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Title: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: jimmyp on January 18, 2010, 12:14 PM: Ok dudes lets get this show on the road. :daumenhoch:

You have till Thursday 11:59pm to make your case for your prefferd item :)

Then voting will start on Friday at 12:00am and run till Sunday 11:59pm :)

All sugestions will go through to the vote off to find the best paticular part for RAD'S Ultimate Old School BMX :daumenhoch:

First item we'll be debating on will be HANDLEBARS :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on January 18, 2010, 12:24 PM: GT Pro bars, the very best bars for all in 83/84, Gt was a massive exotic brand in my neighbourhood, and the closest you could get to them were the bars, and your bike was elevated to some new level with Gt bars on it, my Aero Burner got Gt bars on late 85, a hand me down from our kid, and what did he replace them with, yep GT Pro bars, they also look mint to.

They were that good, they built the bars for other brands to :4_17_5:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p88/dirtbiker250f/gt5-2.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p88/dirtbiker250f/Snapshot2008-11-1823-48-51.jpg)
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: donkeybambam on January 18, 2010, 12:47 PM: agree, :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Zippy on January 18, 2010, 12:58 PM: I'd agree. My AP ha GT Pro bars fitted.
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Waxintaxin on January 18, 2010, 01:04 PM: Monkey bars by VDC
exotic shape , great size and really nice geometry. The daddy of bars bitd and a real rare item today make for the classic icon of bars
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: jimmyp on January 18, 2010, 01:07 PM: Get some pics up dudes just so people can see which ones you are talking about, thanks ;)
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: mark 2 on January 18, 2010, 01:11 PM: I'm into the Monkey bars too but GT's for sure are a good solid all rounder that lend themselves to a lot of bikes without looking out of place. Versatile and quality. But a safe option?

Monkey bars could be the thinking mans crumpet.

* Any JMC bars worth a thought?
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Zippy on January 18, 2010, 01:14 PM: I never even heard of VDC or monkey bars bitd. :(

Different areas of the country had they're own prefrences as well so I'm sure we'll have some oddities crop up.
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on January 18, 2010, 01:21 PM: No safe option where Pro Bars are concerned, they were the very best Bars b.i.t.d, i agree monkey bars maybe rare, but they are uglier than a dogs clinkers and not exactly super race either :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: pickle on January 18, 2010, 01:22 PM: what about the humble CW bars? from what i remember BITD we all tried em at some point (copies anyway) but i guess for geometry and kudos i would agree with the GT bars.

although for me, my preference would be Ron C bars by MCS :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: southern andy on January 18, 2010, 01:22 PM: JMC Darrell Young for me i reckon. Not too big and definitely the right shape for racing.

I've never owned GT bars so i can't agree but i've owned JMC's. :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: bobafett on January 18, 2010, 01:23 PM: Hmmmm I love Pro-Class (pro-size chro-mo) bars and I love the GT (pro-size) on my rider but............

Due to my love of building gusset geese it has to be mongoose stainless steel bars :smitten:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: donnydresser on January 18, 2010, 01:23 PM: gt bars or a set of C Ws both the boss bars bitd
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Swivel on January 18, 2010, 01:29 PM: Both CW and GT bars were tops, also VDC Monkeychops also were very nice, still are :smitten:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: mark 2 on January 18, 2010, 01:53 PM: Did you know Monkey Bars were based on CW's? VDC made the design first and thought they were shit. The CW guy saw them dumped on the floor at VDC and asked if he could have them. Produced them and sold heaps. Off the back of the success VDC made them but with the pierced tubes. Thus, the Monkey Bars....
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: bigsman on January 18, 2010, 01:59 PM: Got to be CWs...

Everybody I knew back then (who raced) upgraded to either them or copies of them. I was a lanky scrote even in my teens and cdubs on the fairly short frames I owned were what made them rideable and raceable. The only bars that really made your bike feel roomier and 'bigger'.

