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Title: you be the judge
Post by: Glen on March 21, 2010, 02:45 PM
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Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 21, 2010, 02:51 PM
that looks luuurvly Glen, turned out an absolute corker!  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: trasher on March 21, 2010, 02:53 PM
chrome and blue  :smitten:  nice build mate ,,,now get it ridden around the track at mk10  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: Bob_Acid on March 21, 2010, 03:00 PM
Sweet!
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: harris on March 21, 2010, 03:08 PM
you did great glen,thats a peach.
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: b45t4rd on March 21, 2010, 03:14 PM
V nice.  :daumenhoch:
What year? Is it a Hutchins because of the lawsuit?
Just being picky but sort the chain line out. >:D  Sorry.  :angel:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: wildon on March 21, 2010, 03:18 PM
Nice Glen .. I like it a lot!
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: b45t4rd on March 21, 2010, 03:34 PM
Its a 91 model

Wow, didn't realise Hutch went into the 90's! I knew they had problems using the name Hutch, hence Hutchins?
Cool find.  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on March 21, 2010, 03:35 PM
Mint Glen, looks great
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: sweetbeats on March 21, 2010, 03:35 PM
Tasty That Fella  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: brummie on March 21, 2010, 03:36 PM
fan fookin tastic nuf said  :smitten:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: diesel on March 21, 2010, 03:52 PM
Beautiful Glen - wondered when it would be finished

Great job  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 21, 2010, 04:04 PM
bit of history relating to Hutchins.....

The company was sold to a man named Bill Bellis.

THE REBIRTH
Bellis took over and brought production back to America. He was no stranger to BMX. He owned several bicycle distributors in the 80's including Louisville Cycle and Columbus Cycle and not only was he the money man behind Hutch he was the co-owner of CW / Revcore with Roger Worsham. Revcore of course was the racing company that manufactured extreme high quality American made frames. The quality of a Revcore is astounding and they went out of their way to make sure they were strong as well as light. Around the time Hutch was turned over to Bellis, Roger Worsham wanted out of the bike business and sold his half of CW / Revcore to Bellis under the condition that he stay on in some capacity, like a manager. So he was now the owner of CW / Revcore and Hutch. He moved Hutch from Maryland to Kentucky. The plan was to sell off the remaining Hutch inventory while building new stuff and getting team members to ride and promote the company.

THE NAME CHANGE
Hutch had been fighting a lawsuit brought against them by Hutch Sports USA (makers of stuff like football helmets). According to new information this lawsuit was actually settled for about $250. Apparently part of the agreement must have been that Hutch Bikes change their name. This name change to "Hutchins" appeared to have taken place sometime between 88 - 89. I have seen Hutch ads for 89 model freestyle bikes with the company name as Hutchins Bicycle Designs and the company address in Kentucky instead of Maryland. The bikes themselves were still called "Hutch" at this time. Soon the bikes themselves said Hutchins instead.

THE HUTCHINS BIKES
The new Hutchins frames were the Judge 2, Pro Racer, Pro Cruiser and a new freestyle bike. Some XL versions were made as well. The Judge 2 of course was a new version of the popular Tim Judge Hutch frame from back in the early 80's. I don't know what the freestyle frame was called. I don't think it was a Trick Star but I'm not certain. I saw an ad for a company called Derby Towne Cycles who sold only Revcore and Hutch stuff (the ad is in the picture gallery). It said they had new American made Hutchins frames. One was listed only as "USA made freestyle frame". I don't know what it was called or what it looked like. I contacted Hutch around 90 and asked if there would be a new Trick Star. The reply was that there would be a new Trick Star in 91 and it would be American made. I saw some mail order companies advertising that they were going to have Trick Stars again. When I contacted one about the price they said that Hutchins had changed their mind and were going to focus on racing frames instead. Whether or not this is true I don't know. Like I said, Hutch definitely told me that they were building a new Trick Star.

What kind of sticker kits did these bikes have? At first they had the same Hutch stickers as the old racing bikes had but that was quickly changed. Some of the different styles were ones that looked just like the old Hutch downtube sticker except that it said Hutchins instead of Hutch. Another style was an elongated H with stars trailing behind it. One head tube decal was just a large western H with a star behind it and another design was a large western H with the words Hutchins Performance Products written all around it in the same font as the late eighties logo.

What differences exist between the Hutch and the Hutchins bikes? One example would be the dropouts. Hutchins dropouts are all thick. The dropouts on the Judge 2 look like they are even thicker than the others possibly. Hutchins bikes likely will not have any logo pressed into the brake bridge. Some don't appear to have serial numbers either. Some of the last batch of Hutchins frames had a different looking dropout on the fork. Most were done like the original Hutch dropouts but some were shaped a little different and had no hole.

Sorry it's a bit long winded,but i thought some might be interested.
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: bobbysam on March 21, 2010, 06:59 PM
Bloody lovely mate  :4_17_5:  I want a Hutch before I die  :'(
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: bobafett on March 21, 2010, 07:03 PM

Looks nice that  :)

What's the TT length - looks fairly long  ???

