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headset probs
Goose1:
Owen, you're such a plum :LolLolLolLol:
othomas2:
:LolLolLolLol: Cheers goose.
Right I've not had a problem with headsets in the past... just this one seems to be wanting to be replaced ... not as functional as it used to be. It was all fine till I heard a rattle in the forks... it was bugging me a lot. ;D So I pulled the whole bike apart and spent ages shaking the forks untill a little piece rusted metal came out... hurrah... :)
So the problem occured when I tried to put the bike back together. Not a problem. I think I went wrong by not keeping the forks straight enough as I tightened the headset up. And then after doing a little endo in the living room that's gone a fooked up the bearing race.
But anyways... I've pulled the front end apart for the forth time today. And looked in detail how the new bearing race sat in the headset. It kept teetering off of it. But when I turned it upside down it sat on there perfectly. Sooooo, At the moment I have both bearings facing inwards. :2funny: And everything has gone according to plan and is functioning without any unwanted movement.
This is good but now the bottom race isn't the correct way round. I've been thinkin about leaving it unridden as a nice museum piece so perhaps it's time for it to retire ? Or will it be fine to ride it with these changes ?
Or what do you reckon I should do.. ?
Again thanks for your help & time chaps... :daumenhoch:
Plum
bof:
You have to be real careful with these headsets the top bearing goes in the opposite way to a normal headset. Bearings are normally opposed but in this headset they face the same way. Also it is extremely easy to strip the threads in the top cup resulting in you never being able to tighten up your headset. If you have ridden it with a looose headset you may have stripped it.
othomas2:
Cheers for the advice bof. I took it for a spin last night and the headset started to come loose again, so I decided to do what duncan suggested below suggested earlier in the thread.
--- Quote from: duncan on September 30, 2006, 06:20 PM ---Have you tried loose bearings?
Bit messy to assemble, but might let you get extra ones in to stop movement.
If you're careful you can pop them out of the races without bending them, and re-use the race at a later date if this doesn't work.
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--- Quote from: duncan on September 30, 2006, 06:41 PM ---
Put grease in the bearing cups and stick the bearings into it, then carefully slide in the forks.
Watch the bearings don't fall out before you tighten up the headset.
You might be able to tighten down a little more, and/or get a little more spread from the bearings if they're loose, which might take away the movement.
Be careful you don't kink the races though if you remove the bearings (though I spotted you say they're already a bit out-of-shape).
Edit>> I should've added I'm not sure there will be enough bearings from one race when they're loose, there may well be, just you might want to put an extra one or two in - see how it goes.
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It has come good, All tightened up, nice freely moving bars. Couldn't be better. :) Time will tell though :LolLolLolLol: But so far so good.
bof:
You need to make sure you have plenty of bearings in each cup, if you have gone down that route then you must almost fill the cup up with bearings and grease, I would leave space for 2 ball bearings. 1 set of bearings out of a cage will be nowhere near enough, I think you will need at least 2 sets of stripped sets caged bearings to fill a headset cup. Hope this helps cheers
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