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Title: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: subwax on August 15, 2005, 06:11 PM
I, as a completely unbiased bystander ( ;)), would like to see Biagio answer the question on whether or not he has been asking fellow members to shill bid on his auctions as he did not feel that they were going for what he wanted them too.

I dont think this question is contrary to any rule, and the answer is important to the BMX community as a whole, so please let the man speak.

Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: subwax on August 15, 2005, 06:27 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: subwax on August 15, 2005, 06:29 PM
Cant be long before this one is closed off too.

I cannot understand why he cant answer the question - there might be a perfectly good and reasonable answer to this - but I dount it!

He must absolutely HATE me at the moment - bless him!
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: billstup on August 15, 2005, 06:31 PM
This one won`t be locked, but I think your just talking to yourselfs. :(
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: subwax on August 15, 2005, 06:32 PM
Probably, Bill - at least I like the answers!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Rombloke on August 15, 2005, 06:44 PM
two pebbles and a bag of gravel for only a sheckle

thats cheap

Dave
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: subwax on August 15, 2005, 07:05 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, gravel
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: graeme on August 15, 2005, 07:08 PM
please dont think i am just messing about and stirring shit. regardless of what i think about biagio i think that this is a question that needs answered. personally i know the answer,   you guys that have biagio in high esteem then think again. its weird how biagio was happy to answer comments and questions before but is now very quiet, maybe he is not quite sure what i actually know.
graeme
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Rombloke on August 15, 2005, 07:13 PM
greame, come on dude....he is in a no win situation....if he answers either way you will try to bury him alive in banter...

upside down on your first day...you lucky b_stard

Dave
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: OrgasmDonor on August 15, 2005, 07:25 PM
a bit of banter never hurt anybody, besides its all good fun ;D
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: graeme on August 15, 2005, 07:26 PM
dave i dont think its a win or lose question, i dont expect him to admit it.  i bet folks are just saying, there goes graeme having a pop at biagio again.  but please ask yourself... what have i got to gain by asking this. i couldnt give a toss about biagio really, how much money he makes or what he has to sell. i am just trying to warn the community about this, hopefully people will see him for the person he really is.  do people think that the folk who are saying these things about biagio are just making it all up??  
graeme
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: subwax on August 15, 2005, 07:32 PM
I dont know that he is in a no win situation - if it is not true, he can say so. I presume though that he is in a bit of a situation now, because the person he "alledgedly" asked has mentioned it to someone else, etc, etc, and it has come full circle on him.

Please remember that, far from being an innocent party, Biagio has certainly given as good as he has got, although I think that resorting to calling people "off the rails" is a little juvenile, but that is my personal opinion. He should be given the opportunity to defend himself, and that of his business, against these serious accusations, and I believe this form to be that opportunity.
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: dordymush on August 15, 2005, 07:39 PM
men im not sticking up for one side or the other. but would you be happy if the fella's business went bust over this  ???.the way im looking at it is i've only brought one thing of the fella.he was the cheapest and swapped some of the parts in the kit to help me out.i speak as i find.so just my opinion on the matter.
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: subwax on August 15, 2005, 07:47 PM
I know that my feelings towards Biagio are not a secret, and vice versa, I am sure, but this is a serious accusation of cheating and ripping off the entire BMX community - can you really say you're not interested? 62 people so far are interested, and the number grows. I would like to see what he has to say for himself. I am not his accuser, and i know nothing of it bar rumour and conjecture, although I will say I am positive that Graeme, being the kind of guy he is, is not going to make things up like that at all.

Anyways - you lot are probably well tired of hearing my rantings, so I will leave in to Biagio to explain.
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Mattskybeat on August 15, 2005, 08:10 PM
if the price is higher than you want to bid, then dont !!!
is it really any of our business  how Biagio wants to run his auctions
i bid what i think a part is worth and if it goes above that i leave it.
so what will you gain from any answer, i think most of the people who have posted about this wouldnt buy anything from Biagio anyway, so i guess this is just a way to have a pop at the guy eh, pretty sad if you ask me !!
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: subwax on August 15, 2005, 08:17 PM
I cant believe you would be so lax if someone had shill bidded on an item you were bidding on, yet you are keen to jump to his defence. I call that sad, personally.

Please dont forget that shill bidding is a serious offence. Also consider that he has the opportunity to defend himself here - no-one is taking that away from him.

