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Events => Old School Series Racing => Topic started by: Haro82 on October 22, 2009, 02:28 PM
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I't mentions at the Brits, but surely as this is a regional qualification event it means at region level as well ? :-\
http://www.bmxtalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25418
Not too sure about the following comment : -
"Old Skool will be dropped as a competitive class due to a mixed response from regions. The format was more successful in previous years when it was run as a charity event"
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It's a real shame that Old School can draw a class the size that it did at the Brits and still be kicked out but i think this is more because of low attendance in some regions. A real shame when one of those regions is re forming an old school committee to try and gee up support. I dont think BC really appreciate what old school has brought to the sport in terms of returning riders and the new kids they bring in but if that's what has been decided then thats the way it is :'(
In all honesty in the South i can see a return to the Home of Old School that is Hersden for our series, always draws a nice crowd and good fun every time :daumenhoch:
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:( Screw the Feds.OS will always be welcome at RVR. :daumenhoch:
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I think it is more the case of some people just don't like it. I don't see many people entering 9-12 year old cruiser class (for instance) at regionals but they have not dropped that. There was someone at that meeting that just does not agree with OS racing. Deffo.
A little bit short sighted though I think. How many people have raced old school to get back into it, moved up into other catagories and brought along their kids to race etc..
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it sounds like its just the brits, and it may be due to peeps complaining about peeps switchin to o/s for the brits for the glory n then goin back to their usual classes. just a thought
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it sounds like its just the brits, and it may be due to peeps complaining about peeps switchin to o/s for the brits for the glory n then goin back to their usual classes. just a thought
You talkin about me :LolLolLolLol:
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THEY AINT BEEN UP NORTH THEN
THE BIGGEST CLASS BY FAR AND WITH A BIT OF ENCOURAGMENT SURE OTHER REGIONS WILL START TO GET MORE RIDERS,,,HELL ROTHERHAM FOR 1 IS CLOSER TO US NORTH EAST LOT THAN PRESTON/COPPULL AND CREWE SO I THINK A BIT OF INTER REGION NEGOTIATIONS ARE IN ORDER HERE,,,,LIKE HAVE PROPER TRIPS TO MIDLAND RACES OR DO THE MIDLANDS IF NORTH AINT ON OR WHAT THE HELL TRAVEL SOUTH AND GET A SLICE OF NIKKI,S PIE
WE CANT LET THIS HAPPEN REALLY AS ITS TAKEN OFF BIG STYLE UP HERE,,,, A YEAR AGO I WAS AT THE TOP BUT AS RIDERS HAVE COME ON SO MUCH I CAN NOW SAY THERE IS AT LEAT 2 GATES AS FAST AS ME,,NOT SAYING IM THAT FAST LIKE,,BUT ALL THE RIDERS HAVE COME ON SO MUCH AND THE OLD SCHOOL CLASS IS BY FAR THE MOST ENTERTAINING TO WATCH,EVERYONE LOOKS FORWARD TO IT
I REALLY THINK IT IS TIME NOW TO TRY ALL OUR BEST TO SUPPORT THE OTHER REGIONS ,,,HAVE ROAD TRIPS DOWN SOUTH FOR A START,,I CAN GET 3 IN MY CAR ,SO IF HALF A DOZEN CARS GO WITH 3 RIDERS IN EACH THERES 2 FULL GATES AND MORE PLUS IT WILL BE RACING NEW BLOOD,,,IT WAS BRILL THAT TIME AT CREW WHEN CROUCH,GLEN AND PAUL CAME UP WAS A REET LAFF
THERES MY TEN PENITH WAT YE SAY LADS N LASSES
OH YEH JUST BEEN FOR A HEART SCAN AND ITS REALLY GOOD NEWS ,,,NO PROBS WITH IT SO WITH THE MEDICATION I AM NOW ON I WILL BE BACK ON GATE SOON
RUSS
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There was someone at that meeting that just does not agree with OS racing. Deffo.
A little bit short sighted though I think. How many people have raced old school to get back into it, moved up into other catagories and brought along their kids to race etc..
Hammer, nail and head comes to mind :daumenhoch:
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it sounds like its just the brits, and it may be due to peeps complaining about peeps switchin to o/s for the brits for the glory n then goin back to their usual classes. just a thought
You talkin about me :LolLolLolLol:
Yep :LolLolLolLol:
Sounds like they will be ok with a charity OS race so could be worst!
