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Title: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on April 06, 2006, 02:17 PM
I have tried fitting a headset to the Torker frame and forks today but none will fit properly. I have 2 Hatta Kongos and part of an old Tange headset and none of the lower fork rings fit... they are too big. The fork tube is the same width all the way down... Has the ridge at the bottom been removed from these forks or am i just a numpty and need to buy a different headset ??

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d79/funmonster/torkerforker.jpg)
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: BrianP on April 06, 2006, 03:34 PM
i've the same problem with a set of rickman freestyle forks.
looks like there's a small shim/collar missing. all the ball races i have here don't fit either...
was thinking of taking the tin snips to an old baked bean tin?
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on April 06, 2006, 03:43 PM
thx m8.... I need to know if these forks have been butchered....i am sure that the 280 forks had a ridge/stop... can anyone verify please?
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: theRuler on April 06, 2006, 03:43 PM
some tange forks i have are like that: the ring is slack
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: bodamus on April 06, 2006, 03:52 PM
A slack ring, sounds very nasty better see a doctor mate.


Sorry couldn't help it :idiot2:
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on April 06, 2006, 04:09 PM
some tange forks i have are like that: the ring is slack

The fork tube is straight... i thought there was a ridge at the base to push the fork ring onto...  ???
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: theRuler on April 06, 2006, 04:11 PM
some tange forks i have are like that: the ring is slack

The fork tube is straight... i thought there was a ridge at the base to push the fork ring onto...  ???

no mine have the ridge, but the ring is still slack

think you need the ridged bit! or a special bottom ring :)
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: billstup on April 06, 2006, 04:18 PM
There should be a ridge or a shim of some kind around that bit of the forks, the one on my gen 1 forks had moved a bit so I just pushed it back in to place. I was quite surprised as I thought it was a fixture as such, but it may be the case that it is just missing from yours  ;)
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: Frosty on April 06, 2006, 04:24 PM
Hmm certainly looks like what Bill said - bit of ring slippage!

Is this how you received the forks, as they look like they have had something at the bottom.
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on April 06, 2006, 04:51 PM
Thanks guys....Yes i got the forks like this :(
Here are some shots of the gap involved.... 2 shots with an old Tange fork ring and one shot with the Hatta ring.
 Does anyone know where in the wide wide world of sports i can get a shim?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d79/funmonster/ringy3.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d79/funmonster/ringy2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d79/funmonster/ringy.jpg)
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: billstup on April 06, 2006, 08:16 PM
Just make one Andy, like someone said ealier cut one out of a tin can  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: sawzall on April 06, 2006, 08:51 PM
THE EASIEST WAY WOULD BE,  FIND A PIECE OF TUBE WHICH WILL SLIDE SNUGLY OVER THREADED PART OF FORKS THEN CUT DESIRED AMOUNT WITH HACKSAW SLIDE ON FORK ,THIS SHOULD GIVE YOU SHOULDER TO FIT BEARING CUP  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: billstup on April 06, 2006, 09:13 PM
It is a very thin piece of tube that would be required  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: showtime on April 06, 2006, 09:50 PM
i remember the forks on my 280 were the same, i think they has a thin shim in there but the headset always knocked! i think that was the main reason i got rid of it  ::)
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: MartyC on April 07, 2006, 12:09 AM
The "shim" is usually brass and sometimes comes away when the bottom race is removed, as Bill said, try making a shim to fit using tin or brass or (you might not like doing this) use electrical tape and run the race over the top of it it.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on April 07, 2006, 01:29 AM
Thanks guys.... i have mailed the guy i got it from and asked him to look in the crown cone for the shim... He says its not there and that it was loose when he had it :( All this after being told by him that the headset fitted snugly and that he had no problems ::)
 i am sure i have the words tawt elbillug  tattooed on my forehead. I wondered why it said gullible twat when i looked in the mirror this morning ;D
 I have found a solution....check this out :D
I have a NOS floor mop... old school stylie with the white wooly mop bit and the plate and ring that the wooden handle slots into. The ring is exactly the thickness i need and is almost the right diameter ;D  It is split down one side anyway so i can open it up a few mm. I have hacked a ring off and put the mop back so the missus will never know  :angel:
 The Torker build goes on :2gunsfiring_v1:
Thanks again guys ;)
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: daz bmx it! on April 07, 2006, 11:44 PM
Hey Andy,all them years watching Blue Peter were'nt wasted after all ;)
Title: Re: Torker Fork/Headset problem
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on April 08, 2006, 01:51 AM
 :LolLolLolLol:

And you win a Blue Peter badge..... Get down Shep :D

I had to file the ring down today...it took about 2 hours to get it right and fit....but the jobs a good un. Tighter than a virgin with her legs crossed :daumenhoch:
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