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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: Jamroll on October 18, 2010, 10:50 PM
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OK,
I've got a few threads going on at the moment reference this project, i though it would be easier just to stick all under one roof :daumenhoch:
I put a shout out in the wanted section for a CW Freestyler way back in August 2009, Emerbmx answered my call (thx Johan :daumenhoch: ) The bike he had was a stickered a CW Flyer, wasn't exactley what i was after but these CW's don't seem to come up that often ::)
Went upto London to collect ,The Frame, Forks and Bars were in a pretty good state, had no seat by this time, but the other bits were a little battered and bruised, Front Fork pegs were battered, Rear Frame Pegs had overspray on them from where the rims had been painted and the tyres where badly cracked
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/OriginalCW.jpg)
She stayed in the garage in this state until a few weeks ago when i decided enough was enough so started stripping back the parts to see what could be used and wot couldn't for this build,
Stripped the frame back to its Raw state, still a little more to do with her before i can get polished up.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010451.jpg)
Need to get all this paint out
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010454.jpg)
Nice details on frame & Forks still
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010452.jpg)
Forks & Rear Dropouts are pretty good
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010457.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010458.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010453.jpg)
After doing a bit of homework found out that the frame number dictates that i has a Cali Boulevard not a flyer..fookin result :)
Bars have a bit of pittin and surface rust but nothing too bad.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010449.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010450-1.jpg)
Rear Pegs have had a little attention from me and are beginning to get to a point where i can start polishing getting them ready for a rechrome,
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1000100.jpg)
After putting up a recent thread on here about whether or not to get the frame, forks & bars chromed before having the powder put over the top the bike will be done chromed and then powdered (post on the left (Thx ED209 for sending some old bent posts down to SBD and thx SBD for turning them around so quick)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010409.jpg)
I've thought long and hard about this and though doing this is gonna cost me an arm and a leg & the F&F and bars will have to be polished to within and inch of there lives before going off to chrome I think it will be worth it, Bars will be stayin chrome :daumenhoch:
This should be be heading down to Custom Metal Polishers in Portsmouth Wednesday this week and will be turned around in approx 3 weeks, emplained that i want the serial number and any other markins left well alone :knuppel2:
When back probably off to Hockley Chromers along with a Tuff Neck Power Disc and some Araya 7X and hubs...
Keep you posted how this all works out.
Al :daumenhoch:
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sounds stunning, cant wait to see this done :daumenhoch:
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+1 ;)
good choice with the chrome 8)
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+1 ;)
good choice with the chrome 8)
+2 deffo a good choice.
Quirky little frame and fork set that, love the bars - they were my favs bitd and thanks to Harorider I am also the proud owner of a set of them :daumenhoch: . But mine are white, they may turn chrome but I am undecided ::).
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Was there another frame that was almost identical to that?(no CW stamping)
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Was there another frame that was almost identical to that?(no CW stamping)
Hutchman, I think your right. I do remember seeing a frame not too long ago that looks bloody similar to this one, not sure about the overall dimensions being the same, but I think the foot stand was almost identical....I'll have a hunt around for a pic ::)
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Was there another frame that was almost identical to that?(no CW stamping)
Hutchman, I think your right. I do remember seeing a frame not too long ago that looks bloody similar to this one, not sure about the overall dimensions being the same, but I think the foot stand was almost identical....I'll have a hunt around for a pic ::)
I've got one gathering dust under the bed,but has some nasty grinding on the rear end of the chain stays,remember being told it was where the standing platforms had been removed.
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Can't wait to see this bad boy all painted up... It will be to nice to build :4_17_5:
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Can't wait to see this bad boy all painted up... It will be to nice to build :4_17_5:
Nervous about the build tbh ???, can you imagine wot state I'm gonna be in tapping in the bearing cups after this paint job :uglystupid2:
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get em pressed in by the LBS :daumenhoch:
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get em pressed in by the LBS :daumenhoch:
LBS, que?
