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Blood boiling fakes
pickle:
Jesus guys, they're only fooking kids bikes remember :daumenhoch:
rodriguez:
--- Quote from: AKGOFF on September 16, 2014, 07:42 AM ---
I got into the hobby in the 1st place when I bought my Son his first BMX in 2008/9 and great memories came back from my youth, subsequently I looked on EBay and the collecting sort of stemmed from there. For me, I loved the chase of hunting down the exotic, really hard to find parts which as we all know generally cost a lot. I genuinely believe repops are hurting the scene and here's a simple example;
I had a pair of VDC Cruiser Monkey bars, 4 sets known to exist. You can email Voris today and he will make you a set to the exact specs of the originals with the addition of a small date stamp. That stamp can easily be ground off and the bars rechromed and hey presto, you've suddenly got an OG set so now there's 5 sets, the more this happens the less 'exclusive' they are and less desirable and so less valuable. I had too much money tied up in my collection to see it dwindle on an almost daily basis. I still have 7 bikes which I'll keep as I love them.
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Fair play on your reasons for becoming involved, reason I asked is there are a lot of people who become involved in BMX because they see an investment opportunity. Any investment opportunity is risky be it stocks and shares, gold or whatever, there's a difference between collecting and speculating.
In my opinion any money you have in BMX should be money that you are prepared to lose. A true collector will keep their collection until it turns to rust or is worthless because they want the item for what it is not what it's worth. If you are worried about how much your stuff is worth then you should havef load it because you have it for the wrong reason.
So you know there are currently there are four sets of bars known and another set turns up and a NOS set of VDC monkey bars turn up are you are not suspicious that they might be doctored repops especially given they are in new chrome so they have been stripped, doctored, prepped and finished. Part of the skill as a collector is spotting the difference and sorting the wheat from the chaff because the genuine item still holds its value.
The scenario you give doesn't prove that the existance of repops, replicas or fakes negatively effects value of the genuine item, it can't because the quantity of the genuine item has not increased. When all is said and done there will still only be four genuine sets of bars known and the people who want a set will pay big money to get them.
oldschoolace:
--- Quote from: griff on September 16, 2014, 10:03 AM ---nice to see everyone getting on ::)
just think - MK was only a month ago
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Was only saying the exact same thing last night to Rich, don't know what going on, on here at the mo :(
Chapperz:
--- Quote from: dancetothedrummersbeat on September 16, 2014, 09:50 AM ---I don't have a problem with repop parts or even the likes of Johnny Chopper making copies/ 'tribute' bikes, as long as they are indentifiable as such. I have repop Hutch cranks, Profile 'anniversary' cranks, Hutch beartraps and Skyway bars on my bikes, and these kinds parts have enabled me and others to build their dream bikes. It's when people try to pass them off as originals - that's when I have an issue with it. Not good "nono"
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I like this statement above, i will buy genuine items (NOS whatever you want to call them) if i can justify it. In many cases i can't justify it so i'll buy repop bits.......does this make me a bad person. I still get to enjoy the build, hobby and ride, but i'm able to do it on a budget.
Oh no does this mean that my Curtis Cruiser is a fake, or is it o.k. because Brian has made it and it's identifiable as such. :LolLolLolLol:
To me its all about keeping it all alive, and if it's done genuinely (like the Curtis Cruisers?) then all well and good in my opinion, i dont know much about the item at the start of this thread....so can't really comment.
I'm not in it to make any money, i'm just in it to enjoy it. :daumenhoch:
Jono:
--- Quote from: griff on September 16, 2014, 10:03 AM ---nice to see everyone getting on ::)
just think - MK was only a month ago
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haha, i know but sometimes its nice to vent your frustrations, without getting personal, one or two negative comments but, easily ignored, Adam,s a good guy with some nice bikes, think a bit of jealousy going on, went out of his way to help me out and in a complete stranger to him :4_17_5: as for repops n fakes, 2 completely different animals, repops are a cheaper option for those who either cant justify price or cant find og, fakes are fraud, and shouldn't be tolerated
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