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Title: Subwax
Post by: stevochb on February 08, 2010, 10:53 PM
Been bidding on an item that subwax had on ebay, just had 2 emails from ebay with a sort of warning about him, then when I checked my bidding there was no sign of the item I was bidding on ???
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: jT Racing on February 08, 2010, 10:55 PM
fook me, don't tell me he's managed to give a whole business the hump :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on February 08, 2010, 10:58 PM
They have warned me from dealing with him ??? i only asked him about aerospeeds  ???
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: stevochb on February 08, 2010, 10:58 PM
Its give me the hump >:(
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: jT Racing on February 08, 2010, 10:59 PM
what was it?
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: STUMPYLEE on February 08, 2010, 11:05 PM
i just got a warning e-mail from ebay too.
Here it is:

We can see that you've had contact with subwax through eBay recently.

We've been looking into activity on this account and taken action if we needed to. To protect this member's privacy, we can't share any more details about their account.

People sometimes misuse eBay accounts by sending emails from them. In these emails, they invite you to buy or sell outside eBay, or ask questions that have nothing to do with eBay. They do this in the hope that you'll respond and give them your email address.

We strongly recommend you treat emails from this member with caution and don't respond if you hear from them again.

Tips for safe trading on eBay

Always complete your purchases on the eBay website - it's the safest way to trade with other eBay members. Always make sure that your user ID is listed as the winning bidder on the 'Item ended' page before sending money for a purchase.

If someone asks you to buy or sell an item outside eBay, we strongly recommend you ignore their request and report it to us. If you buy or sell outside eBay, you won't be protected by our Feedback system and protection services.

Keeping eBay a safe and reputable place to buy and sell is our top priority. To find out more about buying safely on eBay, open a new window on your browser and copy these links into it:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/tp/isgw-fraud-non-ebay.html
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/safetycentre/buying_safely.html

If you've sent payment for an item but not received it, please let us know. You can contact us from any eBay Help page.
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: stidds on February 08, 2010, 11:07 PM
i just got a warning e-mail from ebay too.

Me too, another dodgy fooking ebayer  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: bobafett on February 08, 2010, 11:09 PM

So what does the warning email say ?  ???

I've been on ebay for 7 years and I've never recieved anything like that - freaky  :shocked:

Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: stidds on February 08, 2010, 11:11 PM
This is what mine said....

Dear


We can see that you've had contact with subwax through eBay recently.

We've been looking into activity on this account and taken action if we needed to. To protect this member's privacy, we can't share any more details about their account.

People sometimes misuse eBay accounts by sending emails from them. In these emails, they invite you to buy or sell outside eBay, or ask questions that have nothing to do with eBay. They do this in the hope that you'll respond and give them your email address.

We strongly recommend you treat emails from this member with caution and don't respond if you hear from them again.
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: superbikedan on February 08, 2010, 11:13 PM
neil  subwax is the only guy that i've ever had bad feeling with, it all started

with him wanting me to paint some of his bikes, fook me the emails went on and on

with him questioning my ability and knowledge, one question after the other, i just felt he

was undermining my knowledge, in the end i told him to fook off and pay his over inflated

prices from the states, his relpy was fine your agressive and i dont want to deal with you ;D

well thank fook for that then,  one strange bloke  :idiot2:
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: WARDY on February 08, 2010, 11:15 PM
it looks like ebay just kicking up a fuss trying to scare peeps into not buying off him outside of ebay the greedy b,stards , hes probably doing deals privately
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: bobafett on February 08, 2010, 11:16 PM
it looks like ebay just kicking up a fuss trying to scare peeps into not buying off him outside of ebay the greedy b,stards , hes probably doing deals privately

Aye, probably right there  ;)

Certainly reads that way.........

Ahh well fook him - he hasn't got any goose stuff for sale anyway  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on February 08, 2010, 11:17 PM
Hmmm seems strange, i never dealt with him outside of the ebay rules  ::)
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: Rodgy1970 on February 08, 2010, 11:24 PM
it looks like ebay just kicking up a fuss trying to scare peeps into not buying off him outside of ebay the greedy b,stards , hes probably doing deals privately

agree 100%,

he's posted this on the museum, looks like Ebay are fooked off and they've decided to make it very difficult for him.

"Guys - more Ebay / Paypal grief for me:

They have suspended my account while they investigate the items I have for sale are actually mine. They are, of course, all mine, however Paypal need to verify that. They are asking the monumental task of wanting me to provide a Paypal receipt for every frame I am now selling. I have thousands of transactions over the years that I have been collecting, and providing this is no small task.

