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Midschoolfool:

--- Quote from: ED209 on January 08, 2022, 11:22 PM ---It's this shit that killed RAD ? not Facebook

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Funny you say that. I never did ask what happened to every one here. I was about to many times, but quite like it as it is. Mostly because I know any one still left here will be in it for the same reasons I am, and thus I am with the right people.

Thankfully for me I don't have to count pennies. Mostly because I don't have kids, nor a partner any more and thus don't have to put any one in front of me any more. Selfish? yeah probably. I'm just far happier on my own. As such everything I spend? is spending cash. I don't see it as an investment. If I clack it? I've left instructions for a local guy I know to come and have what he wants and chuck the rest in a skip.

I also won't pay  stupid prices. TBH? if you are open to anything then you don't need to. For the more sought after items and high end mid school stuff you just need to play the waiting game.

Like many hobbies as soon as you monetise it and make it about pissing the highest you destroy it. That's why I don't play piss the highest games I just get my head down and buy what I want to buy.

There are many reasons I don't like old school stuff. Mostly because it broke, and was crap. However, the main reason I don't have any fond memories is because it was all about posers and spoilt kids. People buying stuff they would never get the use out of but just to show off with. And tbh fella? not much has changed from that perspective in old school BMX. That's why the prices have gone insane. Because it's become all about pissing the highest and with that goes all common sense. And these people bore of things, and they tire of things. Just like when BMX died at the end of the 80s they were all straight on their mountain bikes with crud catchers and all the crap.

Mid school? you could pose all you like. Fact is you didn't really have any one to pose to. So you were in it for the riding and the riding only.

And I enjoyed myself and had the best memories ever during that time. All of the show offs had gotten a Ford Escrote or something and were driving about in earrings with a tart sat next to them. I was dropping off shed roofs and riding down fire escapes.

Then people hit mid life crisis and start going back to their childhood. That's something I don't like to, or want to do. My childhood was as good as my family made it, but it still f*****g sucked balls. And there is no getting around that.

Spen69:

--- Quote from: ED209 on January 08, 2022, 11:22 PM ---It's this shit that killed RAD ? not Facebook

Building an old school bike is OVER. Now mid school has gone the same way.

Those that saw it coming years ago decided that riding BMX was the way to stay in the game ?

If you managed to keep anything then the only way to carry on is trading and selling between your mates. Mates sort each other out.

I wish more ?collectors? would try riding again ? for 10 years I've ran private sessions getting a minority back riding. We've had a great time.

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Ed speaks the truth, the Usual Suspects still meet every two weeks as a bunch of us and sometimes more often than that if there is somewhere to ride.

In the summer we ride a load of skateparks on a day trip in lieu of MK, we ride loads of places indoor and outdoor and we literally take the piss out each other the whole time we meet up but I wouldn't have it any other way. Every one of the riders there are brilliant guys you consider mates, which was my memory of BMX

Some of us are crap, some of us are good and there's a few of the guys who are bloody amazing. But everytime a rider pulls a trick for the first time we all cheer and really encourage each other. Anything from a bunny-hop to a 360, we all cheer each other on, the ramp nights that Ed (and occasionally me!) organise are just a laugh from start to finish.

I loved building all those old school bikes back in 2000 to 2010 but eventually realised I still enjoyed riding BMX and now all I own is an ?85 complete secondhand newschool which I love riding as much as any bike I've owned. It looks rubbish but it rides brilliant  >:D

BMX is not a hobby, it's in your soul, it's in your blood. If you enjoy collecting and polishing, or enjoy riding and falling off, it's all still BMX. I do however feel sorry for you collectors with today's prices though, but it's all good with me  :coolsmiley:

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Midschoolfool:
That's wicked !

I started out on a cheapish new school bike. Then I got the bug... TBH though none of it is really overkill. Just basic Quadrant wheels nothing uber fancy.

I did start riding with a few guys. Two are excellent (Neil and James). Problem is one of the guys had a serious alcohol problem (not either of those) and thus I decided to bail. I'd hung around with an alcoholic as I was growing up to have had enough of it. So my social circle was gone really. I still speak to Neil and James a lot, but I don't go down the Base any more because I didn't want to bump into that guy.

The whole money thing? yeah, that disgusts me tbh. Especially when you see people trying to pass something off that was junk in the 90s. There's a Haro DV8 on Ebay atm. It's bloody awful. Ugly ass POS. Used to call them rails, along with the JAD. They rode like dog shit from being front heavy. Yet someone thinks it's now worth ?400. And it irritates the crap out of me seeing people saying "I know what I have !!" when they have a Haro Zippo or Revo. Yeah, grats dude, you have a hi ten tank that was shit then. Oh hang on though, it has two top tubes, must be good/rare/worth loads surely.

The most I have paid on a single part, IIRC for mid school were those 6pc Strips. That said I got ?30 back as they had been cut, so I paid ?120. That's a bloody lot of money, but they are hard to find and they were pristine. I doubt I would ever repeat that, though.

Mind you when I think about what junk bars from the 80s go for (like those nasty Raleigh twin tube mank piles) I feel like I made out like a bandit. As they often sell for the same as that. Usually I stick to sub ?100 for a frame. Even if they are rare. The thing is? all of the great stuff from the mid school is worth less than the shit (like the Zippo). Mostly because as I said in my post above, people had moved on and were totally clueless about what was going on.

BITD we rode South Bank. That was about as close as it got. And street, lots and lots of street. Brixton bowl was always there, but in the 90s? holy crap. If you made it out alive with the crack epidemic you were lucky, let alone with your bike.

As I said, posers and fair weather people will come and go. It's only the hardcore as you say, with it in their soul who carry on. And they are the people to be around.

Mikku:

--- Quote from: Spen69 on January 10, 2022, 05:55 PM ---BMX is not a hobby, it's in your soul, it's in your blood. If you enjoy collecting and polishing, or enjoy riding and falling off, it's all still BMX.

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This ^^^ exactly!! I've been in it (or rather, it's been in me) for what must be 42 years now and I'm still loving it, even though my daily fix is now largely courtesy of new school race rather than old school. That said, I still have a couple of old school completes, another build waiting in the wings and boxes of parts. Agreed - current prices are ridiculous but that doesn't mean we can't get our fix somehow. Hang in there guys - fook eBay and FB, etc - keep it RAD both figuratively-speaking and from the point of view of keeping this place alive. :radbmxsmilie: :daumenhoch:

Taipan:
I love the fact that people are now actually selling the boxes/wrapping/packets on there own  :shocked: for tidy som's on egay lol also gotta love an advert when the seller uses the box and packaging to advertise the parts then states that there not for sale with the item actually advertised  :daumenhoch:  :2funny:

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