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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: Chilli Rinse on June 08, 2020, 08:20 PM
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A few bits ordered for the rat... we don't want it looking brand new now do we :LolLolLolLol:
The seat I've got to spare so I'll see how it looks and the dust caps were gifted to me by an eBay seller 👍🏼
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Pedals landed today along with the Skyway EZ bars. The bars are a shade or two lighter but they're on for a test fit and look good. The seat ain't cutting it but will have to do for now "nono"
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Would one of those pink meteor lites work?
https://en-gb.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1102257363493276/
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Would one of those pink meteor lites work?
https://en-gb.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1102257363493276/
Thanks for the tip off 👍🏼 It would be perfect if I was going with the og style saddle. There is a touch of pink on the frame so would work well. I put the original on and decided I'm not a Trick Top fan. I took it off the next day. Something will turn up in time. I've also just blown the last of the build budget on some used Panaracer hp 406 in white. Thanks again, it's good to know Radsters are trying to help out on other people's builds fistblump
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Love the Stormtrooper dustcaps, and even better for being freebies! :daumenhoch:
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Yo. love these MBK's. would love to see a pic of the frame. My mate has still got one of these. was mostly original so know most of the parts...really good geometry for the time :daumenhoch:
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Yo. love these MBK's. would love to see a pic of the frame. My mate has still got one of these. was mostly original so know most of the parts...really good geometry for the time :daumenhoch:
Here you go Damo, this is a pic from the listing. Looking a bit sad :LolLolLolLol:
I'm sure I looked at an old thread about you building one of these but the pics are gone.
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Yo. love these MBK's. would love to see a pic of the frame. My mate has still got one of these. was mostly original so know most of the parts...really good geometry for the time :daumenhoch:
Here you go Damo, this is a pic from the listing. Looking a bit sad :LolLolLolLol:
I'm sure I looked at an old thread about you building one of these but the pics are gone.
Looks cool mate! What are you going to do with it? Those grips won't be too comfy!!
Yea cool story with my mates one, it was advertised on here a good few years ago. was in France. i liked the look of the frame and dibbed it but my mate showed an interest i let him have it as i didn't really need it. It turns out his stepfathers son lived in the same town in France and collected it and brought it over the next time he visited!
The frames are not amazing quality but the geometry is great for an old school ride (19.5 tt iirc) and the standard parts list is not too bad, had an MBK spinner, Anlun stem etc.
his had been sprayed silver so we repainted it baby blue and bought a few new parts with some custom graphics. He ended up repainting it all white and putting 'Adidas' decals on it...looked pretty cool! i like the standard bars on these, would rather have them than the EZ's. we replaced the snakepost with a laback. looked much better! :daumenhoch:
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we replaced the snakepost with a laback. looked much better!
Told ya ::)
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we replaced the snakepost with a laback. looked much better!
Told ya ::)
Yup, it's going but need a 22.6 post. Tried the Odyssey and it wasn't clamping down at all. I think I've found something though :daumenhoch:
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Gonna build as is Damo and use as a shopper ride. The grips have already been cut off, the ones pictured above might work but I found some white a'me grips in my stash. The plate is off too, looks better for it I reckon. I agree on the bars, the Bercy bars are cool. The EZ's look good on it but I do want to tease the og's back into shape eventually. Cool story about your mates bike, it's a small world hey. Mine was bought from France too. I knew the quality wasn't the best but it's solid, straight with no dents cracks and this bike has been very well used. Does a 22.6 seat post ring a bell with you? The 22.2 Odyssey I tried didn't clamp in at all.
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Gonna build as is Damo and use as a shopper ride. The grips have already been cut off, the ones pictured above might work but I found some white a'me grips in my stash. The plate is off too, looks better for it I reckon. I agree on the bars, the Bercy bars are cool. The EZ's look good on it but I do want to tease the og's back into shape eventually. Cool story about your mates bike, it's a small world hey. Mine was bought from France too. I knew the quality wasn't the best but it's solid, straight with no dents cracks and this bike has been very well used. Does a 22.6 seat post ring a bell with you? The 22.2 Odyssey I tried didn't clamp in at all.
i don't remember using a different post , just make a shim from a beer can if it's not quite wide enough, It is possible we did that but i don't recall it...Sorry i can't be of more help!
