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Forum Sales, Site Supporter Tags and how to fund MK....
kalex:
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--- Quote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 06:18 PM ---
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--- Quote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 05:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: griff on February 12, 2016, 05:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 04:50 PM ---
The forum could become free using advertising, they've become so advanced the ads hardly interfere with the enjoyment of the forums, most forums have gone down this route now because of pressure from other platforms that are free to use and you don't have to muck about with subs and the associated administration.
Just food for thought long live the forum and MK :daumenhoch:
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You've put this suggestion forward several times now Paul
if you want the forum to live long, then shifting the platform across to a board that has adverts on will (apart from looking crap in MY opinion) mean that we risk losing loads of members. By far the biggest kick in the bollocks the forum ever got was the crash which caused everyone to have to re-register again. If we combine the increased admin with a 'new' site full of ads then that potentially makes the place less attractive for many people, well myself anyway.
I understand that you haven't been to MK (fine) also note that you don't have a SST (fine too, you're still very welcome to post here). No-one's asking for your money, but I don't understand why you're so passionate about trying to separate the forum from its biggest annual event. My only guess is because you haven't been to MK, then you would see how MK represents everything that's great about this community - not just on the internets but in real life. I strongly recommend that now the dates have been posted that you do whatever you can to attend, like I said before I can guarantee you a very warm welcome and a weekend seeing the best bikes this community has to offer :daumenhoch:
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Well you asked for suggestions and I give a couple.
You've raised the point I don't have an SST again, if I pay for an SST and give the same opinion will you be any less annoyed, I doubt it. I might've chosen not to have one this year but I dare say I've still paid a fair few more than you and a few of the other people who are so keen to criticise my point of view.
We'll have to agree to differ about how forums look that use advertising but I do take your point about the negative impact a forum going down can have.
For me the forum is more important than MK, ultimately I'd like to see a way that both the forum and the MK event can survive and prosper.
If I do make MK you can be sure I'll have paid my SST.
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You're in Ireland aren't you Paul??
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Northern Ireland Dan :daumenhoch:
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Thought so, so quite unlikely you're going to make the trip to MK, so maybe it's resentment that your £10 would go to help pay for an event you're probably not going to attend??
That's what it looks like?
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I've paid my SST since being on here and I've never been to MK due to the fact my wife always books our holiday the same time MK is on. So I disagree with members not paying because they never intend to go.
adenough:
--- Quote from: griff on February 19, 2016, 06:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: adenough on February 19, 2016, 05:26 PM ---Can't the present SST holders receive there wrist bands through the post in advance ( obviously pay for the stamp etc)
This way, you'd only then have to deal with pay on the doors?
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It's not impossible, but we'd have to ask every tag holder to send us their names and addresses etc and deal with the admin. Suppose it depends how much of a pain in the arse that is vs the potential uproar if someone somehow feels cheated?
Personally speaking I'm happy to pay for a tag, I also usually bung something in the jar in the D&D and bring some booze/snacks along for good measure - so paying for a wrist band instead of a jar donation is no skin off my nose.
tbh I don't really fancy posting out ~ 400 wristbands to individual addresses anyway
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Fair enough. How about the SST 'owner' creates his own password, then forwards it to admin. A simple printed off list would be all that was needed, when asked for user ID at MK to collect the wrist band , the password would be asked for to match it to what's on the list. Simples.
griff:
--- Quote from: adenough on February 19, 2016, 06:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: griff on February 19, 2016, 06:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: adenough on February 19, 2016, 05:26 PM ---Can't the present SST holders receive there wrist bands through the post in advance ( obviously pay for the stamp etc)
This way, you'd only then have to deal with pay on the doors?
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It's not impossible, but we'd have to ask every tag holder to send us their names and addresses etc and deal with the admin. Suppose it depends how much of a pain in the arse that is vs the potential uproar if someone somehow feels cheated?
Personally speaking I'm happy to pay for a tag, I also usually bung something in the jar in the D&D and bring some booze/snacks along for good measure - so paying for a wrist band instead of a jar donation is no skin off my nose.
tbh I don't really fancy posting out ~ 400 wristbands to individual addresses anyway
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Fair enough. How about the SST 'owner' creates his own password, then forwards it to admin. A simple printed off list would be all that was needed, when asked for user ID at MK to collect the wrist band , the password would be asked for to match it to what's on the list. Simples.
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I noticed the word 'simple' came up here twice :teef:
Sounds simple in theory, but in practice I can see a few stumbling blocks ( purely based on every single group request I've had anything to do with to date)
First, decide when to make the cut off date (as different people's tags run out at different times) simple, but someone is bound to be miffed if theirs has recently expired
Second, expect 400 people to bother sending a password to the right person (bagsy not me) by whatever deadline you specify using the right method eg pm rather than FB message & not moan when they send it afterwards when the list has already been printed
Third, get a load of grief when someone accosts you at MK saying it's far too complicated
Or...