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it sounds like its just the brits, and it may be due to peeps complaining about peeps switchin to o/s for the brits for the glory n then goin back to their usual classes. just a thought
You talkin about me :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: no dude, absolutely not, and also, it doesnt bother me in the least, the non mixin of motos at every meet bothers me more than anything else, bcs are gettin registration money n licence money and the riders are not getting a true indication of competence at the end of the season due to non random gates, i have been in motos that were far better stacked than the resulting A finals, so i just turn up n enjoy it now and gauge my own progression, after feeling fleeced :LolLolLolLol:
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I think they should keep OS in the Brits even if the regions (e.g. South and EA) don't have enough OS riders to make a class at regionals.
There'll still be people who want to race 2 classes at the Brits (i.e. old school and cruiser).
Though they now have a 40+ 20" class, so even if they did have old school at the Brits next year I would probably do that instead of old school.
Those of you who want old school at the Brits should contact BCF and lodge your disapproval. After all, the decision to drop OS was made by the unelected Commission, not by riders. Almost 30 riders competed at the Brits this year.
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it sounds like its just the brits, and it may be due to peeps complaining about peeps switchin to o/s for the brits for the glory n then goin back to their usual classes. just a thought
You talkin about me :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: no dude, absolutely not, and also, it doesnt bother me in the least, the non mixin of motos at every meet bothers me more than anything else, bcs are gettin registration money n licence money and the riders are not getting a true indication of competence at the end of the season due to non random gates, i have been in motos that were far better stacked than the resulting A finals, so i just turn up n enjoy it now and gauge my own progression, after feeling fleeced :LolLolLolLol:
The Ladies at Preston were hoping to get the computer sorted soon so that they can do the registration on computer. So that means Random gates will be back. At the moment they have the PC but no one knows how to do it!! :daumenhoch:
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it sounds like its just the brits, and it may be due to peeps complaining about peeps switchin to o/s for the brits for the glory n then goin back to their usual classes. just a thought
You talkin about me :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: no dude, absolutely not, and also, it doesnt bother me in the least, the non mixin of motos at every meet bothers me more than anything else, bcs are gettin registration money n licence money and the riders are not getting a true indication of competence at the end of the season due to non random gates, i have been in motos that were far better stacked than the resulting A finals, so i just turn up n enjoy it now and gauge my own progression, after feeling fleeced :LolLolLolLol:
The Ladies at Preston were hoping to get the computer sorted soon so that they can do the registration on computer. So that means Random gates will be back. At the moment they have the PC but no one knows how to do it!! :daumenhoch:
cool :daumenhoch:, i take it aaaaaall back :angel:
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Daz, I know its shite to be in a stacked moto!!
When I started OS every moto was stacked!! :LolLolLolLol:
I just had a rant on BMX talk!!
http://www.bmxtalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=214598#p214598
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Good reply Ian, thanks for the mention :yahoo_silent:
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Daz, I know its shite to be in a stacked moto!!
When I started OS every moto was stacked!! :LolLolLolLol:
I just had a rant on BMX talk!!
http://www.bmxtalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=214598#p214598
nicely put :daumenhoch:
the stacked motos thing, is more in regards to putting off new riders, the new lads at preston had a mixed bag and rode well, hats off to em, but unmixed motos could have easily intimidatted riders into not venturing out again.
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Good reply Ian, thanks for the mention :yahoo_silent:
No worries!! :D
I agree Daz!! But its the same for other classes too. For back markers in a stacked class can be quite soul destroying. For Middle order riders its annoying as they know they can never get to the A final. For Top riders it must be bad too. If your stuck with creme de la creme and you come 5th every time and the other motos have less talent then the final can be made up of the best 4 riders and 4 middle order riders. With some top riders missing out!!
Hopefully they will sort it soon!! :daumenhoch:
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Good reply Ian, thanks for the mention :yahoo_silent:
No worries!! :D
I agree Daz!! But its the same for other classes too. For back markers in a stacked class can be quite soul destroying. For Middle order riders its annoying as they know they can never get to the A final. For Top riders it must be bad too. If your stuck with creme de la creme and you come 5th every time and the other motos have less talent then the final can be made up of the best 4 riders and 4 middle order riders. With some top riders missing out!!
