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Title: Finishing bare metal
Post by: ED209 on April 04, 2010, 10:02 PM
Whats the best finish for bare metal frames?

Cheers in advance  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: brummie on April 04, 2010, 10:13 PM
Whats the best finish for bare metal frames?

Cheers in advance  :daumenhoch:

have always fancied a raw frame, so stripping & polishing one ed. you will need to clear lacquer though as well otherwise it will rust :daumenhoch:

dave
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: ED209 on April 04, 2010, 10:14 PM
well I thought the laquer route but I got told "it will just fall off" buy my neighbour who used to paint cars?
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: rollin72 on April 04, 2010, 10:20 PM
there's a few on here who have used laquer on raw frames, dirtbag diggler did his, im sure if he sees this he'll set you straight or try to finger you >:D
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: pickle on April 04, 2010, 10:21 PM
Mine is clear laquered Ed   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: superbikedan on April 04, 2010, 10:31 PM
well I thought the laquer route but I got told "it will just fall off" buy my neighbour who used to paint cars?

tbh here ED your up against a hard one, i've rawed and lacqured a few frames in the past

and all fell foul the the rust creeping through, it just happens mate, it's only the frames that

are lacqured straight from manufactures seem to last longer but even those frames once chipped

start the old rusting, i recently just sprayed your brothers frame that was originally raw and fook me

it was in a bad state, real deep rust laying on the frame ???
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: ED209 on April 04, 2010, 10:41 PM
Alright Dan - hes my brother-in-law  :angel: he told me it had been 'professionally rusted'  8)

I'll give it a coat of laquer and see what happens  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: brettypeeps on April 05, 2010, 12:26 AM
If you get the drop out Zinc plated it will act as a Sacrifical material an prevent the frame from corroding as the Zinc will corrode well before the frame  don't lacquer the Zinc bits.  I know it is not normal, but a warm frame spayed is less lightly to corrode.
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: ED209 on April 05, 2010, 08:24 AM
can you come and spray it zinc in your druid outfit Brett...

and as far as scraficial materials work is goat any good  :LolLolLolLol:  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: ED209 on April 06, 2010, 09:20 PM
cheers Glen

I went and built it bare but I'm gonna strip it down and give it a few coats as you suggest.

Cheers  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: calmac on April 13, 2010, 07:55 PM
I rawed my sons Proper Proclaimer a few months back & heard all the hoorors of lacquer & chips in it & rust getting under it so i thought sod that,don't want all that hassle.
Being a bit of a petrol head i always use top quality cleaning ,waxing products on my car & after rawing the frame i simply used a top quality Meguairs Carnuba wax sealant on the rawed frame & so far so good. All you need do is about once a month top up the wax.
Maintainance & good house keeping IE wipe of any water etc. when you get back from riding, it's the same with chrome rims,if you don't treat them well they're done in no time.
I have also rawed bars,crank arms,seatposts using the same methods.

Calum
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: ED209 on April 13, 2010, 09:29 PM
Cheers Calum

I built the bike up raw so the idea of a wax to finish it off sounds well good!

Is this the one...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Meguiars-Maguires-Car-Deep-Crystal-Step-3-Carnuba-Wax_W0QQitemZ370355782251QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item563aecc26b (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Meguiars-Maguires-Car-Deep-Crystal-Step-3-Carnuba-Wax_W0QQitemZ370355782251QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item563aecc26b)

I rawed my sons Proper Proclaimer a few months back & heard all the hoorors of lacquer & chips in it & rust getting under it so i thought sod that,don't want all that hassle.
Being a bit of a petrol head i always use top quality cleaning ,waxing products on my car & after rawing the frame i simply used a top quality Meguairs Carnuba wax sealant on the rawed frame & so far so good. All you need do is about once a month top up the wax.
Maintainance & good house keeping IE wipe of any water etc. when you get back from riding, it's the same with chrome rims,if you don't treat them well they're done in no time.
I have also rawed bars,crank arms,seatposts using the same methods.

Calum
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: calmac on April 13, 2010, 11:53 PM
Cheers Calum

I built the bike up raw so the idea of a wax to finish it off sounds well good!

Is this the one...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Meguiars-Maguires-Car-Deep-Crystal-Step-3-Carnuba-Wax_W0QQitemZ370355782251QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item563aecc26b (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Meguiars-Maguires-Car-Deep-Crystal-Step-3-Carnuba-Wax_W0QQitemZ370355782251QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item563aecc26b)

I rawed my sons Proper Proclaimer a few months back & heard all the hoorors of lacquer & chips in it & rust getting under it so i thought sod that,don't want all that hassle.
Being a bit of a petrol head i always use top quality cleaning ,waxing products on my car & after rawing the frame i simply used a top quality Meguairs Carnuba wax sealant on the rawed frame & so far so good. All you need do is about once a month top up the wax.
Maintainance & good house keeping IE wipe of any water etc. when you get back from riding, it's the same with chrome rims,if you don't treat them well they're done in no time.
I have also rawed bars,crank arms,seatposts using the same methods.

Calum
yeah thats the stuff
calum
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: ED209 on April 14, 2010, 08:37 AM
I'm a go buy me some  8)

Then its Wax on Wax on like the Karate Kid  :angel:
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: wirewheel on April 15, 2010, 08:00 AM
before you laquer it give it a wipe over with strippers or solvent to get rid of any residue your hands will have left on the metal this is the worst thing for frames thats right SWEAT! when you get down to spraying make sure every in ch touched by human hands has been cleaned with solvent white spirit or summat thinners anything just stop touching the frame with hands then laquer it and laquer it and laquer it as many coats as possible for the best finish. its a hell of a lot less likely to flake or rust if the surface is clean before laquering, i have three frames to prove your mate the car sprayer he's wrong. it dont flake off.

remember with any spray job PREPARATION is way more important than anything

best of luck al.
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: jT Racing on April 15, 2010, 08:04 AM
i wonder how a frame would look with some chemical metal blue-ing ???
Title: Re: Finishing bare metal
Post by: ED209 on April 15, 2010, 04:50 PM
mmm 'who' indeed...!  :LolLolLolLol:

i wonder who a frame would look with some chemical metal blue-ing ???
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