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The Burner King:
I have just sold these wheels to a new member on here and they were built and trued in a bike shop.

The member has been told by an expert that the spokes are not conventionally crossed and would be compromised with strength. As i understand there is a 3 cross and a 4 cross, I have had a look at other wheels and how they are crossed, and i cant see a lot of difference. Can someone tell me what cross these are from the pictures? I would say they are a four cross.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks Julian

snav69:
Look like 4 cross to me  :daumenhoch:

Hmmmm after looking closer they look more like 3 cross  :)

SaMAlex:
They are 3 cross .... and there aint nothing wrong with 3 cross.
No strength compromise there, they are fine  :daumenhoch:



(maybe 4 cross is a tiny tiny bit stronger, but people use radial lace wheels (0 cross) and they are fine)

The Burner King:

--- Quote from: S&MAlex on April 16, 2008, 09:32 PM ---They are 3 cross .... and there aint nothing wrong with 3 cross.
No strength compromise there, they are fine  :daumenhoch:



(maybe 4 cross is a tiny tiny bit stronger, but people use radial lace wheels (0 cross) and they are fine)

--- End quote ---

Thank you. I have had about 25 sets of wheels done this way.

SaMAlex:
Oh yes, I see. he is right. They are 3 cross, no problem.... but they arent "weaved" through the last lace. The first 2 crosses should go over-over and the last cross should go under (or the other way round).

Some wheels are build like this, its easier to do it, for sure. I dont think it will make a massive difference to the strength, as that comes from keeping the spokes tight.

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