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Gonna build as is Damo and use as a shopper ride. The grips have already been cut off, the ones pictured above might work but I found some white a'me grips in my stash. The plate is off too, looks better for it I reckon. I agree on the bars, the Bercy bars are cool. The EZ's look good on it but I do want to tease the og's back into shape eventually. Cool story about your mates bike, it's a small world hey. Mine was bought from France too. I knew the quality wasn't the best but it's solid, straight with no dents cracks and this bike has been very well used. Does a 22.6 seat post ring a bell with you? The 22.2 Odyssey I tried didn't clamp in at all.
i don't remember using a different post , just make a shim from a beer can if it's not quite wide enough, It is possible we did that but i don't recall it...Sorry i can't be of more help!
No problem Damo. No beer can needed :LolLolLolLol: I've just bought a cheap Hsin Lung 4130 crmo lay back which is 22.6. Should do the job and look better too. If the few bits I'm waiting on arrive by the weekend I'll be posting some finished pics :daumenhoch:
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Gonna build as is Damo and use as a shopper ride. The grips have already been cut off, the ones pictured above might work but I found some white a'me grips in my stash. The plate is off too, looks better for it I reckon. I agree on the bars, the Bercy bars are cool. The EZ's look good on it but I do want to tease the og's back into shape eventually. Cool story about your mates bike, it's a small world hey. Mine was bought from France too. I knew the quality wasn't the best but it's solid, straight with no dents cracks and this bike has been very well used. Does a 22.6 seat post ring a bell with you? The 22.2 Odyssey I tried didn't clamp in at all.
i don't remember using a different post , just make a shim from a beer can if it's not quite wide enough, It is possible we did that but i don't recall it...Sorry i can't be of more help!
No problem Damo. No beer can needed :LolLolLolLol: I've just bought a cheap Hsin Lung 4130 crmo lay back which is 22.6. Should do the job and look better too. If the few bits I'm waiting on arrive by the weekend I'll be posting some finished pics :daumenhoch:
Those Hsin Lun posts are cool, i have had a couple. they are alot better than cheaper more angular versions. Are you going to change the tyres? A pair of Black or white Kenda K55's would look great on there...
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Those Hsin Lun posts are cool, i have had a couple. they are alot better than cheaper more angular versions. Are you going to change the tyres? A pair of Black or white Kenda K55's would look great on there...
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That's good to know about the post :daumenhoch:
I'm waiting a pair of Panaracer HP406's in white to arrive. They were part of a Tyre bundle. The others are Knarly knobbies I need for another build. Got lucky they were listed together. I did fit some Odyssey Barefeet I have but wasn't happy with the look. If they were white I?d have left them on. Just waiting for a decent saddle to pop up but in the same breath I'm skint Skint
You're a freestyle man so any ideas on what to go with. I've decided against a Trick Top, I'm thinking handler or tioga fs. Something like that. What? say you ??
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Those Hsin Lun posts are cool, i have had a couple. they are alot better than cheaper more angular versions. Are you going to change the tyres? A pair of Black or white Kenda K55's would look great on there...
That's good to know about the post :daumenhoch:
I'm waiting a pair of Panaracer HP406's in white to arrive. They were part of a Tyre bundle. The others are Knarly knobbies I need for another build. Got lucky they were listed together. I did fit some Odyssey Barefeet I have but wasn't happy with the look. If they were white I?d have left them on. Just waiting for a decent saddle to pop up but in the same breath I'm skint Skint
You're a freestyle man so any ideas on what to go with. I've decided against a Trick Top, I'm thinking handler or tioga fs. Something like that. What? say you ??
