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Title: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Jamroll on March 17, 2012, 03:05 PM
Noticed that the thread for the NOS Frames & Forks has also gone...
Real shame as i was about to dib the CWZ1 for the asking price of £600  ::)
 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Retrodan72 on March 17, 2012, 03:16 PM
Is this guy on glue Al? Does he think that nobody on here know's what various items are and how much they're worth??  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Jamroll on March 17, 2012, 03:25 PM
I'm guessing he must think we came down in the last shower  :idiot2:...I'd be surprised if we see to much more advertised here.
I guess the Museum or Rewind could be the next stop  ;D
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: MaD-RoK on March 17, 2012, 03:45 PM
FFS!!! I just bought a MASSIVE crate of popcorn too.  :'(
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Darren KAP on March 17, 2012, 03:47 PM
   I wouldn't let it bother you guys , he's only fronting it , they have no intention of selling anything to Radsters for sensible money , there just teasing us

   well i know what they can go do ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

   i was hoping to get some gear but i'll wait
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Darren KAP on March 17, 2012, 03:48 PM
FFS!!! I just bought a MASSIVE crate of popcorn too.  :'(

          :2funny:     :4_17_5:   
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: pkripster on March 17, 2012, 04:00 PM
his prices going up n dwn like a woman on top of ya :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: his just droped da monkey bars to 400
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: markyp on March 17, 2012, 04:01 PM
whats a cw z1?never heard of that one :-\
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: DoubleD on March 17, 2012, 04:08 PM
whats a cw z1?never heard of that one :-\

for that price  it must be a bmw z1  :2funny:

shame   that it has come to this point

some nice frame sets for sale but  :shocked:  at the prices
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: ozone on March 17, 2012, 04:10 PM
Parasites really take the fun out of what's meant to be a hobby.   :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: MaD-RoK on March 17, 2012, 04:11 PM
Right then, just been speaking to Guy and the NOS TURBO LITE is up for £500. If anyone's interested you can pm me and I'll pass the details on  :daumenhoch:
  ^"^ ^"^ ^"^ ^"^
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Jamroll on March 17, 2012, 04:21 PM
whats a cw z1?never heard of that one :-\

Dont know why i put that Mark, I'm feeling rough as fook at the moment and clearly it is now affecting the brain  :-[
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Robbo on March 17, 2012, 04:22 PM
Just clocked that the skywaym4n is on the rider list for the London ride, this could be interesting if he shows up!!  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Retrodan72 on March 17, 2012, 04:24 PM
Parasites really take the fun out of what's meant to be a hobby.   :uglystupid2:

To be fair Guy (Gmac) has obviously (for whatever reason) lost the love for the hobby - his decision and I respect him for that, we all have our different circumstances and he believes the time has come to part with his collection. :)

From previous threads, he clearly seems like a top bloke, i've no reason to think otherwise, I am a bit puzzled though as to why he's offered Stephane the job of shifting his stuff. I'm guessing Guy has had hold of this stuff for a while and i've no doubt that he paid a lot less for it than it's worth now, let's face it, things have shot up recently. :(

What I am a little fooked off over is that Stephane is rocking up on this forum with his random, bizarre prices. He is so clearly trying to earn himself a nice little (huge) wedge, and at the same time take the p!ss out of us Radsters. >:D

I'm not minted, I build and buy what I can afford, but even if i'd got 6 numbers in the lotto, I certainly wouldn't buy any of this stuff and line the pockets of this sh!tehouse bleeder. :rant:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Retrodan72 on March 17, 2012, 04:25 PM
Just clocked that the skywaym4n is on the rider list for the London ride, this could be interesting if he shows up!!  :LolLolLolLol:

...as if he will. :-[
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: MaD-RoK on March 17, 2012, 04:29 PM
Well it certainly looks like he is making up prices, and adding on to what Guy asks for. He gets touchy though if you quiz him so be nice dudes.  :D :D :D


http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=141676.msg1382091;topicseen#msg1382091
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: mattfx81 on March 17, 2012, 04:36 PM
I don't know skywayman and I don't know guy but for ffs marking prices up like this and selling in this manner is just pushing the hobby further and further away from most folks reach. It's a piss take so I hope people don't entertain these sales and buy naff all and maybe the items may be offered at a reasonable price. >:(
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: WINI on March 17, 2012, 04:43 PM
Herein lies the problem.  There's not much moral integrity and a lot of hypocrisy on here at times from some people.  I've seen people slag off others to no end......until they list something they want to buy, when it returns to 'mate' status.

