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Title: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed Pg2
Post by: bobafett on May 10, 2010, 10:45 PM
So it wasn't a priority to add the ammaco built geese to my collection but I always said if they popped up cheap enough then I'd grab 'em.

Well...................  :LolLolLolLol:

Kev (KDW712) tipped me off a short while back when an 84 Grand Prix complete had just been added on ebay with a £60 buy it now so I thought fook it - if I'm gonna grab one this is it. It was in pick up distance so £60 total for the full bike  :)

All original but fookin rusty  :shocked: :buck2:  :LolLolLolLol:

So here is the original ebay pic..........

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/originalebaypic.jpg)


And here's the rusty little fooker after i got it back home...........

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto01.jpg)

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto02.jpg)

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto03.jpg)

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto04.jpg)

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto05.jpg)


Needs some TLC  :LolLolLolLol:

I'm spending fook all on this ( well as close to as poss ! )

So it's lemon juice / vinegar / foil etc. and if the likes of the chainwheel can't be rescued cos they're too far gone then some chrome appliance paint may get used  :shocked: :2funny:

Ahh well it'll be a laugh.

Low priority this fooker so I'll just keep this diary rolling with updates in between my other builds.........

Thanks for the tip off Kev (I think  :-\ )  :LolLolLolLol:

Only messin' mate - nice one  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Bargain basement £60 budget build diary........(1984 mongoose Grand Prix)
Post by: NORTY40 on May 10, 2010, 11:08 PM
Hope you have got shares in Tesco John as that is going to need a fair bit of Lemon juice and vinegar   :D  :LolLolLolLol:

Sure you will do her proud mate and for £60 notes  :shocked:  you can't argue with that , my kind of buy that John  ;)

Looking forward to the next update  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Bargain basement £60 budget build diary........(1984 mongoose Grand Prix)
Post by: bobafett on May 10, 2010, 11:12 PM

Hope you have got shares in Tesco John as that is going to need a fair bit of Lemon juice and vinegar   :D  :LolLolLolLol:


No sh!t  :LolLolLolLol:

Could do with a bath full of vinegar this could  :shocked:

I'll try the frame first  ;)

Title: Re: Bargain basement £60 budget build diary........(1984 mongoose Grand Prix)
Post by: NORTY40 on May 10, 2010, 11:16 PM

Hope you have got shares in Tesco John as that is going to need a fair bit of Lemon juice and vinegar   :D  :LolLolLolLol:


No sh!t  :LolLolLolLol:

Could do with a bath full of vinegar this could  :shocked:

I'll try the frame first  ;)



Why don't you just give it to me to spray , I have loads of White and Pink left over from Olivia's 'olsgoose' project  :D
Title: Re: Bargain basement £60 budget build diary........(1984 mongoose Grand Prix)
Post by: bobafett on May 10, 2010, 11:19 PM

That may well be what happens  :LolLolLolLol:

I'll try and save the frame first but some of the other bits I'm sure will need coating - I'm not re-chroming anything that's for sure  :shocked:

It'd cost more to re-chrome the wheels than it cost me to buy the whole bike  :LolLolLolLol:

Title: Re: Bargain basement £60 budget build diary........(1984 mongoose Grand Prix)
Post by: markyp on May 11, 2010, 05:28 PM
good deal there john at £60, cant grumble at that :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Bargain basement £60 budget build diary........(1984 mongoose Grand Prix)
Post by: series.1.rs.turbo on May 11, 2010, 06:21 PM
Much cheapness, will be great to see it resto'd  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Bargain basement £60 budget build diary........(1984 mongoose Grand Prix)
Post by: Kaner on May 11, 2010, 07:00 PM
John thats cool, quite a resto job on your hands there! I comprehensive rust removal program is needed on that bugger. Good luck with it.
Title: Re: Bargain basement £60 budget build diary........(1984 mongoose Grand Prix)
Post by: ED209 on May 12, 2010, 06:15 AM
put a mongoose sticker on bucket of rust and you'll try and save it...

mongoositis is bad for your health  >:D
Title: Re: Bargain basement £60 budget build diary........(1984 mongoose Grand Prix)
Post by: kdw712 on May 12, 2010, 10:28 AM
well good luck with this one  :idiot2:
looks like it needs needs lots of TLC


 :LolLolLolLol:

Title: Re: Bargain basement £60 budget build diary........(1984 mongoose Grand Prix)
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on May 12, 2010, 02:26 PM


i didnt realise they was worth money, i binned one at christmas
Title: Re: Bargain basement £60 budget build diary........(1984 mongoose Grand Prix)
Post by: ozone on May 12, 2010, 09:54 PM
Are the forks bent?  They look like they have a lot of rake on the eBay pic. :-\  Nice find and an easy fix if the forks are bent...
Title: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 21/5 Frame Cleaned Up
Post by: bobafett on May 21, 2010, 02:32 PM

Right then stripped everything down and hit the frame with vinegar and tin foil  ;)

Quite pleased how it's cleaned up so it's staying chrome and the decals look alright too.........

Result !  :LolLolLolLol:

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto06.jpg)

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto07.jpg)


Peeled the rim strips out of the wheels and the were caked in rust  :buck2:

Thought they may have been bin fodder but..........

Hot soapy water scrub and they look OK........

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto11.jpg)


As for the rest of the bits well.........

They're pretty fookin rusty  :shocked:  :LolLolLolLol:

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto09.jpg)


Into the big tub for the non-alloy parts.........