VDC...no-one I knew had them or knew of them. GT...everyone had heard of but I don't remember many - if any upgrading to them! Exotic yeh - but not 'the ones' back then... :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: electobooty on January 18, 2010, 02:02 PM: always liked renthal bars on a race bike
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Peter J on January 18, 2010, 02:04 PM: Quote from: electrobooty on January 18, 2010, 02:02 PM
always liked renthal bars on a race bike

I agree, round my neck of the woods we all used them BITD :smitten:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Tim38 on January 18, 2010, 02:13 PM: Quote from: Peter J on January 18, 2010, 02:04 PM
Quote from: electrobooty on January 18, 2010, 02:02 PM
always liked renthal bars on a race bike

I agree, round my neck of the woods we all used them BITD :smitten:
we all used to have renthals round my way bitd
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Bigfrawg on January 18, 2010, 02:14 PM: renthals :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: jT Racing on January 18, 2010, 02:31 PM: GT, who the fook are vdc? some obscure thing out a magazine B.I.T.D to most of us. CW's were everywhere too but weren't the prettiest. monkey bars with the silly pierced tubing are ugly as pierced eyes
(http://www.liquisdesign.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/funny-face2.jpg)
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: jimmyp on January 18, 2010, 03:05 PM: Quote from: electrobooty on January 18, 2010, 02:02 PM
always liked renthal bars on a race bike

:daumenhoch:

Im torn between Renthal or Gt Pro :-\
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: boofy44 on January 18, 2010, 03:37 PM: had cw's and swapped them for some gt pro's.far happier
with the gt's.
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on January 18, 2010, 03:51 PM: cw
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on January 18, 2010, 03:52 PM: Quote from: QUADROPHENIA on January 18, 2010, 03:51 PM

cw

:Aresehole:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: moley on January 18, 2010, 04:03 PM: CW's (or copies)

Everyone around my way had them BITD including me.

If the Ultimate OS BMX is about what most kids wanted/used BITD then its CW.

If its about the rarest/most expensive/money no object/only seen in adverts parts then monkey bars.
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on January 18, 2010, 04:06 PM: ^^^moley you are hardly ever wrong, alas this is one of them times me auld mucka :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: moley on January 18, 2010, 04:15 PM: Quote from: DB250F on January 18, 2010, 04:06 PM
^^^moley you are hardly ever wrong, alas this is one of them times me auld mucka :LolLolLolLol:

I loved my CW's :LolLolLolLol:

They were better than my Falcon Pro V bars and they ended up on every frameset I had afterwards!! :)

So feck off!! :D

PS. They were fooking big and they wouldn't clear my seat even with a layback........HUGE!! :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Moose on January 18, 2010, 04:15 PM: I think the most common were CW's but I'd say that was on the street, the question should be, would CW's be the 'ultimate' (ie the best) race bar? Probably not.

Skyway pro bars anyone ? ???
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: WARDY on January 18, 2010, 04:39 PM: gt pro bars
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Waxintaxin on January 18, 2010, 04:42 PM: GT bars were the same as many many standard type bars , robinson,GT , skyway, all used the same type of design and as such were not the ultimate

I guess its what are we building here a ultimate bike or what everybody had bike.
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: dordymush on January 18, 2010, 04:55 PM: i aint really a lover of anything vdc so for me i'd say it'd be close GT pro bars and CW's as thats what andy patterson rode and he was god to me back in the day :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on January 18, 2010, 04:59 PM: I was going to say, were not all the other similar bars to GT Pro bars just based on the GT Pro bar. I may be wrong here but were GT Pro bars the original of the similar design's or were they ones that looke similar before the gt ones ?

Although Rich you are onto something there, is this the bars you would want b.i.t.d or are we talking just the best bars ? i may change my GT Pro bars for pro STAR BARS, as they are currently my fav bars
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: monkian on January 18, 2010, 05:02 PM: I guess the criteria could be something like (in no paticular order): Usability, Desirability & Aesthetics ???
As a nice balance between the three I'd go for Renthal Bars :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: jimmyp on January 18, 2010, 06:27 PM: It just comes down to what you think is the best for whatever reason you think its the best for :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on January 18, 2010, 06:33 PM: Ok then, PRO STAR BARS
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: electobooty on January 18, 2010, 09:08 PM: got to be renthals then, freestyle is another thread :crazy2:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Waxintaxin on January 18, 2010, 09:14 PM: so is that pro, star bars
or pro star bars

::)

ok i changed my mind i now have decided to go for CWs ,iconic and attainabale
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: magna13 on January 18, 2010, 09:15 PM: Too go with the guys on who's voted with GT Pro Bars, i think we should go for that little extra bit of spice and rarity in fiting some GT 'Andy Patterson' Bars, a very rare bar and are not seen alot on builds, very different and look :smitten:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: motomagII on January 18, 2010, 09:16 PM: most popular bars has to be cws everyone in my area had or got them (mostly copies mind)best bars ive ridden old school has to be gt pro bars for sure
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: jimmyp on January 18, 2010, 11:16 PM: Quote from: Waxintaxin on January 18, 2010, 09:14 PM
so is that pro, star bars
or pro star bars

::)

ok i changed my mind i now have decided to go for CWs ,iconic and attainabale

Alot of people changing there minds already, its only monday :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: donkeybambam on January 19, 2010, 07:06 AM: cws were the dogs when we were younger......you had to have them. :4_17_5:

i always wanted gt bars though......
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: martylaa on January 19, 2010, 07:23 AM: GT bars for me, remember seeing CW bars for the first time and thinking WTF.......
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: tigerbrown on January 19, 2010, 08:29 AM: cw's are the finest bar as long as you ride with your eyes shut...

