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Redline Proline II
GREMLIN:
Ok m8 :)
The decals on the frame and forks look to be original. Well old now tho and falling apart.
I've no history at all on it. Other than i bought it off the bay 2 weeks back. I am going to get in contact with the seller again and see if he can shed some light on it.
The bottom bracket shell has been machined out... G. :daumenhoch:
Tricky:
There seems to be a few variants on the PL II from what I have seen. Mine had the same sticker set and the chain stay, yet the frame number included a letter denoting the year. Think mine is an 82 or 83, cant remember exactly without checking. As for the seat post gusset I have also never seen one of these, need to research this Ratty!
Maybe this is mod Redline did on some of the later PL II to the counter the stress from the well tapered back seat tube section that Redlines were renouned for.....
The welds do look factory, will be interesting to find out about this.
The frame looks in very goodcondition Gremlin, will it polish up?
Frosty:
The seat stay gusset is something that has been discussed a few times over on VBMX, myself and Subwax have similar frames for carrera II's but his has the gusset mine does not.
PL20 models were a five inch headtube, and had machined ends (narrower centre section). Here are some extracts;
Apparently that's an odd one. the frames with that gusset between the seat stays was a 1983 (RC serial) thing (with a little overflow into '84).
maybe someone at the factory grabbed the wrong die for some serials that day...(?)
there were also some redline frames made in Japan '83-85 that had a smaller font, all-numeric serial. speculation is they were using more than one source of manufacture.
gt0733:
Gremlin, the seat stay gusset is an oddity for a Pl. the BB brace suggests post 1982 but before late 1983 when the sticker font was changed (unless the stickers were changed sometime in it's life). the Japanese manufactured frames would have had RA, RB, RC etc which would include the brazed rear drop outs. yours looks heli arc so this would suggest it's an American manufactured frame, hence no letters in the id.
Frosty, mines an RC but hasn't got the seat stay gusset.
trust me, Grem, you will have great difficulty replacing those 3 colour stickers. the ones you see advertised don't have the white in them.
please, please, please don't paint it, no 1981/82/83 prolines were ever painted. chrome only. build her up as a survivor :smitten:
ron burgundy:
--- Quote ---the Japanese manufactured frames would have had RA, RB, RC etc which would include the brazed rear drop outs. yours looks heli arc so this would suggest it's an American manufactured frame, hence no letters in the id.
--- End quote ---
Only the Carrera 1 had brazed dropouts, but I'm with you on the US built frame, although the head tube sticker does suggest it's a Jap built frame, I know they were still building frame only sets towards the end of 82 in the States, but I'm not sure when they moved every thing overseas.
Good stuff, keep it coming :daumenhoch:
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