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Trik top was stock equipment and not to everyone's taste including mine! Handler's are disgusting . forget those...i would defo go with a Tioga Fs or a Dominator, or a Viscount Dyna...All would look good and be era correct :daumenhoch:
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Think Damo's right, a Dominator would probably suit her well, grey or white maybe :-\.
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Thanks for some solid and sensible choices there guys. It will be one of the mentioned for sure, when funding is available :LolLolLolLol: Defo gonna be grey or white too. White A'me grips went on this evening after work. Seat post ,tyres and front brake holding me up now. EZ decals on or off chaps ??
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Thanks for some solid and sensible choices there guys. It will be one of the mentioned for sure, when funding is available :LolLolLolLol: Defo gonna be grey or white too. White A'me grips went on this evening after work. Seat post ,tyres and front brake holding me up now. EZ decals on or off chaps ??
just use the original bars then you won't have the dilemma! Doesn't matter if the decals are on or off, everyone knows what they are...
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Quick update...
Come home from work to find the Lee Chi brake, Panaracer tyres and HL seat post had arrived. Tyres on, post in ( forgot to swap out the guts for cleaner silver for the gold) Rear spindle swapped out for front on the brake and readied for pots mod. I'm thinking I now need to use a new front cable and swap out the front and rear outers ffs :tickedoff:
... and yes, the lay back looks so much better than the snake 🐍
I'll hopefully have some pics up at the weekend :daumenhoch:
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Looking forward to the pics. Did have to chuckle, reading "I'm thinking I now need to use a new front cable and swap out the front and rear outers ffs"
It never ends :LolLolLolLol:
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Looking forward to the pics. Did have to chuckle, reading "I'm thinking I now need to use a new front cable and swap out the front and rear outers ffs"
It never ends :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: Yup, these ?it won't take much to get this finished? projects always have other ideas. I didn't want to mess with the cables "nono"
I fear the rear will put up a fight when it's frayed end needs to be fed in the replacement outer. That's if the grey one I have has enough length to do the job. I've also noticed that the levers have more sag than an 80 year olds scrotum :nuts:
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I dunno what it is with brake setups but they are often the bane of a build in my experience ::)
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I dunno what it is with brake setups but they are often the bane of a build in my experience ::)
I've been lucky so far tbh. This time I knew being a freestyle virgin I didn't want to mess with the rotor set up if at all possible. I suppose if I do I may as well strip, clean and grease the head set whilst it's all disconnected :chin:
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Nearly done :LolLolLolLol:
The chain was the first little job this evening. The one that came on the bike was half the og and half a newer chain and had seen better days. I had a silver Izumi gifted to me from the same bloke that gave me the cool stormtrooper dust caps. I?d tried to use it on my a Procraft Ultima build but it was a link or two short. It was the perfect length for the Bercy so on it went.
Cables next :crybaby: I decided to replace the front inner and outer and the rear inner and outer from the lever to the rotor only. I had some grey Dia-Compe BMX cables hanging around, not a perfect match for the rotor to rear brake section being saved but they will do. So I used the rear for the front pots mod set up and the front for the rear lever to rotor run. Whilst the cables were off I had to reposition the stationary cable holder to the right of the headstock, as per MBK advert. Whether this is correct or not I don't know but it looks better and seems to work better too. The cable adjuster on the rotor was bent so I straightened it the best I could to avoid cable rub on the shoulder of the stem. I didn't clean and grease the headset as planned because it didn't seem to need it. So I though this will get finished tonight, wrong! I opened my packs of new white skyway brake pads and set about fitting. They looked shite tbh, too long and a horrible fit with all those rounded adjusting washers taking up too much space. I tried a few different arrangements before pulling them off repacking and thinking f**k that, I'll get those cheap white Fibrax pads on fleabay for this old girl.
I swapped out the rough gold seat guts for some cleaner silver guts that came with the seat I'm using for now. By the way, what do you guys think of the Velo Gripper seats? Another possibility to suit the Bercy perhaps ?? Not having much luck finding a seat right now.
