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stidds:
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--- Quote from: 58 delray on November 04, 2014, 10:52 AM ---cant see a problem with using 70s/80s parts on it, it wasnt an issue when the Haro or GHP frames came out, no one batted an eyelid then.....
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Yes they did Andy, there was discussions all over the place. Maybe not so much on here but Museum, Vintage, Society were awash with threads.
Plus to be honest there is a difference between a run of the mill Haro or GHP and one of the rarest frames in this hobby.
Jono can and should do whatever he wants with his frame, however because of what it is you will always get people that hate that frame.
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i agree with what you are saying about run of the mill v the rarity of the the STR-! but Jono is not trying to pass it off as OG so i dont see a problem with using old parts to keep with the spirit of the frame, but as others have said, its his do do with as he pleases and what ever he does i'm sure it will look sweet :daumenhoch:
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I never said he was trying to pass it off as OG, however somebody has done that with the other one made. Ali is a top bloke and wouldn't do that, I bet however if this one gets sold on in the future, it will sold somewhere down the line as an OG frame (not by Ali).
And I have all the way said he should do what he wants, I was discussing how you would build such a frame because 1970s parts on a 2014 frame seems weird, no matter what that frame spirit is.
I also thought the same thing when I saw people putting old parts on the retro looptail quadangle frames, it looked strange knowing you had this ultra modern frame made with modern materials and with better understanding of metals and welding and then bang on shit parts from 35 years ago.
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sorry mate, maybe that came across wrong, i wasnt saying you said he was trying to pass it off as OG and i know you said he should build it as he wants :daumenhoch:
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:daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
I am however really looking forward to Ali's build of this frame, and if he is going the vintage route I really want to know how much he spends, cause it aint gonna be cheap :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
rodriguez:
The GHP thread on the BMXmuseum was about 50 pages long and Greg Hill contributed to the thread but he was continually flamed by minority of usual suspects to the point he washed his hands of the thread and the OS scene at that point, don't know whether he reconsidered his position later.
I thought this was pretty sad as out of all the companies who have put replicas, reproductions, repops, copies, fakes or whatever you want to call them out there, if anyone had the right to reproduce his own products and make a few quid out of them he did.
Gnarlyscoots:
It's a tough one Ali........
What you going to do?
All 70's parts built as a rep or
a mix of old school parts?
C'mon big boy, spill the beans :D ;D
I know of a few members on here that have put reproduced parts on their old school bikes, including a couple in this thread, and myself. It is easy to make things looked aged, when they are in fact, brand new :) I also know of a few that will swear blind that they are old items too ::)
I don't understand the gripe and I don't understand why people will go on forever about it. It will be photo'd and documented with the pictures being easy accessible on the web and, anyone who would be searching for this particular model would also know that it is not original.
Just don't try and make it something it isn't and the build will come together nicely. It's when you try too hard that it will look out of place :daumenhoch:
58 delray:
am i right in thinking that these JC frames are stamped so that they cant be passed off as OG anyway ?
Bornintheusa:
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--- Quote from: 58 delray on November 04, 2014, 11:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: stidds on November 04, 2014, 10:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: 58 delray on November 04, 2014, 10:52 AM ---cant see a problem with using 70s/80s parts on it, it wasnt an issue when the Haro or GHP frames came out, no one batted an eyelid then.....
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Yes they did Andy, there was discussions all over the place. Maybe not so much on here but Museum, Vintage, Society were awash with threads.
Plus to be honest there is a difference between a run of the mill Haro or GHP and one of the rarest frames in this hobby.
Jono can and should do whatever he wants with his frame, however because of what it is you will always get people that hate that frame.
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i agree with what you are saying about run of the mill v the rarity of the the STR-! but Jono is not trying to pass it off as OG so i dont see a problem with using old parts to keep with the spirit of the frame, but as others have said, its his do do with as he pleases and what ever he does i'm sure it will look sweet :daumenhoch:
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I never said he was trying to pass it off as OG, however somebody has done that with the other one made. Ali is a top bloke and wouldn't do that, I bet however if this one gets sold on in the future, it will sold somewhere down the line as an OG frame (not by Ali).
And I have all the way said he should do what he wants, I was discussing how you would build such a frame because 1970s parts on a 2014 frame seems weird, no matter what that frame spirit is.
I also thought the same thing when I saw people putting old parts on the retro looptail quadangle frames, it looked strange knowing you had this ultra modern frame made with modern materials and with better understanding of metals and welding and then bang on shit parts from 35 years ago.
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Bingo. One day it will be sold as a prototype. It happens every time
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