Desperation is a sad thing to behold
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: sparky on March 17, 2012, 06:14 PM
Herein lies the problem.  There's not much moral integrity and a lot of hypocrisy on here at times from some people.  I've seen people slag off others to no end......until they list something they want to buy, when it returns to 'mate' status.

Desperation is a sad thing to behold

Gotta say I've felt like radman all week (no not Lee and I don't want to feel him  :crazy2: ) but so many people have PM'd me and said 'get ready for the 'hi mate' and 'I live you comments'. :LolLolLolLol:

Seriously though, although I've made profit on what I've been luckily enough to get hold of, my main priority was to sell fairly, honestly and at a price that people are comfortable with and to members here and on my own forum. I think if you want more money and maximum gain then Ebay is the way.

I can't remember in such a small space of time when I've read so much abuse on here in Sales threads, which is a shame really and I'm sure much of it comes from the demand for high prices and the rarity of original parts.

Let's hope it settles down quickly and doesn't spill over or hang around by the time MK arrives. :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: mattuknc on March 17, 2012, 06:19 PM
Herein lies the problem.  There's not much moral integrity and a lot of hypocrisy on here at times from some people.  I've seen people slag off others to no end......until they list something they want to buy, when it returns to 'mate' status.

Desperation is a sad thing to behold

Gotta say I've felt like radman all week (no not Lee and I don't want to feel him  :crazy2: ) but so many people have PM'd me and said 'get ready for the 'hi mate' and 'I live you comments'. :LolLolLolLol:

Seriously though, although I've made profit on what I've been luckily enough to get hold of, my main priority was to sell fairly, honestly and at a price that people are comfortable with and to members here and on my own forum. I think if you want more money and maximum gain then Ebay is the way.

I can't remember in such a small space of time when I've read so much abuse on here in Sales threads, which is a shame really and I'm sure much of it comes from the demand for high prices and the rarity of original parts.

Let's hope it settles down quickly and doesn't spill over or hang around by the time MK arrives. :daumenhoch:


Here, here.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Jt on March 17, 2012, 06:34 PM
Stop being so nice.

The mans an arrogant prick.
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Robbo on March 17, 2012, 06:39 PM
The mans an arrogant prick.

What you trying to say?  ???  ;D
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Gashead on March 17, 2012, 06:40 PM
Not to worry he's gone now !
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Why isnt this working on March 17, 2012, 06:41 PM
This is so f*cking boaring. Sack him off please...

Si  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Why isnt this working on March 17, 2012, 06:42 PM
Not to worry he's gone now !


Ahhh......and as if by magic  :D... Thank you dear.. :-*

Si. :)
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Robbo on March 17, 2012, 06:49 PM
Not to worry he's gone now !

You was itching to use your special button wasnt you?  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Dark Diggler on March 17, 2012, 06:54 PM
To be fair, we all played along with his game, him and his bum chums like nothing better than people biting and the mild hysteria that ensued, they get off on it and deffinately have form for this type of behaviour....


Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Gashead on March 17, 2012, 07:08 PM
It's not only me that has power to the ban button  :coolsmiley:


However 'The Power of The People' forced the finger  :police:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: sparky on March 17, 2012, 07:26 PM
Herein lies the problem.  There's not much moral integrity and a lot of hypocrisy on here at times from some people.  I've seen people slag off others to no end......until they list something they want to buy, when it returns to 'mate' status.

Desperation is a sad thing to behold

Gotta say I've felt like radman all week (no not Lee and I don't want to feel him  :crazy2: ) but so many people have PM'd me and said 'get ready for the 'hi mate' and 'I live you comments'. :LolLolLolLol:

Seriously though, although I've made profit on what I've been luckily enough to get hold of, my main priority was to sell fairly, honestly and at a price that people are comfortable with and to members here and on my own forum. I think if you want more money and maximum gain then Ebay is the way.

