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Title: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: spesh on March 03, 2010, 11:39 AM
for quite a while now ive been less and less interested in bmx,s as the old parts have dried up and im bored at looking at my two completed builds
ive started frequenting "retrobike" forum and thoughts of building a nice mtb have been festering in my noggin
do i need help?
will 26" wheels cut to the chase?
is suspension a good thing?

WHAT SHALL I DO !!!? :idiot2: :-\
PLEASE HELP!!!!
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: monkian on March 03, 2010, 11:41 AM
Get a BMX :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on March 03, 2010, 11:52 AM
 :) Depends what you want one for.They`ve grown quite specialised (no pun intended) but you don`t want a flimsy XC/leisure bike if you`re going dirtjumping...
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: Jon The Bassist on March 03, 2010, 11:57 AM
You should get something single-speed with no suspension and 26 or 24" wheels.
A cruiser!
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: pickle on March 03, 2010, 12:10 PM
there's room for them all......i love my MTB and have had a fair few over the years  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: daz bmx it! on March 03, 2010, 12:38 PM
Yep,get some of every type as I have done :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: spesh on March 03, 2010, 12:46 PM
You should get something single-speed with no suspension and 26 or 24" wheels.
A cruiser!

i do have a ss which i will post pics of soon and i restored a schwinn beach cruiser for the summer again pics soon
but im losing the love for the 20"ers :'(
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: Jon The Bassist on March 03, 2010, 12:50 PM
You should get something single-speed with no suspension and 26 or 24" wheels.
A cruiser!

i do have a ss which i will post pics of soon and i restored a schwinn beach cruiser for the summer again pics soon
but im losing the love for the 20"ers :'(

Sweet, I'll look forward to them pics  :daumenhoch: . Maybe a little break from the 20s is what's needed?
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: martylaa on March 03, 2010, 01:22 PM
get all types, i have various old school bmx's, also have a boardman carbon road bike and my mtb is a 09 commencal meta 4.2, class for downhilling......
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: kev-s on March 03, 2010, 01:52 PM
spesh decide what sort of riding u want to do, no real point in doing downhill around here as all there is to ride is queen elizabeth counrty park

maybe x country which can be fun getting covered in mud, getting lost, moderate downhill rides and its good for fitness

or if u prefer road riding look at road bikes/hybrids

see if ur work do a ride to work scheme, ours does and if we spend for example 1k we get 45% off and it comes straight out of our wages
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: thecrooch on March 03, 2010, 03:50 PM
go for it - loads of fun...  just got back from Afan in South Wales razzing down the mountain on my new baby...

2010 Santa Cruz Heckler with 150mm Travel - Fun Factor 11 Rides over/through pretty much everything and will then ride back up again.... 
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj107/thecrooch/heckler.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj107/thecrooch/heckler5.jpg)

but then back to the BMX's this weekend - theres room for all in the garage... just ride and have fun.. if your smiling its working...
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: kdw712 on March 03, 2010, 04:10 PM
Since i got my MTB i've hardly looked at BMX

MTB straight out and riding, ( i'm only a mile from decent off road riding )
no driving to tracks / parks etc

trashing through all the mud and slop you can handle  >:D

i love it
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: steve69 on March 03, 2010, 04:55 PM
Gears are for Girls :yahoo_silent:
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: pickle on March 03, 2010, 05:49 PM
i've had all, Hardtail XC, Full suss XC and full suss freeride/DH but gone full circle and have a long travel Hard tail now and love it!  great for everything, quick on the climbs and just as quick going down!  :daumenhoch:

Have a word with Mike and look at one of his Dialled Prince Albert frames  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: dannywhiteley on March 03, 2010, 06:02 PM
I kept the old school vibe going with a 1991 Marin Palisades Trail (the matt grey one with fluo yellow bars and forks).  Got a Cosmic Trail fluo cross bar pad, one of those triangle frame packs and a fluo yellow speckled bottle cage.

Gets more attention than all the modern rubbish on my local trails...  :LolLolLolLol:











n.b. Modern rubbish jibe was a joke. ;)
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: Jonnyboy bmx on March 03, 2010, 06:38 PM

Ive gone old school with my MTB as well, 1991 Kona Explosif  :)
Build yourself a old school one & you can still get your bike building fix, the same but different  ???

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v221/bmxjon/atb/100_0016.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v221/bmxjon/atb/100_0038.jpg)
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: Rodgy1970 on March 03, 2010, 09:34 PM

Ive gone old school with my MTB as well, 1991 Kona Explosif  :)

nice bike  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: CD17 on March 03, 2010, 10:03 PM

Ive gone old school with my MTB as well, 1991 Kona Explosif  :)
Build yourself a old school one & you can still get your bike building fix, the same but different  ???