Hopefully they will sort it soon!! :daumenhoch:
who cares about other classes? :LolLolLolLol:
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Nice to see the BC asking its members what they want at the brits :tickedoff:
As with most committee’s foook what the members want lets do what we want............ :Aresehole:
So they drop old school as a competitive class at the brits…does that mean we will still have to pay our Gold “Blood Money” membership to race regonals…. Just so people can compete in an “exhibition race” but lets call it a charity race
Tell you what if you want charity then for every regional O/S race all the money that was supposed to go into the BCF pocket (for doing F all for grass roots BMX) why not give that to charity as well……..
In others words is the BCF going to laugh at the old schoolers as they dry but fook us
:rant:
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Nice rant PJ!! :daumenhoch:
But I HOPE most of the race fees go into region coffers!!
There were 18 riders at this years brits and all 18 had to qualify (5 races)!!
How many riders were there in the previous Brits Charity races?
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20
http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/web/site/BC/Bridge/calendar_results.asp?evt_cp=2&evt_mode=2&evt_id=%7B17F2C1F2-860B-4A8E-9F49-B2DC92E07228%7D&evt_seriesid=&evt_myevents=No&RefID=&RefType=&evt_year=2008&evt_month=Any&evt_kw=&evt_regions=All+Regions&evt_disc=BMX&evt_class=&evt_cat=&evt_series=&evt_resultspp=40
If it's not recognized then I'm sure it will be like a novice class and all the race fees go to the club running the race I think.
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What peee's me off Ian is there are people (such as yourself) who put in tonnes of effort in to make the O/S series what it is........well attended and exciting to watch, after all most of the dads that take there kids to race are our age so they can appreciate what were doing.....
Then you get these, well for the sake of not wanting to offend I'll refer to them as lady's front bum's....make a ruling without consulting the people who are living and breathing o/s racing....
I don't normally get pee'd off by things like this, but when people's hard work is just pissed all over by a bunch of MTB/Road Racing/Velodrome committee members who at there hearts really see BMX as an exhibition sport...............I winds me up
An old saying....committee's take minutes...........and waste hours
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http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/web/site/BC/Bridge/calendar_results.asp?evt_cp=2&evt_mode=2&evt_id=%7B17F2C1F2-860B-4A8E-9F49-B2DC92E07228%7D&evt_seriesid=&evt_myevents=No&RefID=&RefType=&evt_year=2008&evt_month=Any&evt_kw=&evt_regions=All+Regions&evt_disc=BMX&evt_class=&evt_cat=&evt_series=&evt_resultspp=40
If it's not recognized then I'm sure it will be like a novice class and all the race fees go to the club running the race I think.
I would love that at least the funds would go to where they are needed...............but can anyone see the BCF giving their funds over to the local clubs :LolLolLolLol:
That would be like...putting the money where its needed...and that would be daft :uglystupid2:
NOT
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I just had another rant!!! :D
http://www.bmxtalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=214608#p214608
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Liked your last line Moley...hummmm wait for the responces :daumenhoch:
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:LolLolLolLol:
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Daz, I know its shite to be in a stacked moto!!
When I started OS every moto was stacked!! :LolLolLolLol:
I just had a rant on BMX talk!!
http://www.bmxtalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=214598#p214598
Ian,
Thanks for putting the O/S perspective across so diplomatically and explaining some of the southern problems, i don't think i could have been so diplomatic TBH
What really annoys me is that the class has been dropped because some people in the south have got the hump when the shit has been stirred. At the end of the day the O/S in the south paid full expert race fees for winter and summer series before with absolutely no friggin trophy or reward from the region and it gets dumped :rant:
We appreciate your support of Tony, we certainly have had some shit times and it's taken us longer to recover as a family financially than we ever thought which is largely what has held us back but NO MORE, despite Tone being redundant we're gonna bloody fight this.
Braintree Winter Regional this weekend, hope some of you can join us and make sure that even if we race 30+ we make our presence felt :daumenhoch: Anyone that needs a lift/can offer one please get in touch, lets stand tall and proud and bring back Old School in the South and East Anglia >:D
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BC disapproval well & truely lodged........right where the sun will definately not shine. This is another perfect example of what happens when the people who participate in the sport have very little representaion in it's development. I'd be intrigued as to how many ex racers/organisers are actually involved in the decisions of OUR sport.
