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Lacquering a Rat Look Bike / Over Rust. VW dudes?

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d14vd_h:
excellent guys cheers
someone said anchorwax....
as its a low sheen
how low sheen is plasticote??
cheers for the help.

darkersomeday:

--- Quote from: d14vd_h on September 28, 2007, 08:25 PM ---excellent guys cheers
someone said anchorwax....
as its a low sheen
how low sheen is plasticote??
cheers for the help.

--- End quote ---

rattle can laquers are a quick and easy way of doing it but it'll flake off in no time at all and just look a mess, first one i tried was back in 99 on my ng holmes and after a few months you could scrape it off with your fingernail!
plasticote is the best of the bunch though,

closest i've got so far is clear matt powdercoat,
you can see it here on my l.a.f frame,



as you can see its very low sheen, near perfect matte,

its still actually quite fragile as theere isnt much of a "key" in the metal for the coating to adhere to,

the look youre trying to achieve is similar to what i've been looking for for years so "we park our cars in the same garage" :LolLolLolLol:
you can try such as anchorwax but it'll wear off quick with use and it'll fook up your clothes "goodstyle"

also dont worry too much about rustproofing the inside of the bike, if its built right and is dry, once it is fully built you shouldnt really get any water ingress at all :daumenhoch:

is the bike going to be used or is it like an art/show bike? have you thought about leaving it and letting it corrode at a speed you choose?

i've a shit load of idea's for a "rat-look" bike if you want any inspiration lmk!

one of my current projects is a 50's hot-rod styley matte black s&m race bike for a friend, all red wheels and pinstripes! :LolLolLolLol:

d14vd_h:
hey mate this one is pretty far along the rusting process already
its a rat rod bike,
its an early american cruiser interesting frame shape 24'' wheels with chunky tyres etc, basing it on the rockabilly electra modern cruiser.
so we defo park our cars in the same garage!!!

i really want to preserve the original patina of rust and flaked red paint, add some indian motorbike decals etc...

the anchorwax doesnt sound ideal if it rubs off especially on clothes, as it wil be an occassional rider.
that powder finish is perfect, dont know hpw it would take to flaking paint tho and i dont know if have the ability or the bike is able to be dismantled fully for a powder which is an issue
lacquer is out tho,, too much fuss and too high a sheen

would love to see any ideas inspirations youve got fot this type of build tho
cheers
Dave.

few people said theyve mulled the concept over, but im gonna bite the bullet, the bike in question lends itself to it, with the brick red primer red colour flaking.

darkersomeday:
if you cant take the bike apart looking for a full matt plasticote might be your only option,

plus if your powdercoater is anything like the cat i use he'll baulk at the rust :LolLolLolLol:

heres a bike i built that i'd planned to go in that direction, you can see the rust blooming on the bars nicely, i'd intended to mask off and seal certain parts for a while, so the rust would develop at different rates,
also i'd started to polish small areas ready for engraving,(think old school purdey shotgun)
the frame is a full titanium job so NO paint whatsoever was neccesary on it, there hardly any on the whole bike!
i'd have loved to have seen how it "patined" over time,


my idea with the matt clear powdered l.a.f is that the coating will come off in bits as it gets more and more use,
also i'm hoping "rust worms" will develop on it too. when moisture finds a slight crack in the coating and starts to eat at it,

an idea i've been toying with for a while now and if anyone nicks it i'd be gutted but aah fook it,
the same process used for chrome plating is available in copper,
i'm thinking of having the frame done and then chemically ageing it to look like the "verdis gris" you find on old statues,
there was a dude that built a rat-harley and he used 2 old fire extinguishers that had the same "patina"

also, great inspiration can be found by looking at old fooked up medical instruments, like perished natural rubber and stained chrome,

if you want to get your bike to a certain point then all but seal up the finish, there a master powdercoater on here that could tell you idf its possible,
superbikedan

i'll have another search around for sealing products like a dry wax but i've never found anything that didnt come off on clothes,

any pics of this old rocker?!!

have you ever seen the killers van in the film "jeepers creepers"? thats how i want my bike to look right fooking there,

serial killlers bike, all rust and shit and blood, :LolLolLolLol:

d14vd_h:
should have pics of said bike in a week hopefully, ive not yet taken delivery!
will put em straight on here,

i saw a van at newquay that had 'acme customs' on it was rat look and that started my obsession coupled with the old skool style electra cruiser.

speak soon dude

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