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WARDY:
--- Quote from: crazycraig on January 22, 2016, 03:59 PM ---The facts cannot be proved as there is no way of tracking whats happened .The rad platform cannot save this info but you can look at what info thats here and form an opinion
3 accounts same IP voted
Late night bids
30/40 votes from accounts that have never posted again in the night that put seans bike in the lead
Ridiculous odds on the same person winning so many times
We can only form an opinion from whats above but we wont ever know
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I reckon Batman could find out
WARDY:
--- Quote from: crazycraig on January 22, 2016, 05:00 PM ---I've just got a new suit from George ready for my handover griff . Take plenty notes for me griff and leave your number in case I need you
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Protein shake of the month
Waxintaxin:
I have said to you all that I would look into the accusations and respond
So here goes
As you have all probably realised Sean was accused of cheating on BOTM and BOTY
Not good for the site or for Sean
Lots of screen shots were sent to various people supposedly showing evidence of said cheating
I have looked at all these as well as delving into the sites logs to see if I can cut through the crap and get to some facts
What I can prove is that Seans IP had three active voting accounts which all voted . I have no idea who they voted for but Jo Seans wife confirms that all three accounts voted for Sean
They belong to Sean , his wife Jo and foster Son Declan
both Sean and Jo have stated that each account was used by the owner of that account and unless I had a time machine that could hover above them when they used them I have no evidence either way
There are many theory's based on timings of votes numbers of votes per account but none of that is anything but guesses and speculation as the logs do not show anything other than that these accounts voted and log in times
You decide if this is cheating or ethical because I am not going to either guess or speculate myself
Other accusations revolve around numbers of members who only logged in to vote 30 or 40 have been used as numbers and this is about right
None of these accounts share an IP with Sean and have joined from the beginning of the new site to hours before BOTY
We also have many Members with more that one account based on IP address
So we do know that Seans house has three accounts that voted and both Jo and Sean readily admit that this is the case
We also know that members have voted for Seans bike and some of those members do not post on the forum. However other bikes in the comp also would have had the same type of voting
So either fake accounts have been set up to vote or some people just vote on BOTY and do not post
We also many members with more that one account
Those are the facts I am sure some will draw a conclusion one way or another but in realty nothing else can be proved
For me it is sad that the opportunity to cheat has been allowed to exist and a better way of voting needs to be found and yes I am sorry that the site has been allowed to be compromised by the ability to cheat
however I would suggest that the scale and potential that it is a lot of people doing this exists and that needs to change
As far as the other suggestions we will look at them all in due course and act accordingly
I also think that the mods on here get a rough ride from some members and that also needs to change as it is a two way street .
I am open to PMs and welcome comments but please we have had enough of a slagging and let's keep it RAD
harris:
Spot on Rich
pickle:
Cheers Rich :daumenhoch:
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