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Title: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on July 21, 2010, 07:57 AM
I'm gonna be helping my dad build this, a 1984 Falcon Pro cruiser F&F:
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs202.snc4/38433_10150214126480372_895155371_13857678_4926752_n.jpg)

It will be built as a budget rider (maybe occasional racer); a Falcon Pro was my dad's first cruiser BitD. We'll be using mix n match parts, so we'll be looking for cheap 10mm hubs, 3-piece crank, racing stem etc etc if anyone has owt? We'd prefer rider condition bits that still work well.
Jon
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: James Nada on July 21, 2010, 08:16 PM
Here are your bars Jon  :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww127/badgerpigdog/100_3357.jpg)
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: bobbysam on July 21, 2010, 09:07 PM
can't help with any parts, but good luck.....Proud Mary keeps on burnin'
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: bof on July 21, 2010, 10:27 PM
I have a pair of sun bfr cruiser rims you can have for £10 . I probably have some tyres you can have as well jon if you want. LMK
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on July 21, 2010, 10:41 PM
Woohoo! thanks guys  :4_17_5:  :4_17_5:
Bof - I'll have a word with my dad, see if he wants to go down the route of getting them built up.
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on July 21, 2010, 10:56 PM
Bof - you're on mate, we'll take the rims, and also tyres if you do turn any up.
We'll not be at Coppull this weekend, so we can meet up another time.
Cheers, Jon
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: rooski on July 22, 2010, 03:04 PM
what gearing are you going for ???
is seat post normal size ???
whats the clour scheme ???

Rooski
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on July 22, 2010, 03:27 PM
Andy,

Would be going for 41:18 (authentic OS style) or 39:17. Very unlikely to want/need to change gearing once it's up and running.
Seatpost would be normal diameter.
Colour scheme could be anything, this is gonna be a proper mix n match rider. Given a choice would probably prefer chrome/silver/red/black or any variation! (So far got chrome frame/fork/seatclamp/headset/bars, black seat/rims if Bof's rims are the ones I'm thinking of and hopefully red grips).

Jon
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: rooski on July 22, 2010, 07:22 PM
will have a root around for ya!
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: rooski on July 22, 2010, 07:40 PM
got some bits that may be suitable ???
freewheels,shimano17t, suntour 17t/18t,
tuf neck chainwheel 39t,pink,new
sugino ring gold,40t
sugino spider,black powdered
black rear cable
stainless post :LolLolLolLol:
 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on July 22, 2010, 08:26 PM
Andy - top banana  :daumenhoch:

Yep, can we take the Shimano 17T freewheel (Suntour fine though if there's owt wrong with the Shimano one).
tuf neck 39T chainwheel.
black rear brake cable.
Rooski special handcrafted seatpost, in whatever length is standard.

Cheers, Jon
(I assume it's a full chainwheel, so don't need a separate spider).
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: rooski on July 22, 2010, 08:50 PM
jon,will bring all the bits to bradders on tues ,just checked tuf neck(full chainwheel) is 41t,so 18t freewheel ???
do you need any brake levers,got some rh ones i wont be using

Rooski :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on July 22, 2010, 09:19 PM
18T Suntour freewheel would be perfect then!
A rh lever would be good as we've only got a battered one that I was gonna try and restore.
Yes, I'll bring some cash on Tuesday, so just let me know at some point how much. I'll be there rain or shine.
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: bof on July 22, 2010, 11:24 PM
Bof - you're on mate, we'll take the rims, and also tyres if you do turn any up.
We'll not be at Coppull this weekend, so we can meet up another time.
Cheers, Jon

Cool Jon they are there when you want them . I  could pass them on to some of the bradford guys at coppull or MK if you like . LMK :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on July 22, 2010, 11:28 PM
Nice one Bof  :daumenhoch:  I'll be at MK if it's convenient for you to bring them.
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on July 28, 2010, 01:55 PM
Sourcing parts is going well. Might have hubs and tyres to go with the rims courtesy of Bofster. We now only defo need spokes, someone to build the wheels, crank+BB, pedals, chain and stem. Happy days!
ps I'll have some pound notes with me this weekend for any likely bits :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on August 07, 2010, 06:56 PM
Update, this is what we have so far (not including brake, lever etc). Pretty much all the other essential stuff is ordered or on the way, wheels will be built soon also:

