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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: DIRTBIKER250F on January 14, 2010, 10:38 PM
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Look at this guys bikes :shocked: http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/hutch/19755
Now why would someone who builds bikes like this, rip me off ??? He answered a wanted post on the museum and offered me some mint Ti Hutch hubs. We had a little haggle on price and agreed $260 posted, anyway Brett said he would post em out a.s.a.p to beat the xmas post and also send me a tracking number, could i send as a gift. So thinking well i dont know this guy and he has only 4 feedback i decided to send and pay the fee, none gift. Anyway as soon as i paid him that was it no more replys to my messages e-mail or other, (I paid him on the 16th Dec) by the 28/29th Dec having still heard not a dickie i started a paypal dispute (thank fook i didnt gift it to him) anyway a day later he responds through paypal saying he had been away blah blah, and sort of maid out i was out of order for starting a dispute. Anyway i thought well ok, so i asked him for a tracking Number, he gave me one, only USPS dont recognise it at all, so cut a long story short a few more messages with one of em stating this is why he dont deal with Museum members :idiot2: he stopped all contact. I have escalated the dispute into a claim, my point is this
Why ??? why put yourself out to sell something you know fine well you aint gonna sell, as if it will go away.....Strange hobby this sometimes
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Also to piss me off even more, they are the last things i need ANDY
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Bummer :(
That's sh!t mate - I've always been a bit fearful of posting wanted threads up on any forum other than here - I guess It's easy for someone to respond to a want ad saying they have the item you need when really they could be full of shoyt ::)
Like you say though - seems strange as he has a decent collection of nice bikes so is obviously into the scene - why fook someone over - twunt :crazy2:
Hope it works out for you Paul ;)
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Thanks Bob a ;)
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just another cnut.
wipe your mouth mate and hope for the best with the dispute.
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no good when this happens , like when that heath mcw4nko had me over for 500 sheets , only got 120 back off paypal :tickedoff:
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blimey paul thats shite, i would be fookin livid :tickedoff: what was that for wardy?
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no good when this happens , like when that heath mcw4nko had me over for 500 sheets , only got 120 back off paypal :tickedoff:
Carl through all our dealings, haggling, fighting one thing stands out mate, you hate to loose even a £10 in a deal, that Heath shite must of burnt you real bad :-\
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bought a complete loopy ripper on yank ebay 3 years back , only just got into bmx , over the moon i was till i found out off here that heath mccaffrey , also had other aliases , was notorious for it , owed 1000 s out , done or is still doing bird for it over in the states :Aresehole:
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no good when this happens , like when that heath mcw4nko had me over for 500 sheets , only got 120 back off paypal :tickedoff:
Carl through all our dealings, haggling, fighting one thing stands out mate, you hate to loose even a £10 in a deal, that Heath shite must of burnt you real bad :-\
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i got over it and moved on :LolLolLolLol: your making me out to be a bit tight there captain :LolLolLolLol:
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Heath was /is a crook made me wait over 90 days for some Supergoose forks ,, yeah I eventually got them but not without aggrro
again he must've thought I'd pay and forget about them , oh yes very likely ::) , fookin p3nis :LolLolLolLol:
Hope you get every penny back for those hubs , Paul
and put him in every messers section on all forums
Hey what goes around ,comes around ,,, his turn will come ,,
just hope you get to hear about it :daumenhoch:
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bought a complete loopy ripper on yank ebay 3 years back , only just got into bmx , over the moon i was till i found out off here that heath mccaffrey , also had other aliases , was notorious for it , owed 1000 s out , done or is still doing bird for it over in the states :Aresehole:
nightmare mate :(
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This geezer has a bit of history, although that was a while back and he's sorted himself out of late till now anyways. If you're a member on OS go in there and call him out.