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I feel as though BCF have mugged us,
they were very aware of all the work that was put into getting the OS a recognized class.
They allowed us to in only to insist we had silver licenses, but also didn't want to supply us with plates or trophies, Talk about cake and eat it!!!
The old school brought so much new blood into the sport, much needed blood as well.
I just don't understand why BCF have taken this decision, what do BCF have against us?
The old school brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to our sport.
The OS have also taken to helping out trackside, indeed one track in the south have had 3 committee chairmen in a row who have come back to the sport via old school.
The south has taken a knock after I got ill and the organizers fell out.
But there is still a large old school following not just in the south but also in other regions.
To deny the OS the chance to race is a very badly thought out move.
I urge BCF to rethink this decision, it could be very damaging to our sport, not just in the short term as well, the old schoolers children make up a chunk of the new talent emerging from the sport.
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Tony spot on bud :daumenhoch:
But I for one beleve that the BCF will never listen to the people involved in O/S racing or who people care about o/s..........all they'll want to do is take our money and shaft us
I hope they proove me wrong............I'd be a happy man
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I've just had another rant on BMX Talk!! :D
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Go on Molster......... :daumenhoch:
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Ian,
On the post on talk............... I love you
Stand up for O/S
I just love you, end of :4_17_5:
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When I had to almost sell my soul to the BCF to be able to race oldschool this year Mr L... (cant remember his name, but Mr Wilbrahams gaffer) he told me that old school would be dropped after this year (at the Brits) as numbers were dwindling and not worth running with.
pity really seeing as the North is certainly growing in numbers
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I was talking to Roger Wilbraham at the Brits and he said he was dropping the O/S from the Brits then ???
he's deffo not a lover of it ,, I don't think he feels the love for it :idiot2:
Does this mean It goes back to how it was in 2007 , just a licence and no silver membership ;)
I bet they still want paying for that ;D
Don't want owt to do with it on one hand ,,, but hang on a minute you can contribute to all the other trophies and the big event
One of his comments actually was " the more flaming classes we have it's more trophies to give out "
:wtf: How much is a poxy trophy about a fifth of the price to pay to race at the Brits ;D
Their loss hopefully ,
North region ,MK and a couple of inter regionals will do just dandy for me
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The main point is.....
If your paying your FULL Regional race fees and have to buy the Silver BCF Membership (just like everyone else) then you should be allowed to race at the Brits.
OS generates as much dosh as any other class (infact probably one of the top earners) in the North and Scottish region and we're shafted by BCF.
They say it was not as successful as the previous Charity races which is bullshit. For the previous Charity Races you didn't have to qualify for it (I think) and the turnout was only 2 riders down on the previous year and all riders had to race at least 5 regionals which in turn generates money.
I wonder just how much money BCF make out of regionals? ???
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So with no Brits final will the BCF make the O/S series a novice class ?
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So with no Brits final will the BCF make the O/S series a novice class ?
Not too sure about that because there are rules about how long you can stay a novice for, i.e. so many wins then you move up to expert. It would have to be an 'exhibition' race that each club would have to agree to put on , a bit like at the circus when they bring on the clowns to entertain everyone in the interval ;)
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..........a bit like at the circus when they bring on the clowns to entertain everyone in the interval ;)
Are you racing OS again Andy? ;D
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So with no Brits final will the BCF make the O/S series a novice class ?
Not too sure about that because there are rules about how long you can stay a novice for, i.e. so many wins then you move up to expert. It would have to be an 'exhibition' race that each club would have to agree to put on , a bit like at the circus when they bring on the clowns to entertain everyone in the interval ;)
If that was the case I bet the "lady's front bums" at the BCF would still want there BCF Silver "Funds towards our expenses account" membership :tickedoff:
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..........a bit like at the circus when they bring on the clowns to entertain everyone in the interval ;)
Are you racing OS again Andy? ;D
:LolLolLolLol: :knuppel2:
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Its a shame when a minority make a decision that affects a majority in a negative way.