I ask everyone who has bought something from me to be patient - I have sent most of my parts out, the rest will be sent within the next few days. If you need to contact me, please pm me.

To quote from the email I have received from Ebay:

"Please understand we're not accusing you of dishonest behaviour. Our top priority is to keep our online community safe, which is why we'd like to ask you for some further information. "

I am working hard to resolve this, so please be patient. This will be worted out soon, and normal service will resume."


EDIT - http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=194611
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: Muffski on February 08, 2010, 11:26 PM
All the stuff i was watching has been pulled???
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: Zippy on February 09, 2010, 12:34 AM
Dealt with him loads over the years and never had an issue with him. Haven't chatted to him in a while but we'd chat quite a bit on MSN a few years ago.
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: HARORIDER on February 09, 2010, 06:17 AM
i had the warning too noticed some stuff was going a bit high
shill bid ::) possibly :-\
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: moomin on February 09, 2010, 06:43 AM
Got the same email, first time i've had any contact with him personally, tbh was OK, we were bidding on a PL20, got outbid so offered us a second chance on another PL20 he had which we weren't keen on so it was then put on ebay by Subwax.
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: oldsnow on February 09, 2010, 07:15 AM
i got the same email from ebay !  ???
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: martylaa on February 09, 2010, 08:13 AM
 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
keeping stum about his selling otherwise i'll be getting pm's again :10_2_12:
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: safc1 on February 09, 2010, 09:47 AM
ebay have cancelled stuff of mine before, and sent emails to people... 

i was selling some powerwings on there, but emailing the high bidder thru ebay telling him i had the ripper f/f as well if he wanted to make an offer...  ebay cancelled the powerwings and sent me a sh!tty email saying i was attempting to trade outside of ebay.
  ;D
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: stidds on February 09, 2010, 10:02 AM
I have deleted some of the replies, so the thread can stay on topic (you guys know which replies).
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: ozone on February 09, 2010, 10:23 AM
He's probably 'ended early' on too many items and eBay don't like too much of that. :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: moomin on February 09, 2010, 01:46 PM
I hope it was nothing to do with the PL20's, i asked him to email pics, then if we liked we were gonna bid, had no intention of doing it outside ebay, just wanted pics to see what condition was  :'(
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: dannywhiteley on February 09, 2010, 05:52 PM
I sold a Saracen road bike on ebay recently, had it listed for £250 BIN.  A lad messaged me asking if I could reduce the price and I said I would do it for £225 cash on collection (he had to collect it anyway so it saved me all their and paypals fee's).

The conversation went on for 5 or 6 messages when he told me ebay were sending him a warning with every message similar to what is written above.  I told him (through ebay) that it was just ebay being pissed off cos they would miss on my fee's.  I even called them greedy b@stards (through ebay messaging...lol) but they didnt pull my item, I just told the lad he was coming to collect it so I could hardly rip him off.  If it wasnt as described he could walk away.

It does look like they are clamping down on this though, but as I said to him (again through ebay messaging), that it isnt illegal to deal out of ebay.  I could as easily sell it to someone from work and have to pull the auction anyway.  I left it up to him and he went for it when I threw in a helmet. :)

I think they monitor messages for words like 'offer' and 'outside of ebay' cos it would take forever to check every message.  Just choose your wording carefully.  Ebay are greedy bastards but there is no better market place to sell most items so I guess they can be!

Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: sweetbeats on February 09, 2010, 06:03 PM
Sounds like a top chap to me BMX and Chang...been to the garage a few times early doors on the Haro off me nut...doing radical stunts in my Mike Dominguez wig...Flip outs,Skids,bunny hops,Nasty Radness to the Chang Max and a Bottle of Tizer on the way back  :crazy2:

Like I have said before don't know Neil,Never had any dealings with him....just think there is some jealous bitchy fookers in bmx that would probably say jack shit to Neil's face and proper mod arse lickers who think doing threads about SUBWAX knowing he is banned and disliked might get a themselves a few brownie points  8)


Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: martylaa on February 09, 2010, 06:12 PM
Sounds like a top chap to me BMX and Chang...been to the garage a few times early doors on the Haro off me nut...doing radical stunts in my Mike Dominguez wig...Flip outs,Skids,bunny hops,Nasty Radness to the Chang Max and a Bottle of Tizer on the way back  :crazy2:

