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Advice on best 80's twin top tube for a rider please

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jimwise68:

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--- Quote from: pickle on January 24, 2014, 01:00 PM ---How is a sport or performer twin top tube?
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You just squint a little Rob and put the cemera into "soft focus" mode...... :LolLolLolLol:

Unfortunatley all the pure twin top-tubes like Gen1's and Torkers were a bit twitchy to ride tbh, so we all seem to be advising the same sort of thing here mate :daumenhoch:

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 :LolLolLolLol: the Sport is half twin top tube Rob. S spen said its more about the riding experience so a bit of a compromise on the length of twin tubing.  :angel:

pickle:
Get a street beat then  :daumenhoch:

Gnarlyscoots:
Twin top tubes.

The 280 is the same F+F as the L.P which ran from May 1978 to Aug 1982, they just started calling it a 280 in September of 1982. The 280X is the same F+F as the MX, which ran from some time in 1977 to late 1982, then they started calling it the 280X and changed out the gusset from circle to oblong. I think all four versions have an 18 1/2" TT with some variation on the head tube angles.

I have an L.P and had the MX. I personally find them twitchy to ride due to the headtube and seat mast angles and they are super light too. That's just me though as I prefer to throw my bikes around. I can't comment on the 280 or 280X as I never owned one mate.

You have to remember though, these Torkers are race frames, not freestylers.

I had an '87 Haro Master which I found really heavy when you put the gear on it. Nice cockpit area though and good size.

I have a Kuwahara Exhibitionist and have found it is the best twin top I have ever owned for riding and trying tricks on. It's lightish, good cockpit size, the headtube and seat mast angles are pretty spot on too. Only troublr there is, you will really struggle to find one  :(

I have to agree with the others on a Dp. Terrible bike to ride. High BB and the head angle is too laid back. Very twitchy front end and creates an unmovable cockpit area for adults.

threaders:
Great info on the Torker 280 there. I was under the impression that racing frames made better riders than freestylers, where I got that from, I dont know :-[ but as I was looking at race frames I thought that Torkers were the only twin top tube racers :-\
I was pretty set on a Torker, but now not so sure. I appreciate the good advice so far. I really wanted a twin top tube, but may decide otherwise depending on whats around :)
Would you say that 80's pk rippers are better than the frame sets mentioned above? Sorry about all the questions and thanks for all your comments :daumenhoch:

Gnarlyscoots:
Rippers have a great geometry and great cockpit space. They do make for great riders but I wouldn't want to use one every day, especially if you sit all the time. Use a straight post on one too, not a layback, as the seat clamp area is vulnerable to cracking.

This is the best side shot I have for you to see the Torker geometry. This is an '81 so still an early one. Geometry's changed as the sport progressed so you will need to ask someone with a 280X  :daumenhoch:

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