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v221/bmxjon/atb/100_0016.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v221/bmxjon/atb/100_0038.jpg)

Sweet Explosif  :smitten: I love these old Kona's, I've had four Kona's

My first was a 93 Lava Dome, then a 96 Lave Dome & a 04 Kula, I would love to find a mint 96 Lave Dome  8)

Have you checked out this site

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: Jonnyboy bmx on March 03, 2010, 10:46 PM

Ive gone old school with my MTB as well, 1991 Kona Explosif  :)
Build yourself a old school one & you can still get your bike building fix, the same but different  ???

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v221/bmxjon/atb/100_0016.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v221/bmxjon/atb/100_0038.jpg)

Sweet Explosif  :smitten: I love these old Kona's, I've had four Kona's

My first was a 93 Lava Dome, then a 96 Lave Dome & a 04 Kula, I would love to find a mint 96 Lave Dome  8)

Have you checked out this site

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/

Yes mate, they really know there stuff over there  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: gobshite on March 03, 2010, 10:54 PM
what a load of lycra clad fags :LolLolLolLol:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/gaycyc1-715842.jpg)

i'm banned for life from retrobike :smitten:


old school mountain bikes are like old school bmx's ,

pretty to look at but shit to ride,

and tbh they're utterly and completely piss-weak.



something like this is what you need if you actually want to ride off road,

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/DSC00328.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/DSC00319.jpg)
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: Del on March 04, 2010, 08:48 AM
i quite fancy a MTB jump/street bike and always keep looking at this baby....

(http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/images/item_107163.jpg)

What's the advantages and disadvantages of 24" and 26" as you can get this one in both
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: pickle on March 04, 2010, 10:57 AM
this is my current choice.......long travel fork and steel HT frame, go up or down whatever you want and light enough for all day rides as well  :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b339/robertbransby/oneone.jpg)

you can pick up a frame new for about £150  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: gobshite on March 04, 2010, 11:59 AM
i quite fancy a MTB jump/street bike and always keep looking at this baby....

(http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/images/item_107163.jpg)

What's the advantages and disadvantages of 24" and 26" as you can get this one in both

"24 wheels are a little more nimble and handle a little quicker,
"26 wheels  cover more ground quicker and handle a touch slower,

any joy with the T1 stickers del? :LolLolLolLol:


nice on-one ther pickles, good choice sir :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: dialledbikes on March 04, 2010, 02:11 PM
Get a 4X bike.  Like a big BMX but a bit more forgiving/talent compensator.
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: spesh on March 04, 2010, 03:36 PM
i got this frame and fork for sale

subway alloy frame good condition with hoffman ek decals fitted c/w seat and post and clamp
marzochi drop-off 6" travel forks slight scratches disc only
plus i may have some other bits to throw in    £100 posted

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g279/spesh1967/100_1418.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g279/spesh1967/100_1420.jpg)

Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: Dingobmxer on March 04, 2010, 05:14 PM
I am with Pickle on this one, long travel hardtail for me too

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/29032008196.jpg)

Cove Stiffee 69er, had her from the days I was a mountain bike guide and she done me proud in Portugal.Greece,Costa Rice,UK and Finland. all the bike I will ever need (I have three sets of tyres,road slick/xc and DH)

Dingo
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: scooterboy on March 04, 2010, 09:53 PM
Agree with Dingo, two words Cove Hardtail......................... (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/dd233/Pooch27/000_0191.jpg)
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: thecrooch on March 05, 2010, 09:32 AM
Cover Handjob is an zalternative as well as is the Cotic Soul but ive just gone for one of Mikes Prince Alberts as my work commuter/winter hack and its a defo winner....
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: pickle on March 05, 2010, 09:37 AM
get a piccie up Si........love the look of the prince albert, not unlike my inbred   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: CD17 on March 05, 2010, 09:47 AM
I've got to agree with Joe, modern Full sus are so much better to ride & they climb really well too & take all the abuse you can through at them  8)

I brought one of these in December

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b366/claire169/trek-remedy-8-mountain-bike-45667.jpg)

I love it  :smitten:
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: PHIPPSIO on March 05, 2010, 11:02 AM
Full bouncer every time - my old anthem x0, the bst bike i have ever rideen hands down
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/dd272/DOMPHIPPSIO/DSCN2391.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/dd272/DOMPHIPPSIO/DSCN2392.jpg)
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: kdw712 on March 05, 2010, 11:06 AM
I brought one of these in December

nice  :daumenhoch: love that colour combo  :smitten:

i'm hoping to get a 2010 stumpjumper comp if things pan out
then have to decide if i sell the rockhopper  :-\
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: Dark Diggler on March 05, 2010, 11:21 AM
mine