I can't remember in such a small space of time when I've read so much abuse on here in Sales threads, which is a shame really and I'm sure much of it comes from the demand for high prices and the rarity of original parts.

Let's hope it settles down quickly and doesn't spill over or hang around by the time MK arrives. :daumenhoch:


you were fine with me Mark, that first deal we did years ago was cracking and very fairly priced...

I think most of us try to be Marty. :daumenhoch:

At the end of the day, I don't give a toss what people say about me behind my back as long as their courteous in PM conversation and to my face. People are often a different kettle of fish when you're one on one with them in the real world and although some of the comments in skywaym4n's sales had me falling off my seat, some I felt were bang out of order. I thought most of us here were meant to be mature and pretty responsible but the heat of the situation seemed to raise the temperatures on keyboards.  ;)

That said, it's been an entertaining few days on EastRadSters.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Pooch on March 17, 2012, 07:30 PM
Herein lies the problem.  There's not much moral integrity and a lot of hypocrisy on here at times from some people.  I've seen people slag off others to no end......until they list something they want to buy, when it returns to 'mate' status.

Desperation is a sad thing to behold

Gotta say I've felt like radman all week (no not Lee and I don't want to feel him  :crazy2: ) but so many people have PM'd me and said 'get ready for the 'hi mate' and 'I live you comments'. :LolLolLolLol:

Seriously though, although I've made profit on what I've been luckily enough to get hold of, my main priority was to sell fairly, honestly and at a price that people are comfortable with and to members here and on my own forum. I think if you want more money and maximum gain then Ebay is the way.

I can't remember in such a small space of time when I've read so much abuse on here in Sales threads, which is a shame really and I'm sure much of it comes from the demand for high prices and the rarity of original parts.

Let's hope it settles down quickly and doesn't spill over or hang around by the time MK arrives. :daumenhoch:


I really love you though :-*
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: sparky on March 17, 2012, 07:33 PM
Herein lies the problem.  There's not much moral integrity and a lot of hypocrisy on here at times from some people.  I've seen people slag off others to no end......until they list something they want to buy, when it returns to 'mate' status.

Desperation is a sad thing to behold

Gotta say I've felt like radman all week (no not Lee and I don't want to feel him  :crazy2: ) but so many people have PM'd me and said 'get ready for the 'hi mate' and 'I live you comments'. :LolLolLolLol:

Seriously though, although I've made profit on what I've been luckily enough to get hold of, my main priority was to sell fairly, honestly and at a price that people are comfortable with and to members here and on my own forum. I think if you want more money and maximum gain then Ebay is the way.

I can't remember in such a small space of time when I've read so much abuse on here in Sales threads, which is a shame really and I'm sure much of it comes from the demand for high prices and the rarity of original parts.

Let's hope it settles down quickly and doesn't spill over or hang around by the time MK arrives. :daumenhoch:


I really love you though :-*

I've already replied to all your PM's and said I'm married.  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Jt on March 17, 2012, 08:08 PM
You shoot straight.

That's all a man can ask.
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: ozone on March 17, 2012, 09:10 PM
You could have waited until I bought the uber-rare 2001 Tuffs off of him.   >:(

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx268/skywayman/Parts%20For%20Sale%2012032012/file-46.jpg)

Heavy handed modding has cost me dearly.   :'(
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: pkripster on March 17, 2012, 09:14 PM
there cack mate what u talking bout :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Dark Diggler on March 17, 2012, 09:15 PM
How inconsiderate of everyone
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Discostu on March 17, 2012, 09:27 PM
If he has gone. How come it still shows up that he is online?

I say good riddance. I hope he is man enough to turn up to the London ride.   :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: ozone on March 17, 2012, 09:44 PM
there cack mate what u talking bout :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

Joking, obviously.  I don't think the rear flange is a Rad Kap BTW.  It looks like a steel flange from a Skyway (Suntour) coaster hub, hence the rust.  The front interests me more as there are no close ups of it - I'm pretty sure that is also a placcy hubbed rear Tuff which has had the gubbins chopped out of it so the flanges are attached to fresh air.   :shocked:

Death traps IMO.   :police:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: griff on March 17, 2012, 09:54 PM
If he has gone. How come it still shows up that he is online?

