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Old School BMX 1980 - 1988 => Old School Race (riders ready, pedals ready... GO!!) => Topic started by: OrgasmDonor on August 18, 2005, 12:01 PM
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bikes, parts etc, not all big name parts are as good as the hype or how you remember them, some have been pedastilled through old school bias as some have been dismissed, interested to know which products and bits you think are over rated or under rated.
eg,
Over rated
Hutch
chome crap, plenty snapped BITD, crap product sold on the reputation of class Team riders
Diamond Back
Sold to those who couldnt afford a GT, Skyway etc, bit like a poor mans rolls royce.
SE Frames
Look nice but not the strongest frames for the money.
Graphite Tuffs
Give me a break!, oh they will very easily.
Robinson Pro Bars
They look and ride fantastic but have to be the weakest bars ever made
Under Rated
Raliegh Extra Burner
What a fantastic looking BMX, strong as foook
Suntour Stems
compared to hutch tuf-neck,redline,whatever, no stem works as well as the common suntour
Zytecs
Victim of tuff snobbery, sealed bearings and these baby's will forgive long after tuffs have given up
Copy Comp lll's
If your gonna use you bike lots n lots you cant beat em, cheap as f... and when dirty n used who but the most anal will notice
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Under Rated
Raliegh Extra Burner
What a fantastic looking BMX, strong as foook
Couldn't agree more!!!!!!!!!!!! 8) 8) 8) This is mine....
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/DSCF0003.jpg)
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That burner is nice.
Just SHOUTING for some older tuffs though.
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Over rated- Skinny birds
Under rated-Fat birds,as they is always greatful? (like the two stunners in your avatar! :-\)
For the record this post is not mean't to offend anyone,tis merely what i have been told ::)
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i do, as most know, take the mick outa burners and owners, Gypo's etc but the bikes are a true representation of old school, possibly above all others, i have no desire to own one but credit where credit due. :)
i also possess various products i listed in over rated section, so dis me if you wish, but a lot of big name stuff is crap, im sure theres loads more but at mo can't bring to mind.
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Skinny birds def over rated but they are good for throwin about the bedroom, bigger bird feel loads and look loads sexier, though the ladies in my pic are lush you would feel a bit concious walkin down the street in front of your mam with them ;D
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Some Burner Praise!! just when I thought I was gonna have another sh*t day...
Any excuse to post some pics  :D :D :D
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/DSCF0006.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/DSCF0005.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v650/beard1973/pic1.bmp)
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At least the Gypsys are happy, next ;D
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At least the Gypsys are happy, next ;D
VERY!! THANK U!! WANNA BUY SOME PEGS? ;D ;D ;D
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;D
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i'll take a used mattress if you've got one going spare.
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Diamond Back
Sold to those who couldnt afford a GT, Skyway etc, bit like a poor mans rolls royce.
does this go for the harry leary turbo as well, me thinks not
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no the leary turbo was for those who couldnt get hold of a black chrome GT, myself included.
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I agree...
DB SS and Turbo where and still are great bikes....and where not cheap at all.
Don't belive what you have heard.....
greentoad
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Over rated - Haro Freestyler Gen 1 ( still cool as fook tho')
Under rated - Raleigh AeroPro Burner.....gotta be the most underrated bike ever - superb build quality - fantastic Geometry - top end parts - and a complete bike for a few quid more than a T/A frame & Fork would have cost Ya!!
Would have sold loads if it had a Kuwahara sticker!!
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Dissing the Diamond back >:(
The HL Turbo is the rolls royce of bmx... 8)
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scary your just being daft now
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Good
ESP stems as good if not better than any hype about them
Hutch Head locks chrome might come off but no loose head set ever cool by me
Front Brakes on race bikes how may suckers have I out braked into tight 180 berms (Remember Teeside Mr Ruffell)
185mm Redline Flights might bend spindles like they are butter but no better advantage out the gate exists
Redline forklifter Bars 20years of abuse and no bends yet.
Bad
Race incs and Loop tail rippers weak as Feck
The Head angles of JMC and March Bikes no good what so ever on a fast dry track (I own a JMC Shadow I know)
Hutch Forks look at them they bend (three sets in 1984)
Grippa and Comp 4 tyres WHY comp 2 and three were much better
Hutch Aero speeds recongnised a crap even back then
Later
A.
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Good:
Everything Diamond back
Bad:
Everything else
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coaster brake rear tuffs would crack all round the hub and the metal hub fronts would collapse.tuf neck hollow stem bolts would break every time you wanted to change f+f.most stuff lasted quite well for the technology we had back then.lets just say it wasn't supposed to last forever ! ;)
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HAVE TO AGREE WITH SCARY -
DIAMOND BACK THE BEST, EVERYTHING ELSE , yawn, excuse me ,boring!!! :-\
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BITD I think the Mongoose Proclass was about the most expensive complete bike you could buy which retailed at £399. The DB Turbo was a bargain at £335, give me one of those over the Mongoose any day!
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The Hutch Pro Star was the most expensive bike bitd approx £1000.
Ok, I am biased but I love the Mongoose Pro Class, the DB HL Turbo is gorgeous but I don't think the Pro Class should be so easily dismissed.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/PCNEW3.jpg)
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at least you have better taste in bikes than cars ;D
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lol, thats the fiancees car, she loves it and will not change it.