If you dont like what is said, Matt, then dont read it, mate.
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: dordymush on August 15, 2005, 08:22 PM
the fella's in business to make money. the same as i am with my company.i dont blame him charging the best he can get for thing.after all were not personal friends with the man are we.just customers for stuff he sells.like matt said you give up to your max and thats it.i dont deal with the yanks so there are three places i look alans , rudewheels , biagio.it would be a shame if you ask me if there was only 2 on this list.
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: subwax on August 15, 2005, 08:32 PM
you are quite right, Dordy - he can charge as much as he likes - its his business. But I think you are missing the point - its the way he conducts his auctions that is in question here. Its getting others to bid on his auctions to increase the price thats being alledged, not his prices. If it is true (and I stress that I dont not know if it true or not) then surely thats wrong. There is another topic on this forum about shill biding, where the seller is accused of scamming. What makes Biagio different?
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: subwax on August 15, 2005, 08:34 PM
Anyway, I shall say no more on the matter - I will leave it to him to defend himself or not, as he chooses. As I dont deal with him, the outcome matters little.
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: billstup on August 15, 2005, 11:29 PM
Quote
Anyway, I shall say no more on the matter

Thank God for that  ;D
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: oberonspacefruit on August 15, 2005, 11:32 PM
10 posts in two pages. lol........not couning the locked ones...
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: pkradman on August 16, 2005, 12:15 AM
deffo not shill bidding .. cut him some slack now for gods sake !!
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Bob_Acid on August 16, 2005, 12:27 AM
 :'( Boo Hoo Biagio this, Waah Haa Biagio that.   :'(


Give it a rest ffs.   you're boring!
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: sean on August 16, 2005, 07:09 AM
 ;D ;D ;D Well said Bob
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Mattskybeat on August 16, 2005, 09:16 AM
it doesnt matter to me but i will rant on and on and on, feckin hell the nigerians dont get this much stick, is it because you are jealous ??   ;D
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: subwax on August 16, 2005, 09:35 AM
I was doing this for the interest of th BMX community, however I can see that there is little interest in this subject - I really dont feel there is any need ot attack me personally, calling me jealous and boring, but if it makes you feel better, then go ahead.

I shall now be looking out for myself, as this is apparently what everyone wants / does. I wont bother posting on here again, as this is the type of reaction I get.
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Mattskybeat on August 16, 2005, 03:41 PM
Hey subwax, im not attacking you mate, im just stating my opinion, so dont take it personally because its not meant that way  ;)
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: daze on August 16, 2005, 04:53 PM
(http://www.babybare.com/images/Boy_Dummy_product.jpg)


 :P :)
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: retrorider.u.k on August 16, 2005, 04:58 PM
is this still going on. GET A LIFE !  :o shill bidding,under bidding whatever you want to call it goes on at every auction so whats new...biagio is ok by me  ;)
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: mightymini on August 16, 2005, 05:22 PM
funny that, every other time you lot talk about shill bidding theres uproar, report them to ebay is the usual statement. ???
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Rombloke on August 16, 2005, 05:36 PM
funny that, every other time you lot talk about shill bidding theres uproar, report them to ebay is the usual statement. ???
couldnt agree more fella

but heres the thing and maybe im being naive, but biaggio runs a bisness from ebay, i would have thought he knows the consequences of shill bidding and has far too much to lose from it..
so why would he bum an auction up for a few quid...
maybe biaggio will answer in his own time
ive only ever bought as couple of things from him myself and recieved a good service. had one dispute over a silly thing and gave each other neutral feedback, and put it down to my ''newbie''
status

Dave
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: mightymini on August 16, 2005, 06:33 PM
yep ive only bought from him once and had no problems what so ever. hope he is not shill bidding, but would be nice to here his side.
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Dingobmxer on August 16, 2005, 08:02 PM
I noticed both him and Mrs vert-ego are on here at the moment (7:55PM)
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Zippy on August 16, 2005, 08:03 PM
Will the last person to leave this thread please turn off the light.
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Bob_Acid on August 17, 2005, 12:07 AM
*CLICK*
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: ORB on August 17, 2005, 12:18 AM
**pulls fuse out**
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Bob_Acid on August 17, 2005, 12:24 AM
*smashes it up with a hammer*
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Zippy on August 17, 2005, 01:16 AM
Oh it ok everyone, I've found a torch.















OH bugger the batteries have run out.
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Bob_Acid on August 17, 2005, 01:36 AM
Sub, don't go mate. You ain't as boring as Sandro is :D
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: muttley on August 17, 2005, 07:17 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Mattskybeat on August 17, 2005, 09:02 AM
eerr wait a minute everyone come back ive not finished  !!!   >:(
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: OrgasmDonor on August 17, 2005, 12:35 PM
'ere...............

























come closer.....
































shhhhh..........






















He does have a look of Hawkins though doesnt he? ;D
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: beard1973 on August 17, 2005, 03:34 PM
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/hawkins.jpg)

This fella???
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: motomagII on August 17, 2005, 05:04 PM
as i said in the last thread biaggio is cool with me and vice versa .i find him approachable and very helpful.prices may be little high but ita a business you arent sat here moaning about the prices at asda !!!i hate to see slasgging matches on here and hope this is the end of it .shill bidding ?????????i think not but hey who knows if youve no proof please SHUT UP .greg
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Rombloke on August 17, 2005, 06:47 PM
boll)x to this...

click

Dave
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: ORB on August 17, 2005, 07:54 PM
Hey dave, I want the last word.





Wanna buy a dog?
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: Rombloke on August 17, 2005, 08:03 PM
my turn

Dave
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: ORB on August 17, 2005, 08:07 PM
Turnip
Title: Re: Is he shill bidding or not?
Post by: TwoBobRob on August 17, 2005, 11:46 PM
You people am funny.  Made I larf you did.  ;D
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