Get a load of wristbands made up, put them in a bucket & sell them to anyone who wants one on the day,
Put the money in the pot towards MK17
Or...
Do fook all, wait for backlash when someone suspects they've seen a freeloader swipe a can of fosters :teef:
adenough:
--- Quote from: griff on February 19, 2016, 07:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: adenough on February 19, 2016, 06:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: griff on February 19, 2016, 06:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: adenough on February 19, 2016, 05:26 PM ---Can't the present SST holders receive there wrist bands through the post in advance ( obviously pay for the stamp etc)
This way, you'd only then have to deal with pay on the doors?
--- End quote ---
It's not impossible, but we'd have to ask every tag holder to send us their names and addresses etc and deal with the admin. Suppose it depends how much of a pain in the arse that is vs the potential uproar if someone somehow feels cheated?
Personally speaking I'm happy to pay for a tag, I also usually bung something in the jar in the D&D and bring some booze/snacks along for good measure - so paying for a wrist band instead of a jar donation is no skin off my nose.
tbh I don't really fancy posting out ~ 400 wristbands to individual addresses anyway
--- End quote ---
Fair enough. How about the SST 'owner' creates his own password, then forwards it to admin. A simple printed off list would be all that was needed, when asked for user ID at MK to collect the wrist band , the password would be asked for to match it to what's on the list. Simples.
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I noticed the word 'simple' came up here twice :teef:
Sounds simple in theory, but in practice I can see a few stumbling blocks ( purely based on every single group request I've had anything to do with to date)
First, decide when to make the cut off date (as different people's tags run out at different times) simple, but someone is bound to be miffed if theirs has recently expired
Second, expect 400 people to bother sending a password to the right person (bagsy not me) by whatever deadline you specify using the right method eg pm rather than FB message & not moan when they send it afterwards when the list has already been printed
Third, get a load of grief when someone accosts you at MK saying it's far too complicated
Or...
Get a load of wristbands made up, put them in a bucket & sell them to anyone who wants one on the day,
Put the money in the pot towards MK17
Or...
Do fook all, wait for backlash when someone suspects they've seen a freeloader swipe a can of fosters :teef:
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who in their right mind would want to steal a can of Fosters?.... The most pointless lager known to man........ >:D
Retrodan72:
--- Quote from: griff on February 19, 2016, 07:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: adenough on February 19, 2016, 06:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: griff on February 19, 2016, 06:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: adenough on February 19, 2016, 05:26 PM ---Can't the present SST holders receive there wrist bands through the post in advance ( obviously pay for the stamp etc)
This way, you'd only then have to deal with pay on the doors?
--- End quote ---
It's not impossible, but we'd have to ask every tag holder to send us their names and addresses etc and deal with the admin. Suppose it depends how much of a pain in the arse that is vs the potential uproar if someone somehow feels cheated?
Personally speaking I'm happy to pay for a tag, I also usually bung something in the jar in the D&D and bring some booze/snacks along for good measure - so paying for a wrist band instead of a jar donation is no skin off my nose.
tbh I don't really fancy posting out ~ 400 wristbands to individual addresses anyway
--- End quote ---
Fair enough. How about the SST 'owner' creates his own password, then forwards it to admin. A simple printed off list would be all that was needed, when asked for user ID at MK to collect the wrist band , the password would be asked for to match it to what's on the list. Simples.
--- End quote ---
I noticed the word 'simple' came up here twice :teef:
Sounds simple in theory, but in practice I can see a few stumbling blocks ( purely based on every single group request I've had anything to do with to date)
First, decide when to make the cut off date (as different people's tags run out at different times) simple, but someone is bound to be miffed if theirs has recently expired
Second, expect 400 people to bother sending a password to the right person (bagsy not me) by whatever deadline you specify using the right method eg pm rather than FB message & not moan when they send it afterwards when the list has already been printed
Third, get a load of grief when someone accosts you at MK saying it's far too complicated
Or...
Get a load of wristbands made up, put them in a bucket & sell them to anyone who wants one on the day,
Put the money in the pot towards MK17
Or...
Do fook all, wait for backlash when someone suspects they've seen a freeloader swipe a can of fosters :teef:
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I say do fook all John, it's dragging on now, with no easy solution.
MK funding has always been there due to the generosity of the people that care and have a conscience, this won't change, but if there's not enough funds there for next year, then tough, drop the hog roast, don't use the RAD pot to buy ale - ask people to donate beer, give the ramps a miss for a year.
If people want to turn up and have a freebie, without contributing, then they really are proper coonts.
Isn't the most important thing about MK, being together, enjoying each other's bikes and having the craic? Do we really want all the tinsel and trimmings? It's nice to have, but I'd rather have a back to basics event where you guys are part of it too, rather than playing Security Guard/Barman/Wristband Distributer.
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