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Over Rated. - Most of the USA bikes.
Under Rated - UK bikes with the build quality of Rickman, Curtis and March
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Over Rated ---
CW PRO BARS - WAY OVER RATED
Under Rated
POWERLITE ALLOY BARS - THE BEST BY FAR BITD
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orb alot of the u.k stuff was copied from u.s stuff and they weren't much cop at getting it right either.the rickman freestyler geometry is awful and if you want to see worse just look at the burners.only the tange burners were any good.curtis stuff wasn't that strong either but not as bad as the vincent stuff :o never knew anyone with a march.probaly thats why they were selling them all off mid 90's at cyclesport...
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stidds i had an ex fiance like that.only had two minis in 9 years.the first one got written off.it would have only been one otherwise and she was upset about it for weeks.silly cow.she soon forgot about it though when the cooper arrived.women= FICKLE ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Over-Rated = Minis ;)
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Over-Rated = Minis ;)
and VW split screens
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in the 60's the mini was under rated.now its dead but still fantastic as ever in terms of handling and steering feel.the only thing close today on both counts is a lotus elise.now overated a 911.ever tried to drive one quick ! SCARY :o
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over rated ---tuffs
underated ---- z rims a good rider can use these no probs
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Them Z's working out for ya Greg? I may have some peds for ya! pm me. Ad ;)
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Good:
Everything Diamond back
Bad:
Everything else
oooooo techy! techy!
pretty shallow and not at all bias or chidish at all.
i own and use the over rated stuff i listed, im not saying stuff is great just cos i like it. i personally think the DB HLT is one of the most shite full bikes lookin bikes ive seen, but i wasnt bein personal i was just sayin they are over rated. i didnt put down any of my current rides cos they arent over rated or under rated to my knowledge, they are just decent usable bikes.
chill dude n widen your horizons, theres a whole world out there :}
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maybe i need too turn the peak on my helmet upside down..
could give me a whole new perspective on life ;)
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Over rated- all that new school crap
under rated- green streetbeats (still skyway and the coolest rear platform).
ligbee.
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maybe i need too turn the peak on my helmet upside down..
could give me a whole new perspective on life ;)
;D ;D ;D Nice one! and i thought i was anonymous :-[
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Over-Rated = Minis ;)
and VW split screens
depends on whether you have a rot free single with all around porsche brakes :D
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5d930b3127cce9286c2f0668800000016108EZNWjJoya4)
-i know someone with a nos boxed skyway streetbeat f/f and its green, and for sale ;)
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Feck! :o this thread still going?
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Over-rated - PK Ripper Looptails (And I own 1)
Gutted when I had it built up, It looked the nuts bit rides like poo (Maybe a bit harsh but I've ridden much nicer bikes, like Redline's and Diamond backs.)
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Under Rated........
Definately Aero Zytec wheels....And my cro-mo Burner mark 2 tange frame.Been riding this for weeks,and ramping it. The wheels are Fookin ace!! The bike ride like a dream.
Over Rated. Pk ripper mark 1......has the same welds as all the Burners which aren't the tange frame ones ;D ;D. Here's the cro-mo with Zytecs
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y107/juliantaff/DSCN1358.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y107/juliantaff/DSCN1361.jpg)
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Over-Rated = Minis ;)
and VW split screens
wish it would drop the price on splits then i could get one :(
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Over-Rated = Minis ;)
and VW split screens
wish it would drop the price on splits then i could get one :(
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=208145
this ones a mere 18,500 :o
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crazy prices at mo give it another month or two and the prices will drop due to winter months ,i hope
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overated = hutch aerospeed cranks.defo form over function ;) what a cock up they were and an expensive one at that...
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in the 60's the mini was under rated.now its dead but still fantastic as ever in terms of handling and steering feel.the only thing close today on both counts is a lotus elise.now overated a 911.ever tried to drive one quick ! SCARY :o
Been trying to post piccies but they are too big. 911 never overated...... I have had a Silver MK 1 GT3 (with no traction control) for the last 2 and a bit years and its easy to drive quick in the dry, in the wet you just go a bit easier with the right foot! ;)
Overated: ebay at the moment.... starting to get very paranoid with everything I buy...... do they actually own it? Are they that actual seller or have they nicked their log in? :-\
P.S. GT3 is for sale if anyone is interested, gutted but it has to go......
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With you on splitties 2 engines in 2 months. They weigh 2 and a quarter tons as a van then they put camper gear in and expect it to last on a 50bhp air cooled piece of shite
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over rated pkradmans collection
under rated my collection ;D
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radmans collection is top notch mate lets see the pics again hutch nice .
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JMC? UNDER RATED! (especially at the end of the 80's...)
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Missed the obvious under rated TR7 but only with the V8. Over rated TR8 its a watered down smogged up version of V8 and its a soft top.Stick to the works rally cars.(http://x1.putfile.com/10/28613513295.jpg) (http://www.putfile.com)
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Not the love for the sport but the love for collecting... UNDER RATED! Why?!? Because you tell me if there are REAL friends here DUE TO collecting!
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Not the love for the sport but the love for collecting... UNDER RATED! Why?!? Because you tell me if there are REAL friends here DUE TO collecting!
wtf????
Dave
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I've definitely met people I would call 'real friends' here through collecting..