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs289.snc4/40800_10150225275665372_895155371_14201477_7980460_n.jpg)

Huge thanks to all the Northern Monkeys that have sold me stuff very cheap, or donated parts  :smitten:
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: motomagII on August 08, 2010, 09:40 AM
john my cranks are now going spare matey .give me pm if ya wanna come get em .
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on August 09, 2010, 12:05 AM
PMd  8)
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on August 29, 2010, 10:00 PM
Next stage - built up finger tight this afternoon. I found out that we need a different spacer for the bottom bracket and a tophat washer for the chainwheel. I'm very pleased with it so far:

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs428.snc4/47156_10150240670810372_895155371_14650179_6155218_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: fischflo on August 29, 2010, 10:15 PM

looks like proper fun !    How about some decals?  :)

Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on August 29, 2010, 10:23 PM

looks like proper fun !    How about some decals?  :)


I think so!  It's my dad's bike so I'll see what he says.
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: James Nada on August 30, 2010, 07:00 PM
It's my dad's bike ....

that still brings a smile to my face.

I'm sure it'll be wiped off though when I get beaten by a 60 year old at the next Bradford regional!
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on September 03, 2010, 09:39 AM
Decals on the way from del  :daumenhoch:
Thanks Rooski for the spacer tube and MotomagII for the tophat washer (we did need the wider one)  :4_17_5:
It all went together well last night, needed quite a few spacers for that width of crank axle, but all done now. I had a ride up and down the pavement in the dark. First impressions - light (for an OS cruiser), springy, and fairly short (but definitely rideable). Although the frame feels a little bit flexy, the drive train certainly isn't, and it leaps forward when you push down on the pedals.

Greg - I'll definitely take that frame pad when I next see you if it's still going, just let me know of fundage required  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: brettypeeps on September 03, 2010, 09:43 AM
Looking great for a budget build :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: bof on September 03, 2010, 10:01 AM
 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on September 10, 2010, 01:44 PM
The decals arrived yesterday courtesy of Del - they look spiffing. Got a nice frame pad reserved via MotomagII which will finish it off nicely.
The bike finally saw some action last night as my dad joined us for training at Bradford. He took it pretty steady but had no problems whatsoever with the bike. I just took it through the last rhythm section once and it handled fine, obviously if felt weird as eveything was different to my Haro.
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on December 14, 2010, 03:39 PM
This should be getting raced this Sunday  :daumenhoch:
With the bad weather my dad hasn't done enough riding to be safe racing us lot, so I get to have a go on this.
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on February 16, 2011, 01:03 PM
...that race was cancelled unfortunately.

So I raced the Falcon Pro Beta 24 for the first time last night. I was the only rider actually on an OS bike and did okay apart from the 2nd moto when I turned the bars on the gate and had to roll round after everyone else. After I re-tightened the stem in the fork steerer (where it slipped) it was fine.  I also stretched the chain quite a bit when warming up but I do that on all bikes so no problem there, moving the wheel back got it all tensioned up nicely. It's not a long frame and I did crack my knees a couple of times when warming up but I didn't have a problem when racing - maybe not the best racebike for really lanky (6'2"+ ?) guys.

It was good to get 7 on the gate with me Iain, and Paul all having raced in the 80s. I know Paul Phillips is searching for an OS racebike but he's gonna need a l-o-n-g bike.  Iain the MTBer is looking for a cruiser but I reckon it might be a NS one.
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: mattfx81 on February 16, 2011, 01:45 PM
I had planned to get up last night for a race but my mrs car failed its MOT yesterday so ive had to stump up the dollars for parts and its a £25 return trip in my van... Ive got my Amtrac up for sale again Jon if you mention it to paul philips, its a 21" and with a pro xxl stem on it should be more than comfortable for 6ft plus riders, I think charles (amtrac) townsend was around the 6ft 2" mark.

Matt
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: Jon The Bassist on February 16, 2011, 01:58 PM
No worries mate, I know it's a long trip - I'd be doing Crewe this weekend if I could afford £60 in diesel for the return trip on top of everything else for me and F to race for the day.
I will mention the Amtrac to Paul when I next see him  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Budget build pt2 - Big Wheels keep on turnin'
Post by: mattfx81 on February 16, 2011, 02:00 PM
Your motor must be proper heavy on the juice! cheers pal.
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