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theres some on ebay paul if ya get ya money back mate
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What a shuffle munsterer, then what do you expect from somone with 666 on his number plate :knuppel2: :knuppel2:
Call him out on Old Shool m8 :daumenhoch:
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Bob if you are a long time member on OS would you mind giving my post on their a bit of credibility as although i been a member on their since 07 its my first post mate. :daumenhoch:
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Can i get first dib dobs on this build of yours m8 :daumenhoch:
Some pics would be great as well ;)
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at this rate jim it won't get done till 2012 , see it now , hubs arrive and boom end of the world :LolLolLolLol:
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at this rate jim it won't get done till 2012 , see it now , hubs arrive and boom end of the world :LolLolLolLol:
You do make me laugh Gangle, Jimmy will send you some pics when the rivers run Orange :LolLolLolLol:
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at this rate jim it won't get done till 2012 , see it now , hubs arrive and boom end of the world :LolLolLolLol:
I just wanna own one before i die :LolLolLolLol:
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at this rate jim it won't get done till 2012 , see it now , hubs arrive and boom end of the world :LolLolLolLol:
You do make me laugh Gangle, Jimmy will send you some pics when the rivers run Orange :LolLolLolLol:
they are orange in brum :LolLolLolLol:
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stating this is why he dont deal with Museum members
That's the best part of your post Paul, hope you'll get things sorted the good way mate.
Funny to see to this will end in another Museum bashing on OS... Who cares?
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Another good reason not to buy anything off that site, all I read about it how folks get ripped off or the trolls and flamers on anyone who dares to question anyone else on the site ::).
Paul, I hope you get your money back; if you paid by credit card use them to claim against Paypal :daumenhoch:.
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Hi Just read over on OS that Brett says you filed a claim just 5 days after paying.......?
Is that true?
If that is true, then that's a very short time with which to file a claim do you not think....?
SORRY - Ignore this comment please - Incorrect information
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Hi Just read over on OS that Brett says you filed a claim just 5 days after paying.......?
Is that true?
If that is true, then that's a very short time with which to file a claim do you not think....?
think paul actually put the dates up there was 17 days after i think
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plus he was given a false tracking number was nt he , what do you expect him to do
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Just checked the tracking number - Nothing
Hope you get your hubs :daumenhoch:
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Just checked the tracking number - Nothing
Hope you get your hubs :daumenhoch:
Thanks for the backing on OS mate, much appreciated :4_17_5:
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bret kimble is the guys name ,been around for yonks and its fair to say hes not short of a bob or two either , the yanks are very laid back ..too laid back ,, hes proberly only just sent em out , going by me experience with him hes brought a few items from me over the years without any probs ... i reckon the hubs will come thru but its not good if hes gone all quiet on ya
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Just read the thread on OS, very well handled your part I reckon considering you were pretty much up against the whole lot of them. :daumenhoch:
You're allowed to say proper bad wods on there too :shocked:
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Lee, the guy may be ok with you, but he aint sent my hubs i paid for a month ago, no tracking number and no replies to my e-mails or threads, anyway i think i may have just got banned from OS Bmx in my first day :LolLolLolLol:
I dont give a fook if he owns the federal bank, and if he is personnal friends with Nelson Mandela, moneys money, and i could have bought 4 pair in the time its taken for this to come out. Maybe you should go and live with him if he is so minted and great :2funny: Jokin aside, there is Laid back and their is fook him ive got his money !!!!
Also the mods on there, jesus they dont like it up them do they ::)
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and i could have bought 4 pair in the time its taken for this to come out.
there hard to get hold of though , so shall we say maybe another pair :LolLolLolLol:
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I notice the mods and admin were happy for him to call you an F'ing thief but when you suggested his dad smack his arse, then they closed ranks very sharpish. He seems like a playground bully in his demeanour.
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Cannot find this post on O/S :-\
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paul what about the ones on ebay usa now mate???
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Marty i have spoke to the Guy, he will only take $40 off for loosing the rims and spokes, i may want some hubs but i refuse to bendd over and be spvnked on for em :daumenhoch:
After speaking to 3Gear, i do believe he has posted the hubs, i just hink he posted them later than he admitted and also cheapest mail available, i also heared he is a trusted guy of someone i trust, so its a case of wait it out :daumenhoch:
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"i am the owl" comes across as a bit of a sh#t stirrer?
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Fookin hell Paul that's a thread and a half over on OS :shocked: :LolLolLolLol:
So did you didn't get banned then ? :)
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No ban and 3 PM's off long standing members apologising for the way other members behaved, on guy told me 3GEAR has history off doing this, and their is history off all the long serving members uniting around him because he has some great old school part outs, water off a ducks back to me BoBa as he didnt do what we agreed and i still dont have any hubs, he did refund me though so it was worth it in the end.
Hutchman, yeah they took something i said right out of context and tried to bash me with it, Owl is a arse on the Museum and aint really liked so its no big deal. I knew i was going to be a lamb in the slaughter house but hey ho it beats reading NWO threads eh mods :LolLolLolLol:
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he did refund me though so it was worth it in the end.