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Just no to the gripper, they are minging!! A dominator shouldn't be too hard to find.....If you are riding the bike clear sticky pads will work best on the mags, i think i have a set i would be willing to donate if you need them? they are brand new and unused..... :daumenhoch:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Viscount-Dominator-2166-BMX-Seat-White-Blue-Suit-Old-School-Freestyle/222490828576?hash=item33cd7c9f20:g:~ykAAOSwWH1cDIXV
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Just no to the gripper, they are minging!! A dominator shouldn't be too hard to find.....If you are riding the bike clear sticky pads will work best on the mags, i think i have a set i would be willing to donate if you need them? they are brand new and unused..... :daumenhoch:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Viscount-Dominator-2166-BMX-Seat-White-Blue-Suit-Old-School-Freestyle/222490828576?hash=item33cd7c9f20:g:~ykAAOSwWH1cDIXV
I have one of those new dominators and as minging as the gripper may be in Damo's eyes lol.... I need a survivor seat for a survivor build as it happens so could possibly trade with you if you are interested Toby ?
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True rad spirit right there from Damo & John :4_17_5: :smitten:
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True rad spirit ride there from Damo & John :4_17_5: :smitten:
Yup, top blokes. Will be in touch soon guys fistblump
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I've got pics guys but I cannot upload them. Tapatalk won't let me login to Rad and the pics are being rotated when I try to upload direct to site from my phone. I'll try again tomorrow 👍🏼
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Here we go, all done with only the brake blocks to go. Hopefully you can zoom on the tiled images. Spec coming soon 👍🏼
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Was bought all og except tyres, front brake & pedals... Removed the og plate and bent MBK Bercy bars. Swapped out seat, seat post, tyres & tubes, grips, brake blocks (tbc), pedals, cable outers and front cable. Not a full blown resto, more of a clean and tidy up I guess.
1987 Bercy Masters F&F og Paint & Decals No2876 of 3000 Limited Edition (I think)
Skyway EZ Bars 80's Nos
A'me Round Cam Grips New
Anlun Stem og
MBK Rotor og
Lee Chi Rear Brake og
Lee chi Front Brake 80's Used
Lee Chi Tech 4 Levers og
Dia-Compe BMX Cables Used & og from Rotor to Rear Brake
Simplex Mags og
Panaracer HP406 Tyres Used
Panaracer Tubes Used
Stormtrooper Dust Caps (gifted to me)
MBK Crank og
MBK Power Disc og
MBK Chainring 42t og
MKS Grafight 2000 Pedals 80's Nos
Izumi Chain Used (gifted to me)
Atom Freewheel 16t og
Hsin Lung Seat Post 80's Used
Small Hard Shell BMX Seat Used 80's ?
Suntour Copy Seat Clamp og
Will work on getting decent single pics up soon 👍🏼
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Looks cool as Hell Toby, i like how original it has been kept down to the Anlun stem (one of the best stock parts!) :daumenhoch:
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Wow, cleaned up nicely & turned out really well. Total 80's vibe captured :bow:.
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Cool :daumenhoch:
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Looks cool as Hell Toby, i like how original it has been kept down to the Anlun stem (one of the best stock parts!) :daumenhoch:
Cheers Damo, yeah that stem is a nice bit if kit. I wasn't sure about the pedals but I think they look better than the og Unions. The grips were as close as I could get without shelling out 30 quid for A'me duals.
Question... Does the rear cable run to the rotor look ok ? It was crossing over the front when I got her, I didn't think it was necessary. PM from me soon 're the blocks.
Wow, cleaned up nicely & turned out really well. Total 80's vibe captured :bow:.
Cheers Pete, she screamed 80's to me and apart from budget that was a big part of my decision to buy. She was an easy project to pop my freestyle cherry on. Maybe she won't be my last either.
Cool :daumenhoch:
Cheers John, I think she still has a bit of cool appeal too :LolLolLolLol: well chuffed with how she turned out.
