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Funkyworm:

--- Quote from: pickle on January 22, 2016, 11:45 AM ---Just fook it off as its obviously causing too much heart ache.

Who are all these members who feel the same?

I often vote for a mates build but only because I know what has gone into it rather than just cause he's a mate.

Its like the judging at MK, people spend millions on a build and think it has a devine right to win, then you look at the bike and half the stuff is not original or era correct.  They feel like the place is against them but its not the case.

It would be a shame but maybe best to kill the comp as not everyone can win.

--- End quote ---

It's not for me to name names mate & to be honest i wouldn't know most of their user names on here as I've seen these conversations on Facebook in different groups & threads...

I totally also agree with what you're saying about builds at MK & money spend not giving anyone a right to a (win) as I've sen some builds that have cost loads of money & for my tastes just don't work (it's all subjective).

 One thing is for sure though, there definitely appears to have been a feeling of discontentment within some members of the community when it comes to BOTM / BOTY & a consensus that it's a bit of a closed shop to a degree & not worth bothering with & from what I remember reading on here in recent months entries have been down as were voting numbers , which might bare this out as a fact..... ?

I honestly couldn't care less about it as I'm not in it for prizes or competition, but for those who are I just think it would be a really poor show if any foul play has been taking place, simply because of the time effort & hard earned cash that people in the hobby pour in to their builds & would like a little recognition for..

Personally I hope it all sorts itself out one way or another.






Jono:

--- Quote from: Funkyworm on January 22, 2016, 02:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: pickle on January 22, 2016, 11:45 AM ---Just fook it off as its obviously causing too much heart ache.

Who are all these members who feel the same?

I often vote for a mates build but only because I know what has gone into it rather than just cause he's a mate.

Its like the judging at MK, people spend millions on a build and think it has a devine right to win, then you look at the bike and half the stuff is not original or era correct.  They feel like the place is against them but its not the case.

It would be a shame but maybe best to kill the comp as not everyone can win.

--- End quote ---

It's not for me to name names mate & to be honest i wouldn't know most of their user names on here as I've seen these conversations on Facebook in different groups & threads...

I totally also agree with what you're saying about builds at MK & money spend not giving anyone a right to a (win) as I've sen some builds that have cost loads of money & for my tastes just don't work (it's all subjective).

 One thing is for sure though, there definitely appears to have been a feeling of discontentment within some members of the community when it comes to BOTM / BOTY & a consensus that it's a bit of a closed shop to a degree & not worth bothering with & from what I remember reading on here in recent months entries have been down as were voting numbers , which might bare this out as a fact..... ?

I honestly couldn't care less about it as I'm not in it for prizes or competition, but for those who are I just think it would be a really poor show if any foul play has been taking place, simply because of the time effort & hard earned cash that people in the hobby pour in to their builds & would like a little recognition for..

Personally I hope it all sorts itself out one way or another.

--- End quote ---

I'm sure some bitter people feel this but if you gunna enter you have to expect it's not gunna be to everyone's taste
Personally never felt this way (til this week) I won botm with a copy frameset (not to everyone's taste) and probably sacrilege by others , I'm assuming it was the fact I'd researched and sourced the og parts and I got votes for effort rather than the resulting builds nor have I had conversations or seen such threads about closed shop, I'm hoping what's gone off as a one off and not endemic I'm pretty sure this won't happen again ... Long live RAD

griff:
here's a fun way to learn about the difference between FACTS and OPINIONS



http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/factsopinions.html

In among a few reasonable questions, an awful lot of unsubstantiated bollox has been posted lately (that is a fact :teef: )

adenough:
That's actually an opinion until the facts are published.

griff:

--- Quote from: adenough on January 22, 2016, 03:39 PM ---That's actually an opinion until the facts are published.

--- End quote ---

Not true, I said there are some reasonable questions (we would all like the answers to)

I'm talking about the negative general digs at the forum/admin popping up lately that have no basis in fact

Bit like when you see a fight in a playground, some kid will always want to get in at the end and stick a boot in

Everyone's entitled to an opinion of course, but they should be considerate about expressing them in public - some people are gullible enough to believe anything they read

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