I say good riddance. I hope he is man enough to turn up to the London ride.   :knuppel2:

calm down stu - no need to get medieval on his ass (now that would be a site to behold)

trying (very hard) to see things from skywaymaaan's point of view, I think that maybe he just didn't really know that much about what he was selling and hence some of the prices were way off e.g. asking what a bubblefont was  :D
but where he fooked up though was being arsey with his potential client base on here - makes me wonder why the guy who owned the stuff didn't just ebay it or get someone more savvy to do it for him...

look at dannyd's finds for example - he finds some stuff cheap, keeps some stuff for himself and even went as far as to say how much he paid  :shocked:
don't see anyone on here taking the piss on his sale threads as he comes across genuine (he even despatched a GT post to me before I'd had time to pay for it!)
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: jimwise68 on March 17, 2012, 10:06 PM
lol this has been interesting viewing.  :LolLolLolLol:

He has items for sale, he puts them up for what he wants for them and you decide to buy them or not. Simple as that.

Ok its fair enough to try and let him know market values but who determines those. this hobby is getting ridiculous in terms of costing as people are coming into it now thinking they have tapped into a goldmine. Unfortunately newbies will think these are the going prices and pay them, which in turn will push the other values up. Hopefully it will make us realise how stupid some prices are getting and bring them back down to their real values. Also, people are finding less disposable income to spend on lifes luxuries which will also help to lower prices (we can only hope).
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Jt on March 17, 2012, 10:21 PM
There is is supply and demand, and then there is out and out greed.





Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Clean on March 17, 2012, 10:23 PM
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Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Jt on March 17, 2012, 10:25 PM
Nothing to see here bud ( I hope)  ;D
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: superbikedan on March 17, 2012, 10:33 PM
from my point of view, my prices hav'nt changed in 7 + years but i've noticed new customers

sending me frames to paint that are a pile of shite and thinking there going to make a killing ,

my latest one,chrome frame turns up rusty as fook so has to be dechromed at £40 then my charge

£50 so he's now £90 out of pocket and the frame is worth no more than £50 tops  ;D

just greed and good luck when he tries to sell it :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Discostu on March 17, 2012, 10:44 PM
Although a large part of the threads over the last couple of days have been some of the most funniest I've ever read on here. I do think it has high lighted the high price problem and people that are only in it to inflate prices and make a quick buck. On a good point the moderators are getting to see members feelings on the issue. This can surely only be good for the genuine users. The rip off merchants will soon learn that they are wasting their time trying to sell on here.  :daumenhoch:

And I think the actions by the moderators were backed by the users.  :police: :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Gashead on March 17, 2012, 10:45 PM
thank you  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: stevesredvxr on March 17, 2012, 11:10 PM
Here, here.  :daumenhoch:

Sold my stem on here last month only to have some greedy fecker stick it on the bay the very day it landed at his house. It sold for 40 quid more than he paid.
Had bartered me down too on a pm.  :knuppel2:

Glad to see this kind of thing will no longer be tolerated on the site.

Well done mods.

Steve
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Discostu on March 17, 2012, 11:25 PM
I think it would be a good opertunity to add this to the selling rules. Not sure how it will work. But I'm sure we could all debate over a thread on it. And throw some ideas into the pot for the mods to dwell over. Remember several ideas are better than one.  