Like I have said before don't know Neil,Never had any dealings with him....just think there is some jealous bitchy fookers in bmx that would probably say jack shit to Neil's face and mod arse lickers think doing threads about SUBWAX knowing he is banned and disliked might get a themselves a few brownie points  8)



if you've never had any dealings with neil, then you won't know why a lot of people have an issue with him and his attitude will ya?
promised myself i would'nt say any more about neil :-X
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: sweetbeats on February 09, 2010, 06:16 PM
Sounds like a top chap to me BMX and Chang...been to the garage a few times early doors on the Haro off me nut...doing radical stunts in my Mike Dominguez wig...Flip outs,Skids,bunny hops,Nasty Radness to the Chang Max and a Bottle of Tizer on the way back  :crazy2:

Like I have said before don't know Neil,Never had any dealings with him....just think there is some jealous bitchy fookers in bmx that would probably say jack shit to Neil's face and mod arse lickers think doing threads about SUBWAX knowing he is banned and disliked might get a themselves a few brownie points  8)



if you've never had any dealings with neil, then you won't know why a lot of people have an issue with him and his attitude will ya?
promised myself i would'nt say any more about neil :-X


Give the Guy a break..he can't get on here to defend himself...quit the bitchin' and enjoy bmx  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: martylaa on February 09, 2010, 06:20 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: sweetbeats on February 09, 2010, 06:21 PM
   
Old School BMX - Vector 1st gen bars
subwax ( 1427)   100.0%


He is hardly a fookin' crook 1427 Ebay transactions 100% Feedback?
Lots of unhappy conned customers  ::)
Sounds like the son of satan to me  :)
 
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: jT Racing on February 09, 2010, 06:53 PM
this has happened to him before. FACT. i remember him explaining it away on OS bmx(now bmx society) when he was having troubles, he was saying that somebody did it too him :-X
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: sweetbeats on February 09, 2010, 07:03 PM
Can't see the big deal...nearly 1500 positive ebay feedbacks speaks for itself,yup the guy has an attitude,likes to party,got loads of quality BMX stuff....get over it guys :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: jT Racing on February 09, 2010, 07:06 PM
get over it guys

 ???
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: OrgasmDonor on February 09, 2010, 07:28 PM



[/quote]
if you've never had any dealings with neil, then you won't know why a lot of people have an issue with him and his attitude will ya?
promised myself i would'nt say any more about neil :-X
[/quote]

gotta agree with this 100%, his attitude is unfookinbelievafookinable, as for his feedback, ebay is quite unpersonable ya pay ya money n get ya shit job done, so no one is accusing him of being dishonest or a crook, but fook me, he is a spam javelin of the highest order.
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: sweetbeats on February 09, 2010, 07:36 PM
Spam Javalin-Like it.
Hey Nobody got hurt,the lad can't get on here to defend himself...so what if he has some attitude I thought attitude was cool these days on the streets ?
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: OrgasmDonor on February 09, 2010, 07:48 PM
theres attitude n attitude
Spam Javalin-Like it.
Hey Nobody got hurt,the lad can't get on here to defend himself...so what if he has some attitude I thought attitude was cool these days on the streets ?


as you say, he aint here to defend himself, and i dont dislike the lad by a long chalk, just stating a fact based on my dealings with him.
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: sweetbeats on February 09, 2010, 07:53 PM
theres attitude n attitude
Spam Javalin-Like it.
Hey Nobody got hurt,the lad can't get on here to defend himself...so what if he has some attitude I thought attitude was cool these days on the streets ?


as you say, he aint here to defend himself, and i dont dislike the lad by a long chalk, just stating a fact based on my dealings with him.

So apart from Spam and attitude what has he actually done?
Has he ripped anyone off ? as his ebay feedback would say he has almost 1500 positive feedbacks and has done the deals?
If he was a robbing junkie I am sure ebay would have been one of his favourite criminal haunts in order to raise sufficient funds to finance his scarface size mountains of chang and spam :)


Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: OrgasmDonor on February 09, 2010, 09:07 PM
like i said, he aint a crook and im not trying to put anyone off buyin anything off him on ebay, (as pointed out; his feedback speaks for itself), but outside ebay, in my experience, unless everything is going his way and he doesnt have to do a thing for you, he's happy, otherwise the attitude kicks in and ya thinkin "EH?" "WTF?"

im sayin nowt else  :-X
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: sweetbeats on February 09, 2010, 09:11 PM
like i said, he aint a crook and im not trying to put anyone off buyin anything off him on ebay, (as pointed out; his feedback speaks for itself), but outside ebay, in my experience, unless everything is going his way and he doesnt have to do a thing for you, he's happy, otherwise the attitude kicks in and ya thinkin "EH?" "WTF?"

im sayin nowt else  :-X

Agreed he has an attitude,but people slanging him to get brownie points is just YAWN  :)
Nobody got hurt,tons of people have got old school shit they could normally only dream of and I am sure the happy bunnies out weigh the bitchy bunnies  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: Rombloke on February 09, 2010, 09:12 PM
who really gives a f'uck either way...lets be honest

Dave
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: sweetbeats on February 09, 2010, 09:19 PM
who really gives a f'uck either way...lets be honest

Dave

Well said Gaffer  :)
If he was a conman and robbed radsters of hard earned cash fair do's slag the fooker-he has some attitude agreed,loads of good old school shit agreed he cant defend himself so he's an easy target.
 ;)
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: Moose on February 09, 2010, 09:19 PM
who really gives a f'uck either way...lets be honest

Dave

What's this thread about? I can't be arsed to read it .......................