Loads of vinegar to be added ! :crazy2:

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto10.jpg)


 :D


Still determined to spend fook all on this build  :LolLolLolLol:

Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 21/5 Frame Cleaned Up
Post by: kdw712 on May 21, 2010, 02:41 PM
going well so far - great results
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 21/5 Frame Cleaned Up
Post by: Rodgy1970 on May 21, 2010, 02:47 PM
 :shocked:  thats a big tub 

frame is looking good   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 21/5 Frame Cleaned Up
Post by: Peter J on May 21, 2010, 02:51 PM
John

That frame looks the dogs dangly bits....whats is like close up ?

We done fella  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 21/5 Frame Cleaned Up
Post by: stevochb on May 21, 2010, 03:00 PM
Looking good :daumenhoch: cant wait to see it built.
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 21/5 Frame Cleaned Up
Post by: sid1972 on May 21, 2010, 03:27 PM
there will be a national shortage of vinegar after you have finished that lot.

top work mate!

sell me a frame.   :angel:

:daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 21/5 Frame Cleaned Up
Post by: magna13 on May 21, 2010, 03:27 PM
looking very forward to this build :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 21/5 Frame Cleaned Up
Post by: NORTY40 on May 21, 2010, 08:08 PM
 :shocked: Frames come up well John  :daumenhoch:



there will be a national shortage of vinegar after you have finished that lot.


 ;D  

How much are you spending on vinegar  ???


Great job so far Mr Fett  8)
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 21/5 Frame Cleane
Post by: In2 bmx on May 21, 2010, 08:32 PM
Vinegar can do this  ??? Wow  :daumenhoch:
Title: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed....
Post by: bobafett on July 17, 2010, 05:56 PM

Right then back onto my budget fun build  :D  :LolLolLolLol:

I decided vinegar or lemon juice would be too much of a waste to fill the tub so I used water mixed with citric acid powder that I got on ebay.

After 24 hours in the tub the rust was mostly just eaten away !


Before :

(http://www.jpdeane.com/BMX/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto04.jpg)

(http://www.jpdeane.com/BMX/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto05.jpg)

(http://www.jpdeane.com/BMX/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto10.jpg)


After :


(http://www.jpdeane.com/BMX/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto20.jpg)

(http://www.jpdeane.com/BMX/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto21.jpg)

(http://www.jpdeane.com/BMX/mybikes/1984GrandPrix/resto23.jpg)


OK so they're far from perfect but they'll do for this little cheapo survivor build  :angel:

 ;)

Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed....
Post by: markyp on July 17, 2010, 06:02 PM
nice work there john,i cant wait to see this one finished.i had a grand prix frameset yonks ago,it was pretty minty too, i should have kept it and built it as a rider :'(
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed Pg2
Post by: southern andy on July 17, 2010, 06:05 PM
Really good work John  :4_17_5:

It's a shame thought the rust has made a lot of holes in those rims.
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed Pg2
Post by: bobafett on July 17, 2010, 06:12 PM

It's a shame thought the rust has made a lot of holes in those rims.


Yeah mad isn't it - all exactly the same size and spacing  :LolLolLolLol:

Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed Pg2
Post by: southern andy on July 17, 2010, 06:18 PM
Oh yeah, hadn't noticed that, how mad is that.
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed Pg2
Post by: NORTY40 on July 18, 2010, 12:21 AM

 all exactly the same size and spacing  :LolLolLolLol:


Unlike some i could mention   :-[  ::)  :-X





Good work up to now John  :daumenhoch:



PS after you have stained the fence , pull them weeds out of the flags  :D  ???
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed Pg2
Post by: sweetbeats on July 18, 2010, 07:11 AM
Sweet that John...you got shares in Sarson's Vinegar?
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed Pg2
Post by: HARORIDER on July 18, 2010, 07:53 AM
so far looks like this was a major bargain :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed Pg2
Post by: James Nada on July 18, 2010, 08:32 AM
Lovin' this resto.

Can't wait to see it built back up!

Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed Pg2
Post by: moochalargo on July 18, 2010, 11:46 AM
Vinager and tin foil? Tell me what to do please I've got some 401's I was going to rechrome but can I  work some magic as they are almost
Mint just a little bit or surface pooh!

Top job on this build mate
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed Pg2
Post by: bobafett on July 18, 2010, 12:20 PM
Vinager and tin foil? Tell me what to do please I've got some 401's I was going to rechrome but can I  work some magic as they are almost
Mint just a little bit or surface pooh!
Top job on this build mate

1. Bowl of lemon juice or vinegar
2. scrunch up a hand full of tinfoil
3. dip it in the juice regularly
4. rub a dub dub !
5. the tinfoil will start to break down and the juice will become filled with l=tiny sparkley bits
6. keep rubbing - the broken down particles mixed with the juice form a type of mild abrassive compound to remove the rust. Because the foi is softer than the chrome plate it doesn't scratch the chrome.
7. Good luck !

 :)
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed Pg2
Post by: moochalargo on July 18, 2010, 12:25 PM
Cheers dude! That's my day sorted out now then! Lol
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed Pg2
Post by: fischflo on July 18, 2010, 12:28 PM
the big tuuuub  :D
Title: Re: Bargain £60 budget build diary('84 goose GrandPrix) UPDATE 17/6 Rust removed Pg2
Post by: Jon The Bassist on July 18, 2010, 12:30 PM
Excellent!
Me and my dad have started another cheeky little budget build; a survivor.
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