Us old skoolers should just knuckle down and carry on racing and growing the class, that would be the best way to show the BCF how wrong they are.
All sports have a heritage and BMX is no different, this decision was made by individuals who clearly were not informed about the full facts of O/S racing.
What we need is to get a magazine like fastlane to do a piece on O/S racing, who races, the bikes, what its all about and what it means for the sport.
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A shame that BC have taken this decision. I can't agree with the grumble about another class meaning more trophies. Just look at the additional classes that have been created for 2010 by splitting many of the expert classes into fairer individual age groups. Surely a class pays for it's own trophies throughout the course of a season anyway? :idiot2:
I was disappointed at the poor (for oldschool) turnout at the Brits. Don't know why this was, maybe a bit far for people to travel, maybe some were worried it would be full of sandbaggers spoiling the fun, who knows? I was pleased to see that the oldschool class was only raced by riders who have supported the class and there were no sandbaggers. Despite the poor turnout I know for a fact that a profit would have been made on the trophies provided to Oldschool. I know the cost of those trophies that were presented, and even first place is cheaper than the cost of registration.
I understand people's passion about getting oldschool recognised as a 'proper' class, but let's not forget what a great annual event MK is. To my mind it will always represent what Oldschool racing is to us all, far better that the Brits ever will. There are a few questions that now need answering, regarding how Oldschool will now be integrated into the Regional scene, but let's not get too worked up about it. I'm sure the Regions will still welcome us to their races. They will have to alter their pricing structure for us though, if we're not getting the full benefits associated with every other class. I can't see the North Region wanting to turn down race fees from 30 regular oldschool riders at each round, and this decision certainly won't affect what goes on in Scotland :daumenhoch:
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Well said Kenny!! :daumenhoch:
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Oh well, seems like there's not a great deal ANYONE can do about the situation. Charming, only been back 3 months & being forced to race another class. I will race old school wherever & whenever it's possible BUT.........it won't be happening if BC still want me to fork out for membership/licensing etc for my efforts not to be recognised noooo way :yahoo_silent:
I think the idea (not mine) of generating funds throughout the season toward trophies like at the southern champs is a good idea. At least OS will still be there for people to see, we'll still have our stage & that stage will be our two fingered salute to BC when the other classes look on in envy at the trophies presented to the class they tried to throw away. :rant:
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why not have an unrecognised (by BCF) old skool championship?
essentially we still do all the regionals that would be done and then have a seaon ending old skool only event. this can be our brits and the BCF can see just how successful it really can be.
hold it somewhere closer to the north and we get also of them as riders too
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My idea was to run a charity event like we have done before, charge the same entry fee as the Brits (£25), put £15 per entry into the charity pot and the other £10 goes towards trophies/plates etc. I've priced up trophies similar to those given out at the Southern Champs and we can do 1st to 8th for approx £280.00. Need 28 entries to cover it but i reckon we can do it, or alternatively run an Old School Brits at Rad Bash with the same entries/prizes etc :daumenhoch: So long as we get pre entries to cover the cost i dont see why it cant be done :daumenhoch:
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I've just had my rant on bmxtalk (I'm finnbob on there). I need to sit down now and have a sweet cup of tea......
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My latest offering on Talk
I think what we'll do in the South is keep paying BCF for membership for a class we cant race at the Brits (the culmination of the regionals sport you want O/S to support). We'll keep paying expert fees as we did back in the previous years and get sod all in return, i think we could all Tattoo MUG on our foreheads as well
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I've just had my rant on bmxtalk (I'm finnbob on there). I need to sit down now and have a sweet cup of tea......
Nice one Jamie, thanks for backing me up :daumenhoch:
That UB really p*ssed me off, they are so short sighted and blinkered it's unbelievable. I'm not even going to be racing any OS next year so why should I let it bother me but that UB comment about 'giving it a rest, think of the future' what a load of condescending b*llocks.
And another point they say it worked better as a charity race, are they saying they will still allow it as that. I didn't go the year before. How did it work?
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In my view, as a spectator, it wasn't as good as this year Andy. And when it's sold as a 'charity' race it isn't taken seriously- your comment about 'bringing the clowns out' in the break is valid here.
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Lytham St Annes November 2007...
4 of us on the gate...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/vv233/burnerworld4/000_0034.jpg)
Preston October 2009...