Im thinking that if we join the site as a site supporter so we can buy and sell. We should complete a registration where we have to fill in lots of details. So the mods can pass on information if required on a sour deal. Like eBay does. The thing is if your a genuine member of this site you will have no problem showing this info. Where as the scammers will be less interested. What info you ask for is another debate.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: neil on March 17, 2012, 11:27 PM
have to say its good to see :daumenhoch: i live by the idea of treat people how you would like to be treated by them,i always try to sell at the price i paid for it...if i can remember :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: rollin72 on March 17, 2012, 11:33 PM
I dont think you need to change anything, the majority of sales on here go as they should, when something dodgy happens it's pretty clear to everyone, prices are what they are if dont agree dont buy
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on March 17, 2012, 11:42 PM
I live by the idea of treat people how you would like to be treated by them and I always try to sell at the price i paid for it...if i can remember
My sentiments entirely although some disagree for whatever reason  :-\ I receive email confirmations of all my paypal transactions which are then stored on my PC. Excellent reference for selling items that I don't have use for :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: stu27 on March 17, 2012, 11:44 PM
maybe get rid of the sale section
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on March 17, 2012, 11:45 PM
I dont think you need to change anything, the majority of sales on here go as they should, when something dodgy happens it's pretty clear to everyone, prices are what they are if dont agree dont buy
Unfortunately bro, whenever there is a large stack of items up for sale, it becomes like a Shark frenzy which in turn, just gets out hand, as we have seen in the last 2 days  ::)
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: rollin72 on March 17, 2012, 11:52 PM
I dont think you need to change anything, the majority of sales on here go as they should, when something dodgy happens it's pretty clear to everyone, prices are what they are if dont agree dont buy
Unfortunately bro, whenever there is a large stack of items up for sale, it becomes like a Shark frenzy which in turn, just gets out hand, as we have seen in last 2 days.
im refering more to the Changa sale as being dodgy, I didnt really agree with the way Skywaym4n got slated, just dont buy the stuff he'll soon get the message
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Peter J on March 17, 2012, 11:54 PM
And I know where of a few of ya live  :coolsmiley:

So if you try and rip off a "newbie"




I'll bum ya sensless  :bondage:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on March 17, 2012, 11:57 PM
I dont think you need to change anything, the majority of sales on here go as they should, when something dodgy happens it's pretty clear to everyone, prices are what they are if dont agree dont buy

I have to say the database of site supporters contact details etc held by us isn't a bad suggestion!

I think you need to looking at individuals rights such as data and identity protection. Not sure if your site is secure enough for such a database or within the boundaries of the law to hold such a database.
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Discostu on March 18, 2012, 12:03 AM
Rollin I wasn't saying things should be changed.
All I think is there should be advise in the rules to let sellers know that unreasonable high price threads won't be tolerated. Stating that if it appears your for sale thread has extremely high prices and this has been pointed out to you by several members. Then you need to think about lowering your prices. Or asking if you are out on the price. If this doesn't happen then state that there is a good chance your for sale thread might be pulled.

The other thing I was saying is. A couple of members recently have sold stuff on here to other members for mates rates only to find it put up straight away on eBay or the museum. I think this needs to be looked into as I personally think this shouldn't be tolerated. Now I know this is hard. But if it is in the rules and a ban for an offender is what you get. It stops it happening to other rad members.

The thing is I commend you guys that want to post up your stuff for sale for the price you bought it or a good price for today. But surely writing that in these threads is inviting these rip off newbies to turn you over for a quick profit.

I hope you see where I'm coming from.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: rollin72 on March 18, 2012, 12:23 AM
fair comment Stu, the things that have happened in the past month have highlighted there is a growing problem, good luck in trying to restore order Mods
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Discostu on March 18, 2012, 12:51 AM
Ok here is a suggestion. You cannot access the for sale threads until your a site supporter. Just as it is now.  But then you are not permitted to buy or sell anything until you have at least 2 stars. That way if you want anything you have to get a member with 2 stars or more to buy it for you. Letting the seller know what he is doing.  The same if you want to sell something. Then if the items are found to be sold on within weeks for a big profit. Then both people will be in trouble and may end up with a ban or a suspension.

