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TwoBobRob:
This is what I try and do.....

Stay true to the things that are important to me. Help out my fellow riders wherever I can. Don't get bent over things that ultimately aren't really that important - case in point would be fashion.  Anything fashion driven will ultimately fail. Anything heart and soul driven will ultimately succeed, as long as we remain true to it.

On a more practical level, we could all contribute to a co-operative society and open our own Woodward style camp. And then we teach.

And yeah, I'm bothered   ;)

Bob_Acid:

Edited due to soberness  :crazy2:



Joe, you're asking what can we do? fook knows mate. maybe just being here is enough. The fact that the sport now has a lot more adult support than it ever had has got to have some sort of effect. We're the first generation of adult BMXers i spoze mate. so it's got to be playing a part in the changing of peoples perspectives That said from a personal point of view i could give a fook what everybody else thinks , that's why i did it then and that's why i do it now.

YGT:
Rider owned companies who use that term to sell bikes are purely doing so in a false form of propaganda.
there is nothing i disagree more with than a shody product (compared to other brands) which get a coating of "we are only small" or "we are just a new rider owned company".
Haro originally was rider owned and obviously as he got older it was a company owned by an ex rider (until the stock option split)
Hoffman is rider owned but i would say is more corporate than rider owned, same as eastern (jon byers)
what separates a good company from a bad company is not which rider owns it, but who designs for it along with a good business ethics etc.

WizardWeb:
Didn't Hoffman sell up last year? One of his employees started a distribution company and then Matt sold him the rest of it. Or something like that....

A thought occured whilst watching an MTB programme on Extreme channel earlier. It was covering the Nissan Freestyle MTB championship.

There's a thing I hadn't paid much attention to - freestyle MTB. I've seen MTB riders in skateparks but didn't know they called it that. Anyhoo, these guys are doing Flip Whips, nose picks, front flips, kick turns, Superman seatgrabs and downside whips to name but a few. So if you're a kid, you can do the same tricks on both, are you going to want to ride a BMX or an MTB?

So far as I see, all kids want to be seen as older than they are and they can do the vast majority of tricks on something they won't be labelled a 'kids bike'.

Also most people are, to some degree, lazy which I think is why Flatland (takes too long to learn) and Vert (takes to long to ride to half-pipe) are minority stuff now and everyone does street because it's right outside their front door. So if that's all you can do on an MTB, then for many kids it's a no brainer. The adults will be happier doing it too. I can see it gaining more acceptance with a wider audience. Although it owes a lot to BMX, I think it will definitely affect our sport if it gets any bigger.

Bit of a worry isn't it?  ???

Lazarou:
None of it worries me at all! When there was not a penny in BMX was by far the best time to be a rider.


I hope it dies tomorrow.

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