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p70/simonjturner/giant_reign_x1xl.jpg)
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: part time on March 05, 2010, 11:28 AM
I'm firmly in the sprung camp when it comes to MTB's too.  A sorted full sus bike just rides so well.  I'm sure mine would climb okay too if I had the inclination........
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: Dingobmxer on March 05, 2010, 06:02 PM
I would definately reccomend trying different bikes, get on a shop demo day if possible,

I have owned various full suss mtbs but that is the THIRD Cove Stiffee I have owned, I kept coming back to them so decided to stick withn this one.(its like a big bmx with the seat down, climbs well with the forks wound down to 80mm and flies downhill with them wound out to 125mm)

I recently had a Yeti 575 for a fortnight but much as I wanted to I couldnt get on with it (only full sussers I really liked were my Santa Cruz Superlight and Heckler, both single pivots)

Dingo
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: pickle on March 05, 2010, 06:07 PM
i've a few full sussers (XC and Freeride/DH) but in the end i just felt like i was just a passenger on them going down a hill......no picking lines just hanging on, fun for a while but i founf my general riding got worst over time.

i'd go for the Cove over a full suss......but then i guess we're diferent  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: kdw712 on March 05, 2010, 06:15 PM
get on a shop demo day if possible,

as dingo says thats a great way

theres some coming up too

check out the link
http://demodays.bikeradar.com/ (http://demodays.bikeradar.com/)
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: priv on March 05, 2010, 08:57 PM
i've got a spesh p2 hardtail,a solid flair do-all bike and this is my fave at the moment a cannondale with lefty

(http://)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/rr71/disdirter/can1.jpg)


Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: Dingobmxer on March 06, 2010, 06:25 AM
looking trim there Priv,
you lost some weight fella?

Dingo
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: hunterdubber on March 06, 2010, 07:01 AM
looking trim there Priv,
you lost some weight fella?

Dingo

I was just thinking that myself Mark,,,,

Camera tricks maybe ?  ::)

 ;)

Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: bof on March 06, 2010, 08:05 AM
Here is my Xmas present from the Mrs . :)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h10/fish116/DSCF2876.jpg)
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: jedi on March 06, 2010, 08:14 AM
i love both bmx and mtb!

Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: Dingobmxer on March 06, 2010, 01:19 PM
What tyres are you crazy kids running on their XC vessels?
I just popped some Maxxis High Roller foldings on in 2.1 and 1.9 on mine for the spring

Dingo
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: thecrooch on March 06, 2010, 05:00 PM
Dingo

Maxxis Advantage on the Heckler and Normally Conti Vertical Pro's on the Prince Albert but got Spesh Nimbus on there for communting.

Pickle - here you go mate
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj107/thecrooch/IMG_2764.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj107/thecrooch/IMG_2763.jpg)
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: CD17 on March 06, 2010, 05:57 PM
I brought one of these in December

nice  :daumenhoch: love that colour combo  :smitten:

i'm hoping to get a 2010 stumpjumper comp if things pan out
then have to decide if i sell the rockhopper  :-\

I was thinking of getting the Enduro, it has a little more travel, but the Trek Remedy was just all round better, it gets 9/10 out of 10 in most of the tests, the only parts I have changed on it are

1. The seat, for a Fizik

2. The Seat Post, for an adjustable height one

3. The rear Cassette, for a 34T

4. I also swapped the shifters for XTRs just because I had a pair, but would have stuck with the XT if I had not.
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: Broggie on March 06, 2010, 07:03 PM
If I'm honest I prefer a hardtail...full sussers are just too bouncy.  But then I am a hobbyist, rather than full out.  Perhaps some peeps on here could let you try their bikes so you could buy from experience...the ride of a bike is very subjective...



Ray.
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: CD17 on March 06, 2010, 07:09 PM
If I'm honest I prefer a hardtail...full sussers are just too bouncy.  But then I am a hobbyist, rather than full out.  Perhaps some peeps on here could let you try their bikes so you could buy from experience...the ride of a bike is very subjective...



Ray.

It depends on the quality of the bike, I had a 96 Specialized FSR & yes that was just very Bouncy, but todays Full Sus bikes are so much better, they climb better & do not bounce about, they just stick to the trail.
Title: Re: im being drawn to the dark side (mtb,s)
Post by: kevin rettie on March 06, 2010, 10:04 PM
I like this... one day I'm going to build me one    :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/x27/Kevin_rettie/2367635404_2d2d1df86f.jpg)
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