The thing is not all newbies are trouble and up for making a quick buck. Most are very interested in the site and old school bmx and have been introduced by a current rad member. So if they want something then it's up to there mate to honour the sale. As its one thing saying I know him he's genuine. And another doing his business whilst he earns his stars.   The genuine interested newbies will stick it out. The rip off merchants will have realise their on a hiding to nothing.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: boofy44 on March 18, 2012, 01:01 AM
dunno about other members but if i have stuff for sale on here i wont sell it to non
site supporters.dont care if they dib first,its only a tenner on here so fcuk em.
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Discostu on March 18, 2012, 01:05 AM
I think selling stuff to non site supporters shouldn't be allowed. If you do and it goes sour. Then fool on you.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: neil on March 18, 2012, 01:09 AM
is there a way to stop non site supporters even veiwing the forsale section?
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Discostu on March 18, 2012, 01:23 AM
Yeah non site supporters can't view the for sale threads. But that doesn't stop them asking for stuff they need or advise on price of stuff they have, in other threads.  :daumenhoch:

You normally find a thread that has a few pics with the saying what is this and what it's worth is gonna turn into a glorified for sale thread.  Especially if the stuff is rare. The newbie then fooks off with his money never to be seen again. Having not paid any money into the rad kitty. Basically just using the site for profit.   :(
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: pkripster on March 18, 2012, 01:25 AM
yeah certain person on here kept pm ing me and well he knows who he is  anyway :wtf: he was non supporter he kept threating me ;D ;D ;D :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: to
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: pkripster on March 18, 2012, 01:30 AM
yeah they say can i dibb for mate then turn out to be meesers :wtf:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Jt on March 18, 2012, 07:41 AM
For sale section works just fine.

If everyone Uses their common sense, there are rarely  problems in my opinion.
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Gashead on March 18, 2012, 07:47 AM
Agreed, works fine most of the time  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: WINI on March 18, 2012, 07:57 AM
It works fine in itself, it's people that fcuk it up.
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: sparky on March 18, 2012, 08:11 AM
The majority of the time Sales go fine but I think there has to be a line drawn how people comment towards prices they do not agree with. It's very easy to get carried away and embroiled with other member grievances but I appreciate that some of the warnings can also deter the unsuspecting or newer members (we've all been there) and there in nothing wrong with looking out for people. I don't think that blocking access to the For Sale section is the answer for people who are not 'Site Supporters', because this will restrict the sellers advertisement and right for all to see what he has for sale and might have a detrimental effect.

This place has a history of barking in sale threads if people feel a member is stepping over the mark 'but this can also be a personal perception and not always appreciated', and usually Moderators have allowed the discussions to continue to a point of taking action, I think that's good that it continues that way. If something is removed too hastily, we lose the opportunity to see those lines members take offence to (unless of course the language and personal abuse requires immediate action).

I still think any sales comes down to two simple things, courtesy and good communication coupled with prices that are in reach of us all, wherever possible.  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: stevesredvxr on March 18, 2012, 08:17 AM
I agree that the for sale section works perfectly for 99% of members.

But when someone blatantly comes on here just to buy things cheaply and stick the the items straight on ebay to make profit, for their own greedy benifit,
then this needs, I believe, highlighting and the member dealing with.

Why should people like this dib stuff, take it out of the circle and make a profit?

For those who don't agree, what about this scenario:

You are looking for a specific part and you have been for months, you log on one day to see the elusive part in the for sale section only to notice it has been dibbed by someone else.
The very next week you are still trawling around for the part when, hey presto, you see one on ebay.........only to realise it's the same one that was on RAD.....for way more.  :2gunsfiring_v1:
You either buy it at an inflated price or leave it well alone..but this is gonna pee you off isnt it?
And when you check his ebay feedback and his past posts you realise he is a 'serial dibber'.............. :knuppel2:

Not fair is it? This is why I highlighted the guy who bought and sold the stem off me and made a tidy profit. He was doing it to us all.  :-\

Just my thoughts anyway. Maybe when you've had it done to you then you'd realise how annoyed you would be.

Steve
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: ED209 on March 18, 2012, 08:19 AM
The majority of the time Sales go fine but I think there has to be a line drawn how people comment towards prices they do not agree with. It's very easy to get carried away and embroiled with other member grievances but I appreciate that some of the warnings can also deter the unsuspecting or newer members (we've all been there) and there in nothing wrong with looking out for people. I don't think that blocking access to the For Sale section is the answer for people who are not 'Site Supporters', because this will restrict the sellers advertisement and right for all to see what he has for sale and might have a detrimental effect.

