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A revisionist view of 80s BMX ... What do you think?

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factory pilot:
I can see how the shine has gone from TAs et al for some of you ... I guess when you've been back in the scene over 10 years you've owned or seen most things .... I guess looking for rarity and originality ( nosness to use a phrase ) keeps it fresh ...

For those of us in this hobby for the right reasons - love and passion  ( and I'd say that's 90% of the people I've come across in my short time ) the constant talk of selling up ( however amusing )  of bubbles bursting is not a thing to be feared but a thing to look forward to .. Parts and frames set free so they can be built up and prices plumittung to the point where I could now build a bike for the 2017 price of 401 flights!
But ofcourse that's never going to happen either..

It's funny how things work out .. Imagine if all those Aero Reflexes were as rare as  Holeshot RF-1s or Craig Campbell's  and a warehouse of those 2 frames had been found instead .... ?

It's all relative I guess ...

I love the point someone made " .. And I still can't afford one!"
In many cases that's still true for many us ...
In many ways to have been around in the later years is a blessing of its own ... I can't just go out and build a bike a week. But that's the beauty of it all for me. I love having to save hard, to budget, to search long and hard to find that elusive part, To harass your mates for parts etc, etc
The frustration in many ways makes the end product  so much more worth while ...

OrgasmDonor:

--- Quote from: factory pilot on October 01, 2016, 09:05 AM ---I can see how the shine has gone from TAs et al for some of you ... I guess when you've been back in the scene over 10 years you've owned or seen most things .... I guess looking for rarity and originality ( nosness to use a phrase ) keeps it fresh ...

For those of us in this hobby for the right reasons - love and passion  ( and I'd say that's 90% of the people I've come across in my short time ) the constant talk of selling up ( however amusing )  of bubbles bursting is not a thing to be feared but a thing to look forward to .. Parts and frames set free so they can be built up and prices plumittung to the point where I could now build a bike for the 2017 price of 401 flights!
But ofcourse that's never going to happen either..

It's funny how things work out .. Imagine if all those Aero Reflexes were as rare as  Holeshot RF-1s or Craig Campbell's  and a warehouse of those 2 frames had been found instead .... ?

It's all relative I guess ...

I love the point someone made " .. And I still can't afford one!"
In many cases that's still true for many us ...
In many ways to have been around in the later years is a blessing of its own ... I can't just go out and build a bike a week. But that's the beauty of it all for me. I love having to save hard, to budget, to search long and hard to find that elusive part, To harass your mates for parts etc, etc
The frustration in many ways makes the end product  so much more worth while ...

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Bang on  :daumenhoch:

Waxintaxin:
The first bob replica I saw blew me away
The first nos ripper I saw blew me away
I love old BMX and have owned many bikes , and sold many bikes and because of that the excitement of seeing something you have seen before is diminished
What hasn't diminished is the feeling of riding them , I still feel the same buzz riding around on an old BMX as I did when I first got on one again in the late 90s
I also have a fair bit of non bike old BMX stuff that in itself is probably more historically important than the bikes but overlooked at the moment
It's mad , plenty of nos frames were stripped because they were the wrong colour and decals removed because you didn't comprehend what was to come and nos was available easily ,so attitudes change with the rarity of the parts
I am building again , because I wanted to get back some of the bikes I had sold in the past that I regret letting go
I have three on the go a MK1 supergoose , and aero pro and a quad
So my collecting has gone full circle and I am in collecting my favourite bikes of any make , I will continue to do so and am enjoying it just as much as first time with a real certainty of what collecting means to me and to replace the gaps in my collection
It's rad as fook

McQUEEN:
"its only a t/a" must of come from someone who's got bikes they consider better or more exotic/rare. If you have a t/a and see a burner......

Have you guys seen this thread - http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,188313.msg1892471.html#msg1892471

I've referenced it for two reasons - one, it shows that there's still a lot of inspiration for newer builders out there (whether its stock or otherwise) and two, it shows that there's also still lots of builders aspirational to build bikes to show.  I also really liked this thread because of Jamyz comments on his 'evolution theory' which I really agree with. I find the 'show and shine' a difficult concept to deal with in part.

""Quote from: Jaymz on September 07, 2016, 10:45 AM
I build my bikes around an evolution theory, which gives me a 4 year window around a frame date. Which as a kid If i got a new frame i wouldve used parts from my old frame, therefore theyre earlier and then upgraded after the fact so for an 84 frameset, 82 - 86 parts are fine, and it gives a bike a real look of bitd. It can go horribly wrong, Ive built a couple of complete shitters that in theory worked but looked like wank. But if you get it right they can look mental. I was stopped at MK on more than one occassion to ask if my freestyler was a survivor, thats the biggest compliment I had all weekend""

""Quote from: McQueen on September 07, 2016, 04:18 PM
spot on approach in my mind. I do love a show pony and most of mine are built that way, because now I can afford (within reason, there alot deeper pockets out there) what I couldn't then and I can build what I dreamt about in 84/85. I don't think other than when i got my fist pro star to when i built mt gt pro performer did I have matching tyres!!""

At the moment I'm losing the love for technically overbuilt bikes - who ever remembers a bike bitd with dc grey end caps on their brake spindles?! I'm in the process of building a Trix at the moment and whilst it looks pretty good for me, right now its lacking a 'patina' - it doesn't look 'old' or from 1985. I'm in the process of deciding whether to install an ACS rotor - looks great, era correct, but the bike would never of stopped without a coaster, so I wouldn't of ridden it. I've started adding manufacturers stickers on my builds as well as they look more ridden, or 'owned'.

What I'm saying is that I'm beginning to think builds should look like its been ridden, has a past / history, and I am wondering if that's the way/fashion for building might go. The Haro Sport / Wilkerson rider that Deeman built earlier this year was an excellent, well executed build, but for me it didn't look like a rider rep because everything looked brand new and I could never of believed Ron W ever swung his leg over it. BTW, this is in no way a criticism, Deeman's bike was ace, 10/10, A++, and in my opinion of should have won that months botm because of the hard work and research he put into it.

I have a cherry red GT Pro Performer, Eddie Fiola rep build, and may favourite part of the build is the silver showing through the worn out anodising of the gold dx pedals. When did you last see a build with the metal on the headtube showing where the rear brake cable had rubbed against it for a year or two?? I can't remember who's build it was, I think it was one of KingFunkys, but someone did a SE bike with the rear rim anodising worn off - the front, without a brake, was still there and the bike looked ridden.

But I'm not talking rat bikes or survivours - I'm thinking building with a patina to look ridden.

MartyC:

--- Quote from: McQUEEN on October 02, 2016, 07:39 AM ---But I'm not talking rat bikes or survivors - I'm thinking building with a patina to look ridden.

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So are you saying you are going to build and ride or build to look like it's been ridden?

Seems a bit odd to me but it's whatever floats your boat!

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