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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: emerbmx on July 30, 2010, 03:15 PM
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I'm sure it's not but...
I was fed up of seeing fixies and fed up of being overtaken by mountain bike's, racers and folding bikes.
I still ride my 20 inch alot, but for long distances I'll ride this.
I've been working on this for quite some time, the sketches started about 2 and half years ago, but thanks to Mark Noble who hooked me up with a quality manufacturer, I received some prototypes earlier this year.
The idea behind it is to make a BMX which can beat fixies to the pub- Plus I wanted the cruiser to have identical geometry to a modern BMX so the bike remains responsive and manuals are easier.
I commissioned Seb Lester, an ex flatland rider and one of the best type designers in the UK to design the graphics.
and if design is your thing there's a story about it on the Creative Review website
The frame is in prototype stages at the moment, I have a handful available
check below for details
http://www.emerbicycles.com/
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj175/emerbmx/bike.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj175/emerbmx/front.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj175/emerbmx/swift-frame.jpg)
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What's everyones thoughts on this before it faces the onslaught :2gunsfiring_v1: of the 'less considered' forums.
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i shouldnt like it......
but i do strangely :smitten:
something about it makes me think raleigh super burner, maybe its just the black and gold?
i want one to commute to work on,
maybe not with the "haemmoroid inducing" seat!
can i test one with a view to buy?
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i really like it and would suit my fat lazy riding style much better.... :daumenhoch:
though i would like to see a comfier seat... :LolLolLolLol:
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The wheels look fookin massive-love the raleigh 70's racer tyres though-look well quick :daumenhoch:
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:) Looks good,is it up to being thrown around on street or a track? And why a caliper brake?
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Thanks for comments guys.
Dark Sunday
good point- on not wanting to like it
For me- it's not in anyway meant to replace a 20 inch - as nothing can in my opinion.
but it's a hell of a lot closer than any or these ridiculous 'fixie feels just like a bmx' claims.
I've rode it in the bowl at Cantelowes and it feels alot like my 20inch (as it's the blueprint for the geometry).
The adaption from a 20 is pretty seamless.- but I won't be replacing my 20 anytime soon.
I only have a couple of prototypes at the moment, but if you're ever in the area, you're welcome to have a go on it.
Meticulous
you're right the seat sucks for comfort, i've just bought a slim padded seat for it.
Sweebeats, yep I wanted it pretty tight and responsive, and I'm loving the tanwalls at the moment
Voivod
the quality and metals share the same quality manufacturing as Deluxe BMX.
It wasn't designed for Dan Lacey style 3s down a 20 step but it's certainly designed to hold up to a minimum of smooth airing and jumping.
re the caliper- I wanted to keep the bike as sleek as possible, (I was almost even tempted to go for a 1inch headset, then I woke up)
I've found double pivot calipers really strong performers, nice and compact.
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:coolsmiley:
Tanwalls it is then :daumenhoch:
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cool,
tanwalls really suit it,
they put me in mind of my old bsa with cowhorns,
nostalgia,
right, i need to lie down.
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cool,
tanwalls really suit it,
they put me in mind of my old bsa with cowhorns,
nostalgia,
right, i need to lie down.
Had never even heard of Tanwalls until today :LolLolLolLol:
Cow handelbars and stand up wheelies ahhhhhh happy days :crazy2:
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Im actually liking that a lot, if your ever down south, id love to take it for a spin. Well done :daumenhoch:
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well done JOhann, really well done!
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The other week when you told me you were working on this bike i had NO clue what you were saying. But seeing it now it all makes sense. Its really nice, and I totally get what you mean, riding into town fast but still able to hop around and get the front wheel up. I use a 24" BMX for a similar thing but its got big comp3s on it and its not very fast. I have thought a few times about "slickin" it up; the clean good looks of a "fixie" (but without the idiot riding it) and all the fun of a BMX.
I like it loads, nice one :daumenhoch:
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Liking that ALOT!!!!
Could do with one for commuting myself, what's the pricing for the full bike?
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something about it makes me think raleigh super burner, maybe its just the black and gold?
Ultra Burner.... :police:
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Hey Johann
The bike is looking good, but those graphics are so rad! Still loving them since i saw them on the CR site a few weeks ago.