This place has a history of barking in sale threads if people feel a member is stepping over the mark 'but this can also be a personal perception and not always appreciated', and usually Moderators have allowed the discussions to continue to a point of taking action, I think that's good that it continues that way. If something is removed too hastily, we lose the opportunity to see those lines members take offence to (unless of course the language and personal abuse requires immediate action).

I still think any sales comes down to two simple things, courtesy and good communication coupled with prices that are in reach of us all, wherever possible.  :daumenhoch:



wow x2 to all that  :daumenhoch:

cheers Sparky  :4_17_5:

Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: jT Racing on March 18, 2012, 11:29 AM
It's a forum, on a forum there are 2 options, comments on, comments off.  Policing what is said is impossible because it's opinion against opinion and who is right? Nobody? When idiots get weeded out, it's by majority dissaproval.
We like to talk about it, we like to talk about the talking about it. Everybody has a comment or solution but there is no solution and there will always be comments. Why people believe that there should be some happy happy, never a crossed word, back slapping matey matey utopia is beyond me. Why should this place be any different than offline.
When you stick out above the crowd, you catch more wind. Live with it or climb back down.
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Jt on March 18, 2012, 12:13 PM
It's a forum, on a forum there are 2 options, comments on, comments off.  Policing what is said is impossible because it's opinion against opinion and who is right? Nobody? When idiots get weeded out, it's by majority dissaproval.
We like to talk about it, we like to talk about the talking about it. Everybody has a comment or solution but there is no solution and there will always be comments. Why people believe that there should be some happy happy, never a crossed word, back slapping matey matey utopia is beyond me. Why should this place be any different than offline.
When you stick out above the crowd, you catch more wind. Live with it or climb back down.


Yeah, and you can fook off en all.....
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: mark 2 on March 18, 2012, 12:43 PM
It's a forum, on a forum there are 2 options, comments on, comments off.  Policing what is said is impossible because it's opinion against opinion and who is right? Nobody? When idiots get weeded out, it's by majority dissaproval.
We like to talk about it, we like to talk about the talking about it. Everybody has a comment or solution but there is no solution and there will always be comments. Why people believe that there should be some happy happy, never a crossed word, back slapping matey matey utopia is beyond me. Why should this place be any different than offline.
When you stick out above the crowd, you catch more wind. Live with it or climb back down.


I'd like to hear a Jamaican toasting that over some dub.  Roots!
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: griff on March 18, 2012, 03:15 PM
what about a secret VIP section where only people paying for an extra site tag are allowed to go and do secret sweet deals at best mate prices?






 ;D


I think it works fine as it is really
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Discostu on March 18, 2012, 03:18 PM
I'm in the secret VIP area already griff are you not in that circle of users?   :daumenhoch: ;) :2funny:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: dordymush on March 18, 2012, 03:19 PM
are ya ???
iv'e not seen you in there  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Discostu on March 18, 2012, 04:08 PM
Dordy you know our names change when we enter the rad inner circle.   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: jT Racing on March 18, 2012, 04:14 PM
It's a forum, on a forum there are 2 options, comments on, comments off.  Policing what is said is impossible because it's opinion against opinion and who is right? Nobody? When idiots get weeded out, it's by majority dissaproval.
We like to talk about it, we like to talk about the talking about it. Everybody has a comment or solution but there is no solution and there will always be comments. Why people believe that there should be some happy happy, never a crossed word, back slapping matey matey utopia is beyond me. Why should this place be any different than offline.
When you stick out above the crowd, you catch more wind. Live with it or climb back down.


Yeah, and you can fook off en all.....


 :'( :yahoo_silent:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Jt on March 18, 2012, 09:18 PM
Love you really, you old sage you.
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Badbaldie on March 18, 2012, 09:49 PM
just feel ive got to say something here guys, re skyway mans thread that got pulled. i hold my hands up and apologies if i upset people with my "spat" i did step over the mark maybe .  .....  as some have said his prices were high and thats his choice if you dont like then simply dont buy and I AGREE WITH THAT. but if you was on line and reading the way the thread was going . some of his pics were misleading , and when questioned about them he got a bit agressive himself. but the final straw for me was when he posted upa pic of sum guy he had "modified" and got personal towards him. at that point his sale thread went from being a "chancers get rid of stuff at silly prices "to a lets get personal and agressive and lets cause trouble. that just wasnt on in my opinion ,so rightfully or wrongfully i gave him a little of bit of his own medicine with sum of the cuff coment. which he didnt like then decided to go of line sulking. sum may have found what i said "wrong and a little to much " sum may have scean the funny side..... i certainly didnt mean to upset other members of rad  :daumenhoch:   i did recieve a few pms that night none of them negative . anyway enough said
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Jt on March 18, 2012, 10:05 PM
That shit he posted about lee madz was out of order, and just showed him up a bit more.

