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pro neck stem to good to be true
Glynnyboy:
And here's why.....
From Vintage bmx.com
This post also explains why some of the early unstamped Tuf necks square stems carried a decal of what later became the Pro Neck Bulldog.
Heres the text of the sidebar in the December '80 BMXA which asks the same question...
"PRO-NECK AND TUF-NECK: AN IDENTITY CONFLICT
Two identical stems: the Pro-Neck and the Tuf-Neck Pro-Model. They both even use animals with studded collars in their logos. But they are manufactured by totally different companies.
Pretty confusing, hey?
This sidebar is a careful, hopefully objective, short history of how this came to be. Oversimplified, of course.
First there was Bakton Enterprises, the original designer and manufacturer of the original Tuf-Neck stem.
Then came a company called Superbyke which, in addition to its own products, purchased Tuf-Neck stems from Bakton Enterprises and marketed and distributed them.
But SUperbyke's management was not exactly clickin', and the company went down the tubes.
Whereupon one of the investors in Superbyke formed a new company and made arrangements with Bakton to purchase, market, and distribute Tuf-Neck stems. This new company was called Tuf-Neck, Inc.
Are you with us so far? This is where the plot thickens.
All this was cool until the defunct Superbyke company was purchased.
At this point the new owner began marketing and distributing an identical Tuf-Neck stem - not manufactured by Bakton - along with their other products.
This, of course, created a multitude of identity problems what with two companies advertising and distributing identical stems with identical names but manufactured by different companies.
So Tuf-Neck, Inc and Bakton Enterprises changed the design of their stem by radiusing the corners, and changed the name of the stem to Pro-Neck.
At this point the situation was thus: The Pro-Neck was distributed by Tuf-Neck, Inc., and the Tuf-Neck was distributed by Superbyke. Which wouldn't do at all. So Tuf-Neck, Inc. changed its name to Pro-Neck, Inc. and the identity conflict eased somewhat.
Until Superbyke came out with a newer version of the Tuf-Neck - with radiused corners, called the Pro-model Tuf-Neck.
Ah...what terrible tangled webs we weave. - Bob Osborn"
Reading this again myself just made me click about the double add taken out in one of the old bmx actions.
I thought when i 1st saw this, "why would two rival companies take out a joint add :idiot2:"
I realised the add was letting everyone know about the change from tuf neck to pro neck and nothing to do with tuf neck who started to carry the tuf neck tiger :shocked: ;)
markyp:
--- Quote from: Hunterdubber on May 07, 2012, 12:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: markyp on May 04, 2012, 09:52 PM ---should have squared off corners too,if so then its a nice early one,about 1980 ,like this one of mine :daumenhoch:
--- End quote ---
I'm sure Pro necks wern't out till a fair bit later Mark ,,,Pro neck stems weren't being manufactured till after the start Tiger head stamped Tufnecks were manufactured .
So you won't find a square backed Pro neck . well not OG anyway :-\
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id aready covered that christian :crazy2:
hunterdubber:
:angel: :) :-*
I don't mind being put right :D
I know better next time I open my gob :D
glenboy:
they did have the square corner pro neck but hardly any , they were done on the changeover, heres a couple on a thread
http://bmxsociety.com/topic/50176-square-pro-neck/
i have an unstamped square cornered one which has the og bulldog prism decal doesn't say tuf neck on just has the bulldog so not sure if its a tuf neck or pro neck as the bulldog was generally used on the pro necks and the tiger on the the tuff necks :-\
Glynnyboy:
--- Quote from: glenboy ---
i have an unstamped square cornered one which has the og bulldog prism decal doesn't say tuf neck on just has the bulldog so not sure if its a tuf neck or pro neck as the bulldog was generally used on the pro necks and the tiger on the the tuff necks :-\
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The tiger was used by the other company called tuf neck.
The tuf neck company that used the bulldog then changed their name to pro neck and still used the bulldog just as they did when they were tuf neck.
So you have either a tuf neck or a pro neck but from the bob osborn quote we know you don't have a tuf neck (the tuf neck that took on the tiger i mean)
That bob osborn is right my head is starting to ache. :LolLolLolLol:
There's a tuf neck bulldog on the bay at the moment.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-RARE-SURVIVOR-1st-GEN-GOLD-TUF-NECK-SQUARE-CORNER-STEM-OLD-SCHOOL-BMX-/190674833049?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2c651b0e99#ht_6992wt_1396
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