JJ
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Thanks guys, good to hear from alot of you
Alex you've hit the nail on the head
riding into town fast but still able to hop around and get the front wheel up. I use a 24" BMX for a similar thing but its got big comp3s on it and its not very fast. I have thought a few times about "slickin" it up; the clean good looks of a "fixie" (but without the idiot riding it) and all the fun of a BMX.
good to hear from you Jim,
no price yet, but certainly cheaper than a decent road bike
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good to hear from you Jim,
no price yet, but certainly cheaper than a decent road bike
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Bo-lax recently spent £600 on a road bike :tickedoff:
Let me know when they are ready to sell :daumenhoch:
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Looking nice and retro :daumenhoch: Uber cool
great colour Scheme :daumenhoch:
Yeah I agree that I shouldn't like it but for some reason I do
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looks good :daumenhoch:
i ride a flat handle bar road bike to work everyday (20 mile round trip)
they can be ridden like a bmx it just takes a little more effort/control, hopping up and down kerbs is easy aswell as wheelies and my manuals are getting better, no footied nose wheelies to a stop at the traffic lights is next :D :D :D
its quite funny when i pass a lycra clad roadie's then hop off the kerb then hop back up into a manual, then look back and watch them bump both wheels up the kerb :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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Cool project dude. Like some of the others it's saying ultra burner to me!
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I'm thinking sexy skinny Bomber - really like it - graphics are sick :angel:
and F**K the less considered forums BTW :2gunsfiring_v1:
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when we catch back up ,i will pop up to london and try it out..as alex said i wasnt sure how it would look/work but i see
what you mean..
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Seems to be to be a solution looking for a problem.
This is just a bmx with big wheels. There are already cruisers for that, and if you want a fast bike, you get a racing/hybrid frame - ergonomically, they just work better. Off road ? Cyclocross. If you want a shorter easier geometry, you get an mtb or a cruiser. You want to go quick but comfy, get a hybrid.
Who is this aimed at exactly? A Bmx that, er can't bmx, or a racer that, er can't race.
What is the point of a chunky, heavy frame, overbuilt frame and adding 700c wheels? And surely not to go with the design ethic, theyre not 23's are they? You want speed, but this thing with the need for 100+psi will be blowing pinch/snakebite flats every ride. Its like putting lipstick on a pig. Even 650c wheels might work better. It's like you thought of the problem of wanting bigger wheels and a chunky frame and instead of inventing the mtb, because that was 30 years ago, you got all thr wrong answers and came up with this.
Dont get me wrong, its a funky design, but in much the same way as my idea for a convertible submarine....
If somes got an mtb for off road or a cruiser for off road/bmx duties, and a hybrid/road bike for other duties, then the cyclocross niche already fulfills slight off road with big wheels. Who is actually going to pay money to add to this if they already got 2-3 bikes (like me) or to the point, who's going to ditch one of those, for this. You can stick skinny tyres or rims on many mtb's. Even my Orange p7 will accomodate them. Whats this do that anOrange p7 single speed with 650 or 700cs and long rigid forks do?
I like it, but it isn't the answer to anything, nor will it sell well or make you a decent return on your investment imho.
But if you believe, don't listen to the naysayers like me.
Now, if you can make me an old school, chrome plated, gussetted looptail 24 or 26, like the fabled but rarely sighted Diamond Back cruisers of the early 80's, then your talking.
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well, i like it. And i could imagine enough others, too, to make this skinny bomber -- ED209 hit it-- gain some airspace
----the rebirth idea i like; don't understand why it hasn't been done since a long time already
at first sight on the first pic it looked dark grey-blue -very nice
range at last !! now nothing can stop us !!!! ;)
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Harris, call us if you ever pop down.
Good to hear all your thoughts.
Juju your idea for the convertible submarine sounds ace!
send me the blueprints!
Cruising along in a submarine, popping up, and then cruising the beach for chicks sounds the dream. :D
Seriously though- the difference between a 13.75 chainstay length and 15 inch is a big deal for me on a cruiser.
I'm quite fussy about geometry, but if you're not then fair enough.
thanks for your post though, I'm sure I will hear similar opinions to yours from others.
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I thought you guys might like to see this.
