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Forum => Q&A, Ideas & Feedback => Topic started by: oldschoolace on December 30, 2013, 07:57 PM
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Would it be a real pain to have a parts reference section? :-\
I used to use the one on the museum all the time to check items out and maybe find new stuff i didn't know existed but they have recently ballsed it up with their site tweek.
Surely its time we had our own
If people could add clear pics, a date of manufacture and any other relevant info to sub headed threads like stems, wheels, pedals etc i think it would be a valuable addition to rad :daumenhoch:
I know an effort has been made to start a similar thing in tech stickies but it would be nice if they were unified under their own section heading so they are easier to find.
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:daumenhoch:
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Tell me where you would like it and how you would like it to look and I will sort it.
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Sean, i think in order to be user friendly it would need its own title (with one of the green/red orb things) between the tech and restoration heading and the museum heading ideally.
If it then had threads headed stems, pedals, wheels, seats, cranks etc it would be a great repository of info.
To get it going we could graft the existing parts reference posts mixed up in the stickies if that is possible
not sure who would mod it but it would need keeping an eye on to keep it to just informative pics and related info rather than chatter.
Maybe a little header suggestion to posters to add dates, manufacturers etc along with their pics.
I know this may be asking alot but i think everyone would find it useful, newbs and old hands alike :daumenhoch:
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Good idea this :daumenhoch:
Date stamped stuff is easy enough when searching for parts,
Stuff like grips, stems, bars, tyres, rims etc is a bit harder to fathom
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something along the line of "martinbike" ? don't want to take anything away from his site... but haven't been able to access it for months, and I found it invaluable .
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I think the only way it would work is to have it as a read only area and people submit photos for the mods and admin to add in the correct sections.
This would be extremely time consuming though and would need some proper thought on how it would work?
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I did think that but i thought it would be too much work for you guys Rob.
If a mod could just keep an eye on it from time to time hopefully it could keep itself tidy like our museum section :daumenhoch:
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I actually think our museum section sucks. It doesn't really give any proper information at all.
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I totally agree, its more just a collection of photo's of whatever brand you are looking at.
It does seem to stay comment free though :daumenhoch:
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Yet another idea I put forward lsst year ans was told "The Museum has it there, we dont need it here" :yahoo_silent:
I spent 2 months a little back sorting the Mitsuboshi/Tioga timeline as it was wrong on the Museum. A valuable tool when trying to attain the correct era tyres for your build without having to go searching. Let me know if you want it guys okay.
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I think the only way it would work is to have it as a read only area and people submit photos for the mods and admin to add in the correct sections.
This would be extremely time consuming though and would need some proper thought on how it would work?
I am sure we have a new moderator who needs a job to do Rob :LolLolLolLol:
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:LolLolLolLol: good point Sean ;D
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This is exactly my thinking Terry :daumenhoch: Informed listings from people who know the subject rather than a "this stem came on my 86 mongoose when i got it" sort of post
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Keep throwing ideas at us guys for this, I like the sound of it and if it can be added (even if it is a pain in the ass for Retrodan72 to moderate :LolLolLolLol:) we will add it.
At the end of the day it is your forum and we will accomodate things however we can.
I want to find a way of having our Bike Museum alphabetised as it bugs the shit out of me as it is.
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Glad I'm not the only one who's bugged by it.
Let's see what we can do about that Sean :daumenhoch:
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To be honest, when the site was back up with this new one, I loved having the old school bmx section as it was, if only people knew how it was meant to be used. Race section for completed builds and race chat for all the other stuff about race bikes. It would have worked and been so neat and tidy if people didn't start 40 page threads about a build in the race section.
Maybe it was the headers that threw people off, I don't know.
It will definately need moderating for sure and will need someone with knowledge of parts, a tidy clean person who knows how to file etc etc would be a help too.
I know what you mean on that front Clint. No just willt nilly shots of a stem on a bike in the shed at the back in the dark saying my Robinson with a gold stem on etc etc :D ;D
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It will definately need moderating for sure and will need someone with knowledge of parts, a tidy clean person who knows how to file etc etc would be a help too.
:LolLolLolLol: @ tidy & clean, you don't want much do you Tel? :teef:
Why not add on big boobs and that they turn into a 4 pack & a ham sandwich at midnight?
Seriously though a section like that would be cool, the ones we have where parts are supposed to go into 'race' or 'freestyle' don't work for me tbh, while some things are obvious eg Potts mod stems/smooth tyres there are loads of bits that could go on any bike
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So is this a potential go'er then guys?
It bugs trying to find out the simplest of info like what year a rotor is when google is now overrun with Chinese companies trying to pedal shite
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@ tidy & clean, you don't want much do you Tel? :teef:
Nope ;D To be fair mate, I am a bit funny about tidiness, bought up that way and when the old sections were here, it used to bug the fook out of me when someone posted a freestyle bike in the race section or asked a technical question in the completed builds race section. I kind of thought it was laziness as it was simply laid it and easy to know where things went.
ones we have where parts are supposed to go into 'race' or 'freestyle' don't work for me
Totally agree on that mate.
I think it needs a simple format of a thread for the year, say 1981. In that thread it needs an each part section, say stems. In that it just needs the stems available for you to buy in 1981. No comments or jokes or banter, just the model and pictures.
I know some years will have some of the same parts in it but, for a newbie or quick reference, If I or they were building a 1981 bike, you could just click on the tab and see what stems were available for your build in that year. Simple.
As for the logistics and layout, I couldn't comment as I don't know the format your site, sorry :-\
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Man, just had another look over on the museum and its a mess, stuff missing and all posts by a few mods (i guess because they did the transfer to the updated site)
I had a few guys over there pm me about more info on some mags i posted and they wouldn't be able to do that now as my tag isn't on the post.
If the reference section is going ahead (in whatever format) is there a way we can make sure the valuable info doesn't get lost by site updates, crashes and people deleting their images from their photobucket account? (this really fooks me off when looking through old threads >:()
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have you not looked at the stickies in the tech section
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small point , just my opinion
i think would clarify things to set out the years in decades 70-79 80-89 etc, for the components , think there's less than 30 individual components on a bike
so headsets 70-79
80-89
90 -99
20-09
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this will do away with the fuzzy line between "schools " and the enevitable "that's in the wrong era threads, you can decide which school for yourself after dating the parts ,
maybe the wrong way to do it but seems logical to me, :idiot2: :LolLolLolLol:
i know its a big job to set up a data base like this , but once its done it will be great reference starting point , the BMXmuseum one has been used for years by most of us so why not have a better one here :daumenhoch: :Great_Britain:
sure if moderated well (Dan :daumenhoch:) it will prove itself invaluable
Edit note to self ........read the whole thread before posting :LolLolLolLol:
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Jim, 'schools' wouldn't come into it.
The way I see it working is like this....(shoot me down if people think I'm barking up the wrong tree)
Bikes listed by make and year
Parts listed under headings of Grips, Stems, Brakes then listed under make.
What do you think?
Also keep it to 4 pictures Max on each item and a brief breakdown, not a whole page of waffle.
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all good , yup i think listing under "make" would simplify the sections , i only mentioned the dates as in the past i've trawled through pages and pages of say for eg :- hubs, trying to date or id them on the museum, then had to post up a thread saying "can you date this bit" or "can you id this bit"
i suppose there could be separate threads in the the reference section just for component manufacturer id and dating, once a definate id is found this info could be added to the ref section ?
difficult , how many sub categories before it gets complicated to navigate , makes your headache :LolLolLolLol:
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I think it would be a great addition, and make peoples choices of parts easier. :daumenhoch:
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I think this is a great idea.
Like said have a section for Stems for example, then brand sub sections like Win, Suntour etc. Just like the Museum.
No Chat, just for posting pictures and info. :daumenhoch:
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Thats exactly what we're looking at :daumenhoch:
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i think this is a great idea , lots of interest already in it ... and has RETRODANS name all over it ... organising it i mean :LolLolLolLol:
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When I finally get a chance to get around to finishing this, I mean something like this guys.
Everything is correct so far apart from the Freestyle tyre section and a few date queries which I will get back to work on soon :daumenhoch:
Mitsuboshi Competition II Yellow label 1978-1983
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/aeee8eec2eb7435ab8486e0f883e598217410000016ffe4ac5d4_blowup_zpsf79800a3.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/aeee8eec2eb7435ab8486e0f883e598217410000016ffe4ac5d4_blowup_zpsf79800a3.jpg.html)
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/partz941_zps945f4399.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/partz941_zps945f4399.jpg.html)
Tioga Orange/Blue/Green label Comp II label believed to have started around 1983 - 198?
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/p1012470_lg_zps9008fd4d.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/p1012470_lg_zps9008fd4d.jpg.html)
Another Tioga label variation. Appears to be Factory of Production specification, not Tioga specification 1983 - 198?
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w495/Freestylerider/BMX/4936333f-63a3-4859-addb-ca1af5c00d7a_zpsa8593bc6.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Freestylerider/media/BMX/4936333f-63a3-4859-addb-ca1af5c00d7a_zpsa8593bc6.jpg.html)
Mitsuboshi Yellow label Competition III 1981-1983
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/24y1_blowup_zpsad2103e9.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/24y1_blowup_zpsad2103e9.jpg.html)
Tioga Comp III Black/Green/Yellow label 1983-1986
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/compIII83-86_zps529b2bef.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/compIII83-86_zps529b2bef.jpg.html)
Another Tioga label variation. Appears to be Factory of Production specification, not Tioga specification 1983 - 1986
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/comp3yellow01_zps3a3e7462.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/comp3yellow01_zps3a3e7462.jpg.html)
Tioga Comp III Blue/Green/Grey label 1985 - 1986
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/compIII87-88_zps47235287.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/compIII87-88_zps47235287.jpg.html)
Tioga Comp III Blue/Green/Grey label 1987-1992 (Better detailing replaced the latter)
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/dsc00734k_zps2a8b0ada.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/dsc00734k_zps2a8b0ada.jpg.html)
Tioga Comp III 'Rainbow' label 1989 - sometime in the mid 90's to be updated as it appears they started later than 1989
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/img_2589_copy3_blowup_zps0d5d000b.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/img_2589_copy3_blowup_zps0d5d000b.jpg.html)
Mitsuboshi Competition IV only produced from Mid 1983 until December 1983. Also used on the Hutch Pro Star release, in tandem with the Hutch tyre logo
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/comp_iv_tire_3_blowup_zps019f7209.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/comp_iv_tire_3_blowup_zps019f7209.jpg.html)
Tioga Comp IV 1983 - 1986
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/compIV83---_zpsf7169155.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/compIV83---_zpsf7169155.jpg.html)
Tioga Comp V Red/Blue/Green label 1984 - 1986 These are sew ups for Araya skinny rims
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/post-2904-13263914291_thumb_zpsb9b9424e.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/post-2904-13263914291_thumb_zpsb9b9424e.jpg.html)
Tioga Comp V Blue/Green/Grey label 1985 - 1988
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/post-2904-132639142795_thumb_zps3ad820da.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/post-2904-132639142795_thumb_zps3ad820da.jpg.html)
The first Comp ST tyre known only as Stadium tyres 1980 -
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/2008-09-26001_zps886e4bd2.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/2008-09-26001_zps886e4bd2.jpg.html)
Comp ST Blue/Green/White label - (I don't know the dates on these)
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/compST-----1_zps9ccd6ed2.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/compST-----1_zps9ccd6ed2.jpg.html)
Comp ST 'new font' label - (I don't know the dates on these)
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/compST-----2_zps54ddd503.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/compST-----2_zps54ddd503.jpg.html)
Comp Ramps - Blue/Green/White label - (I don't know the dates on these)
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Comp%20Tyres/DSC02427_zpsa55878bf.jpg) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Londonhellboy/media/Comp%20Tyres/DSC02427_zpsa55878bf.jpg.html)
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Lets hope they are all as clear and informative at that Terry :4_17_5:
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Nice one Terry im sure with everybodys input and help it would be fantastic and jog the old grey matter on things ive forgot, like my name. Well I am over 40. I think ran out of fingers and toes. :crazy2:
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Any updates on this o' powerful ones :D :daumenhoch:
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can I start my own section :LolLolLolLol:
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Still raining still dreaming :)
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I know this is a bit of an ask but is there some way we can sort the reference sections out? Totally gave up on the museum now they have trashed what used to be a very informative area.
Ours isn't much better though :(
little or no info to accompany the pics, quite a few of which are missing as the poster has deleted them from their hosting account :(
is there someone who could perhaps be a reference mod, adding extra Info and possibly host all the pics on a dedicated account if the site itself can't host them.
would be ace if every post was as informative as Terrys tyre post :daumenhoch:
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Just me bothered then :-\
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Are you nominating yourself for job Clint ?
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Would happily have a go at it Nick with a bit of help/guidance from other more sage types.
both the museum and here are essentially no better than a Google search. Must be a backache for those looking to do era correct stuff, especially if you want something a little different :(
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I think it's a great idea but it would need to be moderated for authenticity, it's already being done in vintage section which I use.
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Would happily have a go at it Nick with a bit of help/guidance from other more sage types.
both the museum and here are essentially no better than a Google search. Must be a backache for those looking to do era correct stuff, especially if you want something a little different :(
I'm sure you'd do a good job Clint and I'm sure there's enough collective knowledge on Rad to rectify any mistakes that may occur.
Clint for President :4_17_5: ... the campaign starts here
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I've pics of everything i've sold...... ;D needs to be direct uploads though and not photophucket as i have a clearout every so often.......
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Would happily have a go at it Nick with a bit of help/guidance from other more sage types.
both the museum and here are essentially no better than a Google search. Must be a backache for those looking to do era correct stuff, especially if you want something a little different :(
Keys are under the mat ;)
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Had a look but only found a few rather surprised looking woodlice ;D
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Quick re-rant. Stumbled on this thread and thought it would make an interesting read. As per usual crucial pics missing forever
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,87765.0.html
bout time we got the image hosting and in turn reference section nailed down :whistle:
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Gonna keep ranting til I get banned :-\
started to notice images missing from the reference section already. Come on guys let's sort it
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Unfortunately the images have been deleted from the photobucket account of the individual who posted it originally and not RADs fault.
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Yep. I know it's not an easy task but we should find a way to resolve this. Sections like the reference section are one of the key plus points for a forum over the likes of Facebook, Twitter etc.
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Yep. I know it's not an easy task but we should find a way to resolve this. Sections like the reference section are one of the key plus points for a forum over the likes of Facebook, Twitter etc.
Agree completely but I'm a complete technophobe so I have no idea how to do it!
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Is there a way admin could have access to a communal photobucket account or similar and rehost the images where they sit so the images are affiliated with the original poster? ( this is hugely important for follow up questions etc and one of the major fook ups on the Museum )
I understand changing the image hosting to a new method may mean a relaunch of the site?
A communal photobucket site would sidestep this issue, although involve quite a bit of work for the admin
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I've just read all the posts in this thread to get idea about the issues that makes it difficult to have reference-section that really works. I'm not at all into the technical side of how a forum is or can be layed out. But out of interest I went to the simple machines-website in order to maybe find a feature that can be added to our current forum, without the need to recreate the whole thing.
I've found a feature named "SMF Mod Site". I will put the link below...
If I understood that correctly, this feature would allow to add a new board to the current forum page, that would act like a sub-forum page (sorry can't find any better words). Due to the huge range a refrence-section would have, something like a sub-forum could be a solution to avoid hundreds of child-boards.
In a sub-forum environment it should be possible to at least have a reference-section that is devided into several topics such as all the different item like: stems, bars, brakes and so on.
Before I expand my thoughts /or dream any further :-[, maybe someone who's into the technical side could have a look at this feature and then could verify if this feature does what I think it does. ...as well as if it could be added to the current forum format. :daumenhoch:
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php'mod=1834
PS: In the description there's link to a forum site that is actually using this mod.