What I mean by that is they're just the right size but look very strange/ugly compared to most bars...

Although on the skyway street thrashing advert they look perfect

hmmm just contradicted meself there a little :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: antiquebmx on January 19, 2010, 10:40 AM: so is it race or freestyle, or just a mix to get best bike??

JMC bars got to be

haro vectors also, but then we wouldnt have the stem debate
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Jon The Bassist on January 19, 2010, 10:57 AM: I wouldn't vote for CW as I snapped a pair of their cruiser bars when gating - not exactly serious abuse!
I had no problem with the size/shape of them though.
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: jimmyp on January 19, 2010, 11:26 AM: Quote from: antiquebmx on January 19, 2010, 10:40 AM
so is it race or freestyle, or just a mix to get best bike??

JMC bars got to be

haro vectors also, but then we wouldnt have the stem debate

Just to let everyone know this is for a race bike only, we can do freestyle when we've finnished the race bike, thanks :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: 58 delray on January 19, 2010, 11:27 AM: VDC's and CW's look and feel crap imo, for me it's got to be SE Powerwings or GT pro bars both of which i currently use
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: telelogic on January 19, 2010, 06:15 PM: I have no strong opinion either way, However, when I first got into bmx in the early 80's the CW bars just looked the part.

they where kind of exotic :D
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: jT Racing on January 20, 2010, 01:21 AM: i liked renthals bitd.
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: monkian on January 20, 2010, 02:29 PM: So no shouts for Pro-Class, Laserbars or Hutch Pro's so far ???
I think Galindo GX bars also look nice :) GT seem to have this one locked down :)
When do we get to decide?
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: moley on January 20, 2010, 02:45 PM: I liked my Pro-class bars that I used when I first started OS racing!!

A bit flexy though but I am a fat cnut!! ;D
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: jimmyp on January 20, 2010, 02:48 PM: Quote from: monkian on January 20, 2010, 02:29 PM
So no shouts for Pro-Class, Laserbars or Hutch Pro's so far ???
I think Galindo GX bars also look nice :) GT seem to have this one locked down :)
When do we get to decide?

Voting starts friday 12am
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Sparky24 on January 20, 2010, 05:57 PM: GT bars get my vote.
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: jT Racing on January 20, 2010, 07:34 PM: what about monkey bars

(http://www.contemporaryartsociety.org/media/uploads/2009/06/1660/w588-benlong-horse-scaffolding-sculpture-detail-02-jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: bobafett on January 20, 2010, 09:20 PM: Quote from: jimmyp on January 20, 2010, 02:48 PM

Voting starts friday 12am

:shocked:

Won't this "ultimate" bike take months at that rate ? ???

:-\
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: pickle on January 21, 2010, 07:56 AM: you just can't rush perfection :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: monkian on January 21, 2010, 11:43 AM: Be great if this could be built somehow ???
Perhaps from donor parts from members and put in a Raffle to cover costs ???
Any extra could go to the site / charity ???

Nightmare to organize but worth a thought ;) :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Juju on January 21, 2010, 05:52 PM: 4 pages and no mention of Redline's original V bars?

*The* first non standard shape for an engineering reason. Think how many manufacturers like Raliigh, Pirahana at the lower end made v bars to replicate the distinctive shape.

Renthals were later and tbh in my mind, irrertrievably linked to Mongoose, and so fail my test, and CW after that. CW's were everywhere, like spew at a teenage cider party.

V bars, the original bmx shaped bar copied by everyone.....
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: jimmyp on January 22, 2010, 01:03 AM: GET YOU VOTE IN NOW :daumenhoch:

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=102219.0
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: Lee Shurey on January 22, 2010, 05:48 PM: Got to be GT Pro :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Ok lets build the Ultimate Old School BMX (As Voted For by RAD Members)
Post by: boofy44 on January 22, 2010, 10:25 PM: like the look of chrome galindo's.got some on me lazerlite but its got to be GT pro's for me.