The latest Swift build
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj175/emerbmx/topviewlores2042.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj175/emerbmx/swiftchromefrontview.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj175/emerbmx/side3.jpg)
The Swift project originally started from yearning for a Hutch cruiser, and after spending most of my childhood (and adulthood) gazing at chrome Hutchs, this build was inspired by that craving.
Here's a short video of Brixton Billy riding the original Swift
Not a valid vimeo URL
I have a very limited number of the prototypes for sale (3) and I'm willing to do a special offer for any Radsters genuinely interested (pm)
http://emerbicycles.bigcartel.com/
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that looks nice and sleek mate, and the chrome one looks the bolux :daumenhoch:
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Johan,
Just read all the thread and I tip my hat to you pal, its fantastic that your putting your ideas into practice, the frames look amazing mate and next time I'm round your taking your haro off ya I'll take if for a spin 8)
Well done fella
Al
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Johann I really like it, looks fast mate ;)
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Nice one Griff, & cheers Al :daumenhoch:
Hey Mat did someone mention Haro? Do you have a keyword finder on here or something.
Only kidding mate, hope you're well- do you still have the Pro racer?
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Epic work fella. Being a real short ass a twenty does me fine for bombing around on, but id consider that chrome one for something diffent and a bit more laid back, in fact i like the larger black one too great work
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Jaymz, I'm bringing the 22" wheel bad-boy to MK for you to try mate..... you're gonna love it >:D
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That chrome one looks the nuts!! :daumenhoch:
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Jaymz, I'm bringing the 22" wheel bad-boy to MK for you to try mate..... you're gonna love it >:D
You still got that?? Wicked amte, always fancied one
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I like it but you do have competition at a reasonable price
www.bigbmx.com
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Nice! Think the oddy stem on the first one suits it better but thats just me, for new school stuff those v3 stems are class :smitten:
Can i be really cheeky and ask who is fabricating them for you? I have been looking into getting my own bmx frame design made now for some time and the best price i have so far is £900 for a prototype and around £475 on the assumption i order 25. I will understand if you dont want to divulge your contacts but it would be greatly appreciated if you can.
Cheers, oldschoolace :daumenhoch:
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Thanks for the comments guys. oldschoolace you have a pm
To my knowledge this is still the only lightweight, low bb, 13.75 chainstay cruiser.
I do have a couple of these frames available and I'd like to offer a discount to Radsters
if anyones interested pm me.
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Thought you guys might like to see this
A custom build for Dwayne Bather in NYC.
Kitted out with nice new Deluxe sealed pedals / seat clamp :D, and some skinny Sinz foldables!
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj175/emerbmx/downtubeandpedal.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj175/emerbmx/seatclamp.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj175/emerbmx/bars.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj175/emerbmx/complete.jpg)
For more info check
http://www.emerbmx.com/
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Absolutely gorgeous Brother.
You have had the balls to jump forward 5yrs in cruiser developement.
Cruisers were crying out for a 13.75 rear end but the big companies like to trickle feed their changes in geometry.
Even with the short back end the proportions (helped massively by the sensible standover height) still look absolutely right.
Can we have some more specs please ie: Headangle etc... ?
I fancy one.
Keep the faith Brother. L
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That looks ace :4_17_5:
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Bloody Lurvellee! :4_17_5:
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Very very nice looking bike that :4_17_5:
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That looks lovely.....
but the bottom bracket looks a bit low, to me..... ::)
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looks nice pm me a price of what they cost for frames and forks
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Hi
thanks for your interest
I've only just seen this reply
here's the page for the prices,
http://emerbicycles.bigcartel.com/
let me know what you're keen on and we maybe able to sort out a deal :)
Many thanks Johann
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Hello johann old bean. Haven't seen you in years. If you are ever near great Ormond street hospital on a Tuesday lunchtime I will probably be there if you want a cup of tea. Otherwise i must drag backside down Tgm sometime soon..ish.
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hey Dan Dare the Swift MK1 bb is 11.5 with 24X1&3/8th rims.
Stuntmaster you have a pm on 2 deal options.
Chris Job- I work by there- so yes lunch or ride at Cantelowes bowl sounds good!pm coming
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New edit of the Swift in action featuring Chico Hooke, Brixton Billy & Will Herman
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What size wheels are on the version in the latest clip? Look like they can take some stick. :daumenhoch:
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Hey Gary
hows tricks
the larger wheels are the 24X1&3/8th
cheers