PM from me soon about the seat, I haven't got a gripper though, it's a crusty trick top or the one in the finished pics. I do have something else in faded red too.
Thanks for your kind words guys, as well as your opinions during the build and advice.
Radsters rock explosion
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I just bought a white freestyle seat dated 87... Damo, you are going to hate it :LolLolLolLol: the bike is a little quirky so I got a seat to match. Pic to follow when received and fitted.
John... if you're interested in any of the seats mentioned pm me, you can take your pick fistblump
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Spiked my interest, I thought the current one suits it well
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I just bought a white freestyle seat dated 87... Damo, you are going to hate it :LolLolLolLol: the bike is a little quirky so I got a seat to match. Pic to follow when received and fitted.
John... if you're interested in any of the seats mentioned pm me, you can take your pick fistblump
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John... if you're interested in any of the seats mentioned pm me, you can take your pick fistblump
Lol mate, how many is that now ? ;D
Shoot me a PM with some pics Toby fistblump 8)
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That's lovely mate :smitten:
I have got original set of tyres dated 86 (guy on eBay won item but never paid)
If you're interested fistblump
(https://i.ibb.co/VHyRd86/C6771-D60-A67-E-4483-B0-DB-6-E03-A7-DC7262.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GswyXjm)
(https://i.ibb.co/V36yJVZ/8-DB15-B72-8507-402-E-9285-E565-D2-EA9462.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0Q5NmqS)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254624029472
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Spiked my interest, I thought the current one suits it well
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It looks better than I thought it would Pete, and I think that's down to it being a smaller than standard seat, maybe ??
I think she deserves a proper freestyle seat though.
I just bought a white freestyle seat dated 87... Damo, you are going to hate it :LolLolLolLol: the bike is a little quirky so I got a seat to match. Pic to follow when received and fitted.
John... if you're interested in any of the seats mentioned pm me, you can take your pick fistblump
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Damo, don't hate me but she's getting a white Kashi Handler :LolLolLolLol: it's an 87 nos with marks and a bit yellowed. It was cheaper than a repop too because the seller slashed about a score off of the price, I couldn't resist. I personally think it'll work and love or hate them, time will tell.
John... if you're interested in any of the seats mentioned pm me, you can take your pick fistblump
Lol mate, how many is that now ? ;D
Shoot me a PM with some pics Toby fistblump 8)
:LolLolLolLol: John, 3 on offer unless the Handler looks total gash like Damo reckons. Then the one fitted in the pics will stay :idiot2: I don't think I can attach pics to pm's. Send me your email or mobile if you're on WhatsApp and I'll get the pics to you soon.
That's lovely mate :smitten:
I have got original set of tyres dated 86 (guy on eBay won item but never paid)
If you're interested fistblump
(https://i.ibb.co/VHyRd86/C6771-D60-A67-E-4483-B0-DB-6-E03-A7-DC7262.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GswyXjm)
(https://i.ibb.co/V36yJVZ/8-DB15-B72-8507-402-E-9285-E565-D2-EA9462.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0Q5NmqS)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254624029472
Cheers Ady, she is now one of my faves :daumenhoch: Thanks for the offer on the rubber, they're gorgeous but this build came in over budget and I can't spend any more :LolLolLolLol: I'm thinking about another freestyle build soon and that too should have white tyres so you might be hearing from me soon 👍🏼
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Is it only me that thinks Ady's tyre pics look like a sad face :LolLolLolLol:
I'll get me coat.... :-\ :-[
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That's lovely mate :smitten:
I have got original set of tyres dated 86 (guy on eBay won item but never paid)
If you're interested fistblump
(https://i.ibb.co/VHyRd86/C6771-D60-A67-E-4483-B0-DB-6-E03-A7-DC7262.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GswyXjm)
(https://i.ibb.co/V36yJVZ/8-DB15-B72-8507-402-E-9285-E565-D2-EA9462.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0Q5NmqS)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254624029472
PM sent 👍🏼