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Found my very first BMX....
Astrodamus:
You guys just proved my point, look at the Ammaco team under it, SAME frame and fork.
As far as the decals go, they are quality, but admittedly, they are not as nice as the originals since, in my opinion, the gold background looks more green than gold to me. So no, they are nothing more than repros and can never be NOS originals.
I can't believe they allowed Ammaco to call those pieces of poo a mongoose, but by then, mongoose had already sold it's soul to the devil.
gregster:
Thanks for all your positive input Astro. Nice one! :idiot2:
theRuler:
--- Quote ---How many old one's do you personally own?
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got an 80, 81 and 82 old gussetted goose
and a cali, supergoose 3, and expert of newer taiwanese type
i'll take pictures of the build quality issues on the old gooses for you
i still really like them though!!! i just like the big chunky gussets
FuNMoNsTeR:
Lots of BMX companies got 'Dirty' toward the end...look at Hutch etc. Lots produced Budget bikes with parts and frames made in the Far East... Just because they are less desirable doesn't mean they are not authentic.
Ammaco and Mongoose were holding hands from years before that bike came on the scene. To fulfill demand for a budget bike market Ammaco/Mongoose produced the wirewheel. Marketed and Sold as a Mongoose, badged as a Mongoose from birth it is a Mongoose... No arguement, quality doesn't come into it.
OR maybe we should all start to persue Mongoose through the courts for mis advertisement? :knuppel2:
ORB:
hell no.
. That bike is a booger-weld piece of trash. Sorry to rain on his parade. I think it's noble of you lot to try and make him feel better. I said he should be mad at his dad, but that was just tongue in cheek.. only joking. He should be glad that his dad bought him what he "thought" was a mongoose.
And if that was sold in 1986, then I could care less about that mongoose era anyway, by then they had "sold their soul", but having said that.. the fact that this copy bike has a gusset was an attempt to copy the previous gusset era.
And I completely disagree with you regarding the quality of welds on old geese versus Calis etc.. How many old one's do you personally own?
I do, however, agree with your sentiment regarding us as kids.. we did not check for baseball symbols and such, and were very happy to have whatever BMX we received. BUT that was then, and now, as adults, some of us are trying to memoralize an era in a historical sense, being true to the integrity of actual history. Likewise, when I was a kid, I never repacked my wheel bearings, but now that I'm an adult, I do. Does that mean I should just let them cake up and harden with dirt just because I didn't maintain my BMX bikes too well as a 12 year old?
If you and him want to pretend that this bike in question is a BMX Products Inc. calibre bike, then more power to ya!
But don't try and gang-tackle me for speaking the truth in all honesty. Facts are ALWAYS good. There has never been a time when facts worsened a situation. Truth brings knowlege and understanding. Falsehoods sometimes make us feel better, and so that's what we are after right? warm fuzzy feelings, or cold truth?
If Akisu stickered frames with JMC decals, (with authorization or not) it would not make them a JMC bicycle.
--- Quote ---You may own the site, but you can't change history
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First up, i may be a site co-owner, but how is that of any importance? I dont class myself as a higher being, I am me, we decided to set up a site, so we did it first, it does not make me higher than any other, this site is ours, not mine daves and bill's, its under ownership of the community.
--- Quote --- That bike is a booger-weld piece of trash.
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BMX Products licenced it and put thier name to it.
--- Quote ---He should be glad that his dad bought him what he "thought" was a mongoose.
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So, the lads who got a Kuwi should be gutted that they had a tange really?
--- Quote ---BUT that was then
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Yip, and thats what most of us are trying to re-create.
--- Quote ---I never repacked my wheel bearings
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I did, my father made me.
--- Quote ---If you and him want to pretend that this bike in question is a BMX Products Inc. calibre bike
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Did not say it was of the same calibre, just that it was, yet BMX products are hardly a yardstick to use when calibre is the word of choice.
--- Quote ---If Akisu stickered frames with JMC decals, (with authorization or not) it would not make them a JMC bicycle.
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No, refer to above post about Kuwa, Raleigh, Hutch, OGK and so on.....
--- Quote ---How many old one's do you personally own?
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Not many at the moment, i swapped most of em out in favour of others, had a bid on one last night but when it went to 15 quid i thought it was a bit too much.
I will agree to dissagree, as long as you will understand that it is a mongoose as much as an ET is a Kuwa
Thanks
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