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gt0733:

--- Quote from: cheekythirtysix on September 14, 2007, 11:04 AM ---Ahhhhh GT... what u on about????
The Redline MXIII frameset was exactly the same as the MXII frameset apart from the oval stamp on the BB... and the early MXII had slightly smaller rear dropouts! So how is one better than the other????? Plus it's unfair to compare a 1980 frameset to a 1985 frameset!!! GT framesets were nice lookin but notorious for breaking easily in my day..... never saw a broken MXII and I hammered mine!!!! lol

John

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John, i'd suggest you get hold of December 1982 BMXA magazine then you will find out "what i'm on about" and you can then remove the "exactly the same" remark from your post  :coolsmiley:
the relevence of comparing a '80 to a '85 frame is asked in the opening post  ;)

Redline:
Ouch GT.... don't be so touchy dude! I can only recall that the MXIII was actually a printing mistake on the decals when production of the frames moved to Japan so in essence the frames were the same, just had incorrect decals that's all!
Don't have copy's of any mags so have to go from memory I'm afraid!

Sorry if I offended you GT

John

gt0733:
not touchy mate, just annoyed when people imply i don't know what i'm talking about on a public forum. anyway i'm over it. for your info John the BB and head tubes were drilled and machined out to shave weight (up to 1/2 a lb per frame) seat tube angle change and slightly longer front triangle. so other than the stickers, there really is a difference between a 1979 mxII and a 1983 mxIII frame.

Redline:
No worries GT!
To be honest I knew about the drilled out tubes mate but I think we'll have to agree to differ on our thoughts as I can't really see the small pieces of metal removed from the BB and headtube equating to nearly half a pound on a frame that weighs 4lb 4oz  ;)

John

DR VINOAH:
with a little help from some digi scales
and a whole load of components ie seat clamps,seats,posts,stems,h bars,hubs etc

i got me senior pro to just a tad over 20lbs including padset and plate

not exactly light as a feather but an improvement on the regular 22 - 24lbs out the crate for bikes bitd for instance

also i cant find the thread where the bmxa lads did the same to compare and built a super light bike like a supergroup

a little like emerson lake n palmer :2funny:

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