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The Execution of old parts ! FBM Guillotine
Midschoolfool:
Well that sorta sucked. I spent about an hour looking for the black headset before I went away on holiday. Was certain it must be downstairs. Looked down there a couple of days back, wasn't there. Unusual for me to "misplace" things being autistic. Any way, I went back up into the loft earlier and had another search. Nothing. In the end I found the top cap, then I realised I must have used it. But where? god only knows. In the end I had to look at every bike I have ffs, then I clocked that the Standard STA had a black headset on. Then I realised that when I removed all of the blue I also removed this.
And hence why I couldn't find it :LolLolLolLol:
But shit, that means I have to buy one because there was no way I was using a blue headset. So I had a play with the blue one, and I managed to get the bearings out. They are sealed, but one came apart. I managed to press that one back together though, so they are out and free.
Then I just needed to make a caustic stew, and.
I now have a silver one. Handy. That's saved me twenty quid !
Midschoolfool:
I had the urge to fit the headset. I don't even know why, but I had a feeling. Good thing I did really. It didn't work. The Eclat fork is tapered and has a built in crown race. Problem is it's tapered for at least three inches. This is probably to make it stronger.
As such the fork was going into the headset and stopping short about 3". It caused a great deal of head scratching. So, I grabbed a regular IHS bearing that goes on a new school bike and sure enough it fits like a glove. Then I was thinking "Well maybe these bearings in the headset are smaller" but that didn't make any sense. I have used new school forks in external headsets time and again. Most recently when I fitted the temporary Lineage fork to my STA. Those went into a external headset no bother.
So, I once again pried the bearing out of the cup. Sure enough, it fitted beautifully. Which was the light bulb moment. It wasn't the bearing jamming it was the ID of the cup. Took a file to the ID, and it only took about a minute to get it to clear. I'm very glad I had this premonition, as otherwise I would have had to deal with all of this bs with a freshly painted frame, getting frustrated and annoyed (never a good thing with a freshly painted frame :LolLolLolLol: ).
The fork now fits beautifully. It also explains why it arrived with me like this.
Take note of the crown race that had been smashed on, but stopped a good 8mm from the bottom. That is because the dumbass who did it (not me :LolLolLolLol: ) thought the fork was knackered and gave up, failing to realise it has a taper and a built in fooking crown race.
There is one more job I need to do to the fork before I strip it. Basically it was missing its top cap. Which is a large, modern threaded one. However, these come in two types. One is twice as long as the other and has a gap in the thread.
That one is made by Jet, and is universal in so much that it fits the first type, and the second. The second type is that, but has no second thread. You cut that off. Issue being that the fork I have has a 10mm unthreaded run, and my Haro Lineage top cap I want to use is the second type. This one.
Which does not reach the thread in the Eclat fork. Fortunately? the fork is about 8mm too long and I do not want to use spacers. As such I will cut the fork down, meaning that I don't have to use spacers and the top cap I have will fit. Some of these top caps are as much as 30 quid FFS. I've tape marked the fork, so at some point tomorrow I will cut it and then hopefully if it's not peeing with rain strip the paint off and see what I actually got, too.
BTW. I usually have all of these issues and more. As such I have pretty much pre built most of the bike now, which is something I wish I had done in the past. See also - me telling you about fitment issues on a freshly painted frame. The only bike I pre built in total before build day after paint was the S&M CW. So, I guess I am finally learning :LolLolLolLol:
Midschoolfool:
No saving that chrome :LolLolLolLol:
People who do that should have their feet beat with a bat :LolLolLolLol:
Gutted. The steerer came up nice too.
Oh well, paint it is.
Midschoolfool:
Right. Mockup V2 is complete. Everything now fits and works lovely.
Front end all buttoned up lovely after I cut the fork down a bit.
Of course I have now had to buy etch primer, so I won't be doing any painting for a week or so.
Didn't like the nuke sprocket. I still had the 24/7 bash though.
Midschoolfool:
Right. Staying on until the weekend. This cold is totally kicking my ass, and I now have a bout of bad IBS. Etch is coming tomorrow, so I may do some work then if I feel a bit better. In the meantime I drew up some graphics for the seat post and fork, and cut them etc.
This is the fork stock in black.
And what I came up with.
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