27 of us line up on the gate...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/vv233/burnerworld4/DSC_837120800x600.jpg)
I raced in 2008 at the Brits and loved every minute of it... I was racing at the BRITISH BMX Championships...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/vv233/burnerworld4/DSC_0776.jpg)
I was absolutely gutted when I couldn't make it this year and now I read this... it feels like a right kick in the spuds for all the guys who travel up and down the North of England, paying license fees and race fees only to be told that we aint deserving of a place at the BRITS... its stinks.
I've added my two penneth to the thread... but will this thread actually make its way to those who can the ckind of decision needed to re-instate Old Skool...
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I dont even think they're interested or bothered Dave.
I spoke to Bill today about holding an Old School Brits at MK same entry etc and he said it looks a good idea :daumenhoch:
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excellent points made on Talk Dave....
but as Nicky said they wont be bothered, we all know who would have put the boot in....
OS - We are Millwall......
Agree lets go underground....
Sod em.
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I said all along that MK is where our Oldschool racing finale belongs. MK is our BMX version of the Goodwood Festival of Speed (or lack thereof! ::)) with some fantastic bike displays and some racing fun thrown in for good measure. It's our annual meet where like-minded folk can get together and celebrate everything oldschool. Who wants to be where no-one wants us? If I had to choose whether I could race my oldschool bike at the Brits or MK it would be MK every time.
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BC Commission members Phil Townsend (East Anglia), Carole Gosling (South but never saw her at meetings in all my years there), Pete Phillips (South West), Tony Luckhurst (South), Grant White (??), Roger Wilbraham (??), Euan Goodman (East Anglia). Dwindling numbers and little support in EA and South and no class ran in 2009 in SW so the voting was stacked against approval somewhat from the outset. Rad the comments here and the best you can hope for is that the class will still have a place at Regionals but personally can't see why entrants should need to hold a BC membership if it's not a Brits category, ie. it must therefore be akin to Novices. The alternative Brits race at MK is best offering so far and would be the jewel in the crown for the class if you can pull it off with a huge turnout of riders entering for it. Call it the Open British Championship so no-one has to qualify to take part but you would have the opportunity to lay down some basic rules of your own regarding bike eligibility, rider age, etc. and then take it away to a successful event. Good luck. Humps
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I say we reform ukbmx
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Get in the faces of BC and the Commission and fight for your class. I rarely race old school and now they have a 40+ 20" I would do that at the Brits if I wanted to race 2 classes.
However, you guys who have created old school racing and worked hard to run series', etc have been shat on by BC and the Commission. Who the hell do they think they are to take your class away and deprive you of riding what you want to ride? It doesn't help that most of the people on the Commission aren't ex-riders. Mostly parents, not riders. They have never experienced the feeling one gets when lining up on the gate and racing against 7 other people, so of course it's easy for them to hit the delete button on the old school class because it's not really their sport, just something they govern because their kids race/raced. I'm not saying they're bad people, just that they don't see things from a rider's perspective, hence many decisions which suit them but not riders.
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Well what I`d do is ride my old school bike in the new 40+ 20" class just to fook them right off :LolLolLolLol:
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Yeah, who's to say you can't ride 40+ 20" on an oldschool bike? Oldschoolers could do that and people like Moley & me, and other regional reps could work out the Oldschool result and award our own trophies!
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Yeah, who's to say you can't ride 40+ 20" on an oldschool bike? Oldschoolers could do that and people like Moley & me, and other regional reps could work out the Oldschool result and award our own trophies!
I can see where you're comin from Kenny but why should this shit decision be taken lying down, i feel a petition coming on, the support on BMX Talk from the general public has been largely in favour of Old School so i say as per Mike, lets get in their faces >:D
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Yeah, who's to say you can't ride 40+ 20" on an oldschool bike? Oldschoolers could do that and people like Moley & me, and other regional reps could work out the Oldschool result and award our own trophies!
Yeah but I'm 38!! :D
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And I am only 36!
I'm with Mike on this... we shouldn't just roll over and go underground.