Full parts breakdown ?  ;)

Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: rollin72 on March 21, 2010, 07:12 PM
 :coolsmiley: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: AtariAger on March 21, 2010, 07:18 PM
(http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/wavecrowd.gif)...(http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/jawdropper.gif)...(http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/wavecrowd.gif)


Thank you for not over killing it with BLUE tyres as well...!!!   ;)


 :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: Macmania on March 21, 2010, 07:20 PM
Looks great.....nice one  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 21, 2010, 08:28 PM
link with the specs...

http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/hutch/28046

think Glens gone out to play,so i'm his wing man for the night(although he doesn't know it yet)

Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: bobafett on March 21, 2010, 08:31 PM
link with the specs...
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/hutch/28046
think Glens gone out to play,so i'm his wing man for the night(although he doesn't know it yet)

Nice one  ;)

20.5" TT hey - thought she looked long - make a nice race bike then  8)

 :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: AtariAger on March 21, 2010, 08:31 PM
link with the specs...

http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/hutch/28046

think Glens gone out to play,so i'm his wing man for the night(although he doesn't know it yet)



You can be my wing man anytime Dave...!!!   :LolLolLolLol:

ie: "Top Gun" - HUTCHMAN...would have been a good'n...(Maverick, Iceman, Wolfman, Goose etc.)   :daumenhoch:

 :D
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 21, 2010, 08:32 PM
Also found out...looks like that Glens frame has the old Profile/Hutch style dropouts, may have been made by Profile......


In the second half 1990 Hutch was forced to give up the Hutch name because another company had the rights for this brand name. So, they changed it to Hutchins.
In 1990 Hutchins had the Judge II that came in Pro and XL size (see Tim Judge section). In the 1991 catalog the Hutchins frames are just called the Pro or the XL.

There are 2 Hutchins style decals. The Judge II tested in BMX Plus! October 1990, has the bursting star decals, those are rare these days because they weren't used for a long time. After came the red/chrome/blue Hutchins design.
At one point Profile was building the Hutchins frames. Those must be the ones with Profile style dropouts.
Last Hutchins frame sets had a fork with another design, more pointy design without the famous hole.

courtsey of JJR BMX.

Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: trickydeno on March 21, 2010, 08:38 PM
thats a top build mate!!! the cranks are beauties  :smitten:

Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: waza04 on March 21, 2010, 08:40 PM
thats beaut mate  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 21, 2010, 08:41 PM
link with the specs...

http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/hutch/28046

think Glens gone out to play,so i'm his wing man for the night(although he doesn't know it yet)



You can be my wing man anytime Dave...!!!   :LolLolLolLol:

ie: "Top Gun" - HUTCHMAN...would have been a good'n...(Maverick, Iceman, Wolfman, Goose etc.)   :daumenhoch:

 :D

mmm,see where your coming from with that... it works.
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: magna13 on March 21, 2010, 08:43 PM
beautiful peice of kit there Glen :smitten: show pony or racer? :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: tigerbrown on March 21, 2010, 08:44 PM

lovely bike that like..... bet it would fly round a track :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: jT Racing on March 21, 2010, 11:14 PM
looks well glen. nice to see how them forks ended up. sharpened up the handling no end i bet. :daumenhoch:
this is what i said before, how the feck is gobshite de bruin using hutch as a brand name?
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: martylaa on March 22, 2010, 06:58 AM
long time coming this one glen but by christ ya've nailed it  :daumenhoch:
p.s get some blue hutch grips or oakley b2's on it matey :4_17_5:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: hunterdubber on March 22, 2010, 07:18 AM
Glen that's an absolute stunner mate  :4_17_5: :4_17_5: :4_17_5:

Great colour choice , would love to see it in the flesh  :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

Did you think of building it with late 80's/90's profiles  , stem etc, grips   ???

but  obviously like the earlier stuff  :)

If you get bored with it, rather than sell it you could have re vamp with a pre mid set up too  :daumenhoch:

I'd love to see that too :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:  :)


I bet you're made up with it , quite rightly  8)
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: telelogic on March 22, 2010, 08:35 AM
What a belter  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: OrgasmDonor on March 22, 2010, 08:37 AM
nice one dude :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: thecrooch on March 22, 2010, 09:41 AM
Stunning Glen - glad you took your time with this one - all worth it...
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: ED209 on March 22, 2010, 01:56 PM
Glen - that bike is SEXYTIME  :D

proper sweet
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: monkian on March 22, 2010, 08:09 PM
Quality 8) :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: bmxmatt1974 on March 22, 2010, 08:33 PM
very nice mate  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: 20to26 on March 22, 2010, 08:34 PM
 :buck2:
Title: Re: you be the judge
Post by: Bigplinky on March 22, 2010, 08:52 PM
Man I would love to give that a blast, one of the best bikes of the year so far  :daumenhoch:
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