......and who is Subwax?
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: lazychubs on February 09, 2010, 09:21 PM
well ive never had a prob with neil subwax
if it wasnt for him selling me my rl20 2b i wouldnt have got back into bmx and bmxing
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: sweetbeats on February 09, 2010, 09:26 PM
who really gives a f'uck either way...lets be honest

Dave

What's this thread about? I can't be arsed to read it .......................

......and who is Subwax?

You normally comment on things you don't read properly so why change the habit of a life time?
 :-\
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: stevochb on February 09, 2010, 09:26 PM
Hello peeps I started this thread because I was bidding on one off his Items and it disapeared, then I got the email from ebay. Just wanted to find out what had happened. Didnt meen it to turn into an anti subwax thread dont know the fella but he has some nice stuff that I wanted to buy.
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: Moose on February 09, 2010, 09:30 PM
who really gives a f'uck either way...lets be honest

Dave

What's this thread about? I can't be arsed to read it .......................

......and who is Subwax?


You normally comment on things you don't read properly so why change the habit of a life time?
 :-\



 :2funny:
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: sweetbeats on February 09, 2010, 09:31 PM
Hello peeps I started this thread because I was bidding on one off his Items and it disapeared, then I got the email from ebay. Just wanted to find out what had happened. Didnt meen it to turn into an anti subwax thread dont know the fella but he has some nice stuff that I wanted to buy.

I have bid on tons of shit on ebay or watched stuff that get's pulled..or i have arranged it to be pulled for my benefit...like I said he is hated on RAD so hey let's make a thread about it cos it's cool and the mods and muppets will think I am cool.




Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: sweetbeats on February 09, 2010, 09:32 PM
who really gives a f'uck either way...lets be honest

Dave

What's this thread about? I can't be arsed to read it .......................

......and who is Subwax?


You normally comment on things you don't read properly so why change the habit of a life time?
 :-\



 :2funny:


Well Taken Moose  :4_17_5:  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: billstup on February 09, 2010, 09:33 PM
Couldn`t have happened to a nicer bloke  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: Moose on February 09, 2010, 09:40 PM
who really gives a f'uck either way...lets be honest

Dave

What's this thread about? I can't be arsed to read it .......................

......and who is Subwax?


You normally comment on things you don't read properly so why change the habit of a life time?
 :-\



 :2funny:


Well Taken Moose  :4_17_5:  :LolLolLolLol:

Thanks  :daumenhoch:

And just in case you didn't know, I know very well who Subwax is - he even approached me via email a couple of times for one or two choice items I used to own - I didn't sell them to him.
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: sweetbeats on February 09, 2010, 09:42 PM
who really gives a f'uck either way...lets be honest

Dave

What's this thread about? I can't be arsed to read it .......................

......and who is Subwax?


You normally comment on things you don't read properly so why change the habit of a life time?
 :-\



 :2funny:


Well Taken Moose  :4_17_5:  :LolLolLolLol:

Thanks  :daumenhoch:

And just in case you didn't know, I know very well who Subwax is - he even approached me via email a couple of times for one or two choice items I used to own - I didn't sell them to him.

Yeah I heard he is even more devious as a customer than a seller  :LolLolLolLol: it would only end in tears for sure  ;D
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on February 09, 2010, 09:46 PM
Subwax, were's that yawn smiley at Dave  ???
Title: Re: Subwax
Post by: Rombloke on February 10, 2010, 01:59 PM
fok knows we need it here tho mate for sure.

just to clear things up though, i actually used to speak to neil on a regular basis on msn, but havent for an absolute age.
never had a falling out with him one way or another, never had a deal with him in regards to parts etc, so cant comment either way there.

however, he and bill dont see eye to eye for sure, and thats why he got a ban, therefore he isnt on rad anymore, well not as the user name ''subwax''

like i said in my previous post, i care as much as i know, about this ebay shananigan, but maybe asking ebay might be an idea as apposed to posting on here.

(boring smiley)

now locked!

Dave
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