He's gone, good riddance, That's my opinion and we've all got one.

I don't think anyone has any real regrets about what happened, as no matter what kind of guy he really is, he was fully blown taking the piss on here, so he was removed from being on here.

Good luck to everyone is where I'm at.Treat people how you expect to be treated yourself.

What's done is done.
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: rollin72 on March 18, 2012, 10:08 PM
is offline the new online :D
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: oldschoolib on March 18, 2012, 10:21 PM
just read all of this thread and thought that rad was free speech, free acting site, ive no connection to the guy selling the stuff or want or bought any of it but i was under the impression that if someone put something up for sale its his/her choice on price/ description if you read the posts in the thread  its as though he got torn a new ass hole cause everyone didnt agree with his prices, surely if no one commented, his prices would have come down to a more reasonable level by proxy, bottom line is does anyone one on rad have any idea what things are worth in this day and age, especially something someone really wants, should there be a rough rad guide on old school bmx parts as a sticky in the for sale section, just a thought from another point of view
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: rick1970 on March 18, 2012, 10:31 PM
Bloody kids bicycles   30 years on   :10_2_12:     :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Jt on March 18, 2012, 10:36 PM
There is more to the story than meets the eye..

History, bad blood, comments on another forum.

It wasn't just about the prices. They were just the catalyst.

Example. The 450 monkey bars are now 250 quid on eBay (or best offer)

Reality has bitten.

Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Gashead on March 18, 2012, 10:47 PM
The over inflated prices was just the tip of the iceberg and further circumstances led to this ban, which to be honest, I don't need to share, as some of it has been told.



However in the interest and protection of Rad members and their dosh, the chap was removed from the site  :police:


He was given a chance after a warning in 2011, however chose to ignore it !
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Gashead on March 18, 2012, 11:00 PM
And this chap wanted you to pay £450 for these ..........................



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VDC-Changa-Monkey-Handlebars-Old-School-BMX-fit-Skyway-Haro-Redline-Mongoose-/190654570448?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2c63e5dfd0



£550 for this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Haro-Gen-1-Copy-Vintage-1984-Old-School-Freestyle-BMX-Master-Bob-Skyway-Gen-2-/190654197719?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2c63e02fd7





and the prospect of you ever receiving them........................................................


I'll say no more !


Like I said , your protection.


Make your own mind up  :angel:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on March 18, 2012, 11:06 PM
the guy was banned from BW and nearly RB - just as i left (to which i was a mod on there)

he then followed me around on here and started up shite, along with another member who was banned on different sites and told to behave his ways

the word PARASITE and COOKCOO spring to mind

he got out of depth on what he was selling and then bad mouthed members when pointing out things - not the best way the win friends and influence people

i think threads like this show the people who care about BMX and not just the profit to be made - we may not all agree the way it went or what has been said - but it does show a passion on here to keep it good for the members who care about BMX  
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on March 18, 2012, 11:07 PM
Gashead  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Discostu on March 18, 2012, 11:10 PM
Well said trigger-cat  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Gashead on March 18, 2012, 11:16 PM
 :daumenhoch:


I don't need another Blue Peter badge  :LolLolLolLol:


I will lock this down when I go to bed as we have seen what's happened and we know the score...............


As Sargent Jablonski once said.............................'Hey, lets be careful out there'



 :police:
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on March 18, 2012, 11:20 PM
I thought was "do it to them before they do it to you" ?  ???
Title: Re: Another Skywaym4N Thread pulled???
Post by: Gashead on March 18, 2012, 11:23 PM
He did

and Belker said


Sit there hairball


Night folks, shows over !
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