:daumenhoch:
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Glad you got your money back - I remember there being problems with him although I don't go on OS-BMX any more and it was a long time ago.
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OK:
So I'm lost were we're up to:
Have you got a refund from Paypal Paul?
If so can we leave it now over on OS and see if they turn up. I've been there for a long time so I don't fancy a ban for stepping up for you.
Your comment about his dad didn't do you any favors (nor me) So what ever you say over there now isn't going to do any good - I'm afraid you burnt your bridges with that comment - understandably 'heat of the moment and all'.
If you would like me to mediate - just holla (that's not supposed to be as condescending as it perhaps reads)
But do let us all now if they turn up - Its doesn't make everything right, but its a start.
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If so can we leave it now over on OS and see if they turn up. I've been there for a long time so I don't fancy a ban for stepping up for you.
Your comment about his dad didn't do you any favors (nor me) So what ever you say over there now isn't going to do any good - I'm afraid you burnt your bridges with that comment - understandably 'heat of the moment and all'.
But do let us all now if they turn up - Its doesn't make everything right, but its a start.
Right maybe you can answer this, or anyone else ?? his dad had been ill with heart problems, i said i hope your dad fully recovers and smacks your arse for this bad sell !!!! will someone please tell me where i insulted his dad in that sentence, or where i wish ill on his dad ??? i cant see it.
Yeah he refunded me, but i had sent him maybe 4 e-mails and maybe 2 in paypal saying i would end it if he showed me proof of sending and or a tracking number. He didnt even reply ?? OS has made me realise just how fair some of our mods and owners are and just how free this site is (with-in reason) the guy didnt give a fook about acting fairly and you know he did realise in the end he was guilty of being a arse in this sale. Diesel as much as i respect you for standing up in their, the owner made up his mind to back Brett and used the father thing to add weight to his shite comments, but out of respect to you i wont post in that thread anymore, unless someone again accusses me of being a thief or any other shite remark to defend Brett's bullshit :daumenhoch:
I still want to know what is insulting about that remark ?? i just cant see it, and it wasnt meant to be an insult
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mate....i know how you feel! some geezer in the states done me a similar way through paypal for $720 for some hutch bits.in the end i googled his name looked at some websites and through facebook at names matching his and found only one in detriot.i took a gamble and posted emails to all 177 of his friends telling them about my ordeal.it payed off as i got an email from his brother asking for proof of my claim.within 2 days of emailing the proof i got a full refund.so if you know his full name mate,its worth a pop.good luck matey. :daumenhoch:
by the way the tosser who tried to rip me off was a JAMES KWIATKOWSKI from detroit michigan.
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cant see what you said wrong about his dad ???.
the fella sounds a proper knob.
to be honest i cant be bothered to kiss there big fat arses over there just to buy a bike part.
seems to much hassle.
if i were you mate i'd just go tell em all on os to fook them selves if thats the way it went off.
why would you wanna go on there after ???.
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Hi mate
Possible he could have sent out Registered Land Mail (by BOAT not AIR), I do this when I have things sent from Overseas as it can be half price. But on the negative side, sometimes it can be 3 weeks, then the next time its 8 weeks. ???
Why the time difference? Don't know! :(
Hope you sort it out and get them. :)
p.s. I've just bought something off someone who I don't know overseas and asked them to Invoice me "Goods Payment". I know it was a bit more, but hope I've done the right thing doing it this way. If it goes pear shaped hopefully get my money back through PayPal. :police:
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Paul you've had a long haul to recover you money - That's not right - It shouldn't have happened this way. But like you said you been in the hobby 6 years it shouldn't really come as a surprise that one day you could strike a bad deal - The pages on all 4 sites are littered with deals that have got ugly - Not one ever got resolved throwing insults.
However Its Christmas - His dads not well - He probably still isn't well. And certainly not well enough to get up and 'smack his arse for this bad sell'.
I'm not trying to excuse the lack of Brett's communication - but just think that now you have your money back and possibly a set of Hutch hubs coming your way (time will tell) That you have honorably offered to pay for on arrival.
Also you've brought the bad deal to everyones attention - You did in your 1st post - It was written well and read honestly
You were doing everything right, you were in the driving seat - Until you wrote the above. (family comes 1st)
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Ok Diesel what is it about that sentence that is wrong, if you can give me a staight answer to this then i will send Brett an apology. Its ok keep on saying it was an insult, but i dont see it so i do need it explaining to me. I honestly have no idea why it would come out as an insult. I even put in the thread at times like that i agree with Brett, os parts come a second best to family, and it was just ignored :idiot2:
Can you tell me ?