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Petition it is then boys :daumenhoch:
Moley, can you pm me please hun, you're better with stats than me :LolLolLolLol:
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Riding up a class is allowed, would you not say that riding an old school bike in a nu-school 40+ class was riding up :daumenhoch:
Anyway it would really piss off the members of the bcf that have decided to drop old school so it would be worth it just for that :daumenhoch:
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I'd already decided i was gonna do just that....ride my old skool in 40+ 20" and masters over winter,in fact i'd already spoke to crooch via pm about racing masters at braintree tomorrow if i go so fck em :daumenhoch:
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Petition it is then boys :daumenhoch:
Moley, can you pm me please hun, you're better with stats than me :LolLolLolLol:
Keep us up to date with any petition.The Feds have been acting like a dictatorship for years,be good to see them squirm. :daumenhoch:
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Riding up a class is allowed, would you not say that riding an old school bike in a nu-school 40+ class was riding up :daumenhoch:
Anyway it would really piss off the members of the bcf that have decided to drop old school so it would be worth it just for that :daumenhoch:
Good Point Bill!!! :daumenhoch:
Think about it!! The largest class at the Brits (40+ Veterans 20" Class) and its made up of 80%+ of Old Schoolers all riding 18" TT's with the most garish colours available to man. Freestyle Bikes and Motomag/Tuff wheels. Maybe even throw in a sidehack or that tandem BMX for good measure.
And the Saturday night OS Charity event we could just have 1 rider, RATTY going around on an old Butchers bike!!
Now that would be worth filming!! :LolLolLolLol:
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Sorry but I don't get why riding an OS bike in 40+ will get up peoples noses to me that looks like what they want to happen.
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It's clear there'll be no OS class & until the BC change things that's the way it'll stay BUT 40+ 20" means exactly that..........40 years of age on a 20" bike, no mention of bike type so us old schoolers need to turn up (& as billy said, the 30+ ers are free to ride up a class) in numbers & even better still, win on old school rides.
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Sorry but I don't get why riding an OS bike in 40+ will get up peoples noses to me that looks like what they want to happen.
Because if we all turn up at the Brits wearing retro OS Race gear on short TT OS bikes then it makes a mockery of their 'We only want serious BMX racing' classes rather than some jokey OS Class.
And if ALL OS riders can't get in the 40+ Veterans class and have to race Masters on OS bikes then thats 2 classes made to look a joke!!
I dont think it will come to that but it could be a good laff and big two finger salute to the commission!!
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We should also make it look a joke, how about a go slow protest, all cross the line together as close as we can get, let em pick the bones out of 8 draws for 1st place :crazy2:
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I'd already decided i was gonna do just that....ride my old skool in 40+ 20" and masters over winter,in fact i'd already spoke to crooch via pm about racing masters at braintree tomorrow if i go so fck em :daumenhoch:
Good plan guys but dont give up on racing old school just yet....
Ratty, Kev R and Steve Gilley are all going tomorrow, if you, Simon and Bill bring your old school rides we may get our own gate :daumenhoch: :4_17_5:
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fcuk it I'm going to race 40+ 20" on a fcuking Grifter.
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I'd already decided i was gonna do just that....ride my old skool in 40+ 20" and masters over winter,in fact i'd already spoke to crooch via pm about racing masters at braintree tomorrow if i go so fck em :daumenhoch:
Good plan guys but dont give up on racing old school just yet....
Ratty, Kev R and Steve Gilley are all going tomorrow, if you, Simon and Bill bring your old school rides we may get our own gate :daumenhoch: :4_17_5:
ill probably do both then... promise i wont leave it on the car again nicky....
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fcuk it I'm going to race 40+ 20" on a fcuking Grifter.
I'll see you that grifter, and raise you a shopper....with skyways on it :D
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i won't do cruiser and 20" it'll be one or the other,not really bothered to much tomorrow so may just have a blast on old skool in the 25+ which is what i think east anglia do :daumenhoch:
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DONT FORGET THE PICKIES OF YOU OLD FARTS RACIN NEW SCHOOLERS ,,,,BE MINT,,,THEN SEND EM TO BC
R :4_17_5:
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did anything ever come of this, i took my old school ride to a regional in the south this year but was the only one there so didn't race.
it seems most old schoolers down here now ride cruiser despite what they said and have given up on the class.
Hersden is the only place you can get a race with an average of nine riders turning up every meeting.
come on people get your old school rides out again and use them for what they were made for :daumenhoch: