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Title: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: ED209 on September 06, 2013, 06:47 PM
Heres one for all those who scooped a bargain Boa @ MK  :daumenhoch:

ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap

Important - before you start! make sure you work over a cloth / blanket as 68 tiny ball bearings will fall out as you take the brake apart!!!

Here we go ...

- Remove the front 'sealed mech' cap with your fingers. If the tiny threaded bit the cap screws onto stays in the brake and you need it out theres a tiny allen key head on the end of it to unscrew it with.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/IMG_2497_zpsded99a9e.jpg) (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/209ed/media/IMG_2497_zpsded99a9e.jpg.html)

- Unscrew the mounting nuts and rear spring holder.

- Hold the front of the spindle with a spanner whilst slotting a small allen key into the holes in the rear lock nut and unscrew ( theres no allen head in those holes ... you just use it as a lever ) - REMEMBER to do this SLOWLY and over the cloth / blanket as all the ball bearings in the brake will fall out as it becomes loose.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/IMG_2498_zps20f2865f.jpg) (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/209ed/media/IMG_2498_zps20f2865f.jpg.html)

- As you carefully remove the arms from the spindle REMEMBER the direction of the seals and the order that they are mounted in. All the seals can be re used in the spindle swap.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/IMG_2499_zps2a21bf10.jpg) (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/209ed/media/IMG_2499_zps2a21bf10.jpg.html)

( I wanted to strip the arms on my brake so I popped them in a bit a Synstrip and gave them a light polish )

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/IMG_2501_zps5ed6a01d.jpg) (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/209ed/media/IMG_2501_zps5ed6a01d.jpg.html)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/IMG_2502_zpsdf9c559c.jpg) (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/209ed/media/IMG_2502_zpsdf9c559c.jpg.html)

- Divide the bearings into 4 piles of 17. If the bearing races have dropped out of the brake arms use a blob of grease to stick them in again.

- Using a good amount of grease place the bearings back into the races on each side of each brake arm ... if you have a greasy finger this is useful for picking the bearings up. Get them roughly in position then use the small allen key again to position them... smooth the grease over to finish. This is fiddly but not as bad as it seems :-)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/IMG_2503_zps9593760d.jpg) (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/209ed/media/IMG_2503_zps9593760d.jpg.html)

- Once you have done this for both sides of the brake CAREFULLY remount the new spindle getting the seals in the right position and right way round. Do the final tightening GENTLY as the bearings can easy pop out or you can mash the seals ... slow and steady :-)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/IMG_2504_zps36a2c2ed.jpg) (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/209ed/media/IMG_2504_zps36a2c2ed.jpg.html)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/IMG_2505_zps1efc0273.jpg) (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/209ed/media/IMG_2505_zps1efc0273.jpg.html)

- Tighten everything up and again screw the spring mount back in.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/IMG_2507_zps80790787.jpg) (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/209ed/media/IMG_2507_zps80790787.jpg.html)

- Polish up to clean up any remains of the grease.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/IMG_2506_zps250b833f.jpg) (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/209ed/media/IMG_2506_zps250b833f.jpg.html)

Job done :-)
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: pkripster on September 06, 2013, 06:49 PM
ask costa
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: harris on September 06, 2013, 06:49 PM
lots of grease,they try to fall out  not hard just tricky.done loads
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: Dannywhac on September 06, 2013, 06:56 PM
lots of grease,they try to fall out  not hard just tricky.done loads

x2

If it's a used one, don't start to take it apart until you've got it over a bowl - them bearings shit everywhere if they're not greased. When you undo the retainer nut on the back, push the front of the axle (holding the arms in your fingers) so bearings that fall out will only come out from the bit of the brake at the rear, and from where you want them to :)

That and curse as you realise the placcy bearing seals are fooked. They'll still go back together though. Built to last them Boas  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: ED209 on September 06, 2013, 07:05 PM
its a new one Dannsta.

How do you get the retaining nut off the back? ... the one with the holes drilled in it?
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: Dannywhac on September 06, 2013, 07:12 PM
Thats the fella - I've always used (after unscrewing the placcy front bit) a set of mole-grips on the front nut, then use either a small allan key/jewellers screwdriver in the holes on the back nut (failing that another mole-grip) on the rear nut. Basically hold the front of the Boa in place and unthread the rear nut  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: GavinDavis on September 06, 2013, 07:34 PM
Its not too bad a job to be fair Ed, I did it to a boa that I bought off Olly.

One thing I will add though in addition to the bearings going everywhere.....i think there are 68 bearings in a boalol, is to remember which way the seals go round on top of the bearings.

I made the mistake of getting it all back together, tightening it up only to watch the seals buckle and the bearings tried to exit from all angles lol.

Be on guard.....and keep your cool.....2 very important factors for the job lol
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: chubby on September 06, 2013, 07:39 PM
Another tip is don't attempt is while looking after an 18 month old, it needs full concentration first time round  "nono"
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: GavinDavis on September 06, 2013, 07:41 PM
Another tip is don't attempt is while looking after an 18 month old, it needs full concentration first time round  "nono"

Very good point! Lol
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: ED209 on September 06, 2013, 08:34 PM
thank you one and all ... off now to tinker  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: chubby on September 07, 2013, 01:23 PM
thank you one and all ... off now to tinker  :daumenhoch:

you done it yet ???
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: ED209 on September 07, 2013, 01:40 PM
Stripped it down.
Stripped the paint off the calipers and gave them a light polish.
Waiting for the new spindle off Costa!
Full photo story to follow.
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: brakedancer on September 07, 2013, 09:27 PM
I was going to get one with 10mm spindal and drill my forks is that a bad idea....??
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: GavinDavis on September 08, 2013, 02:10 PM
I would try and do the conversion before you start drilling mate, its pretty final once youve drilled
Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: brakedancer on September 08, 2013, 02:40 PM
is it still possible  to run a cable down for potts if i do drill them...

Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: GavinDavis on September 08, 2013, 04:19 PM
Hmmm I think it would be too tight to be honest.  Its tight enough with a 6mm  ;D

Title: Re: ACS Boa axle swap
Post by: midschooljon on September 08, 2013, 04:40 PM
is it still possible  to run a cable down for potts if i do drill them...

Depends on the forks. My Bashy sport worked fine with fat axle, but I image some forks might struggle.
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: ED209 on September 08, 2013, 05:59 PM
All done  :angel: How-to uploaded  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: midschooljon on September 08, 2013, 06:03 PM
Nice work Ed. Done a few myself and its not the most fun Ive ever had.  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: harris on September 08, 2013, 07:54 PM
good work ed
you can pump my air bed up anyday  big boy.
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: GavinDavis on September 08, 2013, 08:35 PM
Great little thread there Ed! Top work mate  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: ED209 on September 08, 2013, 10:23 PM
good work ed
you can pump my air bed up anyday  big boy.


mmmmmm yes please Dan  :bow:
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: griff on September 08, 2013, 11:26 PM
Nice thread  :daumenhoch:

Now make it sticky with your fat greasy finger  ;)
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: ED209 on September 09, 2013, 07:07 AM
Nice thread  :daumenhoch:

Now make it sticky with your fat greasy finger  ;)

Ed had other plans for his greasy finger

 :surprise:
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: oldtired on September 09, 2013, 09:56 PM
Wadz's  boa bearings are all over the floor at T1  :LolLolLolLol:     boing!  :LolLolLolLol:

ed's  been on his sticky fingers for ages,   just run away when he says "ere sniff this "
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: Demongt on June 03, 2015, 10:26 PM
Dose anyone still sell the swap kits?
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: ED209 on June 04, 2015, 12:35 PM
Dose anyone still sell the swap kits?

Steve Costa used to have them but he seems to have disappeared!
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: welsh denny on June 04, 2015, 08:59 PM
i'm sure i heard something about drilling out 5p pieces and using them instead of the bearings back in the 90's. may have been rob ridge before he got sealed bearings for them and offered upgrades for riders.
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: Ady on November 17, 2015, 09:22 PM
I know this is a old thread..
Has anyone a link to obtain the convertion kit.
Have emailed a guy from Germany who sold loads on ebay and just replied got none left..
Cheers all..
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: MIQ on September 03, 2018, 09:43 PM
Has anyone got Any of the 10mm to 6mm kits available for sale
Title: Re: ACS Boa 10mm to 6mm spindle swap
Post by: dp and chopper dude on September 04, 2018, 11:20 AM
Has anyone got Any of the 10mm to 6mm kits available for sale

Have you seen this thread in the For Sale section?

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,192870.0.html (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,192870.0.html)

Get your name down for one  :daumenhoch:
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