Dave i dont go on their mate, i went on cos i had a tip off that Brett was a well known name on their, i am still suprised at the anger aimed at me for being a brit, and having the gawl to bring this up on their....Still i wont be going on much from now on, although the Private PM's did do a bit to give me an input into the scenario over their, Rad is good, museum has its uses think ill stick to them, served me well enough up to now :LolLolLolLol:
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hi paul,didn't read all the comments before i replied a few minutes ago.so glad you got your wonga back mate :daumenhoch:
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stick to rad.
if you have this prob over here. a drop of fuel and a trip out sorts everything ;)
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TBH Dave, i try to do every deal like i would want doing to me mate, and then the fuel :LolLolLolLol: Rad is a different kettle of fish, go try another site like OS, its a bizzarre world of part prostitutes :LolLolLolLol:
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i don't see the comment about his father derogatory in the slightest way. you stated that you hoped he'd get better,then kick his ass. surely to"kick his ass"would be a sign of recovery,therefore wishing gods speed??
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i don't see the comment about his father derogatory in the slightest way. you stated that you hoped he'd get better,then kick his ass. surely to"kick his ass"would be a sign of recovery,therefore wishing gods speed??
You know thats how i seen it, it aint an insult in anyway shape or form :idiot2: you see it was used as a reason to back up a senior member, their was no insult. Deisel you can see how it was an insult, it would be good if you could explain it ?
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i think Dan's looking at it openly,without prejudice,he doesn't un- fairly judge anyone.he's a good ol boy.
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Before any miss reading is done here, Dan stood up there as a English Mod on a Us site and defended me, my beef will not be with Dan. I just want to know how it could be seen as a insult.
Hutchman your comments are appreciated dude, as are the lads on their who didnt even dare post on the thread but Pm'd me, strange fooking place, but stowed out with goodies an i burn't my rights to sell my rights for a part of em :LolLolLolLol:
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just had a read that on os paul ,,,,you stood up well dude
and the comment about his dad ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well thats the difference between them and us ,,,they do't understand a bit of light hearted humour ,,,,,it was you just trying to calm the thread down ,,
yet that f4ck wit of a mod has totally gone over the top with it :idiot2:
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for what it's worth,i hope you get your hubs,they are a nice thing to have.i've never met you,but i just know if they arrive..you'll send payment!!i think there's an unwritten trust on here.
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it was just saying to him he needs his arse smacking for being a naughty boy , that was used an excuse to have a go at ya plain and simple , if the mods keep on siding with him thats why hes got " i'll do what i want " attitude , bottom line you tried getting answers outta him , he didn't respond , you went about it the right way , he didn't , a comment by you has been blown outta proportion and misread , hes refunded ya , if hubs come great , pay him back , if they don't keep the cash , job done
make some enquiries in future captain on who ya doing deals with
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Just read the thread on OS and I know what you were getting at with the comment about his Dad, no harm meant but you have to remember 2 things... 1) Bringing up his Father even in jest etc wasn't needed 2) Americans have no fooking sense of humour (except for some of the bikes they build).
Stay away from OS now Paul, the Mods are tw@ts and S Brothers is the biggest **** I have ever had dealings with, he has a modicum of power from a BMX forum and thinks he is God.
I hope you get the hubs you need Paul.
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Sean the comment on his dad didnt mean anything, he brought it into the thread, anyway the second last post sums it up, he has had 4 deals with Brett and 3 off em have been fooked up, why he didnt learn his lesson the 2nd or 3ed time who fooking knows :LolLolLolLol:
I went on there to have it out Sean, made me feel better but i dont intend to make a hobby out of it :LolLolLolLol:
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The comment you made about his father was not out of order IMHO and the comments you made about it afterwards more than put across how you felt about his fathers illness and as far as I could see he Brett accepted that.
I agree with the others who said it was an excuse just to get at you, they all knew that he had been a bit naughty given his track record, either by not posting them or posting them late.
The best thing that could happen now is the hubs arrive in about a months time when it's all forgotten about and you start a new thread to acknowledge receipt and payment for the goods, leave that one buried forever.
As for feckwits that had plenty to say they were just sucking up to Mr S :P