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Local Bike Shop
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Local Bike Shop
:uglystupid2: fookin hell, duuuuuugh
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I thought it was Large Ball Sack? :LolLolLolLol:
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fingers crossed on the chroming fella,its a fookin lottery i tell thee.i cant wait to see this one finished,ive always :smitten: cw's in all shapes and forms
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Thing is though - how much do you trust your local bike shop with your new frame after it's been through approximately £400 worth of resto work ? :-\ :shocked:
Think i'd be putting the bearing cups in myself maybe with the help of a mate if you need a spare set of hands in the process ;)
Here's how I do it..........
1. Use a dremmel to clean the insides of the bottom bracket hanger of any overspray.
2. Pop the bearing cups in a food baggy and sit them in the freezer for a couple of hours.
3. Grease the bottom bracket hanger & the cups.
4. Give them a gentle tap with a rubber or wooden mallet to start them off.
5. Press them in using a home made press ( short length of 10mm threaded bar with some drilled thick plate and a couple of 10mm washers & nuts)
Simple :)
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Thing is though - how much do you trust your local bike shop with your new frame after it's been through approximately £400 worth of resto work ? :-\ :shocked:
Think i'd be putting the bearing cups in myself maybe with the help of a mate if you need a spare set of hands in the process ;)
Here's how I do it..........
1. Use a dremmel to clean the insides of the bottom bracket hanger of any overspray.
2. Pop the bearing cups in a food baggy and sit them in the freezer for a couple of hours.
3. Grease the bottom bracket hanger & the cups.
4. Give them a gentle tap with a rubber or wooden mallet to start them off.
5. Press them in using a home made press ( short length of 10mm threaded bar with some drilled thick plate and a couple of 10mm washers & nuts)
Simple :)
Its not so much the money spent on the restoration of the f,f's and bars, though at close to £400 obviously it wouldbe an issue , its more the time and effort that has and will go into this...I've only ever built one other bike before this and that was pretty straight forward, this shouldn't really be any different....just a little more expensive!!!
Appreciate the offer of a hand when pressing the cups, but I'm down Pompey way dude...you up Manchester aint you???
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fingers crossed on the chroming fella,its a fookin lottery i tell thee.i cant wait to see this one finished,ive always :smitten: cw's in all shapes and forms
Mark when you say i"ve always :smitten: cw"s in all shapes and forms ? I do hope you mean the bike and not COCKS and WILLIES in all shapes and forms ;D
ps can"t wait to see the bike i am doing one the same colourway with the CHROME :coolsmiley:
Nice one WOODY
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:knuppel2: :-* :LolLolLolLol:
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well, no going back now :daumenhoch:
Bike is in with Custom Metal Polishers in Portsmouth for a mirror polish and chroming...back in 2 weeks :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :smitten:
Place actual premises is a bit of a shithole but had some lovely bits around i could see that i may have found a decent place to get work done.
Got some araya 7x rims being polished & chromed, along with a Tuf Neck Power Disc, Renthal Seat Post, and the Original CW rear pegs ::)
Thinking bout getting the suzue hubs done as well....thoughts?
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Bike in for mirror polish
Could you not just candy over the polished frame ? May not be quite as bling-a-ding-ding as the chrome underneath but surely better than silver powder underneath - especially if it's being professionally polished :-\
Just a thought :daumenhoch:
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Bike in for mirror polish
Could you not just candy over the polished frame ? May not be quite as bling-a-ding-ding as the chrome underneath but surely better than silver powder underneath - especially if it's being professionally polished :-\
Just a thought :daumenhoch:
If a job is worth doin, its worth doin right :daumenhoch:
Besides Boba, price was a little better than expected, all the work above for under £250 including the chroming ::) old school triple layer chroming aswell :daumenhoch:
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Fair enough mate - you are a man on a mission :LolLolLolLol:
But hats off to you for that - it will look fantastic :coolsmiley:
:daumenhoch:
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nice work jamroll - looking forward to seeing this almost as much as Ed's ;D
only joking mate it's gonna bling, put some pics up as soon as you have some news
cheers
griff
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v337/2elliot/dizzyq3.jpg)
Dizz :daumenhoch:
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Can't wait to see this done 8)
Fingers crossed the chromers do a good job for you ;)
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Spoke with the polishers yesterday, said that the forks and frame have come up a fookin treat but were have some issues with the bars gettin into the tight spots :-\
They are sending the Frame and Forks off tomorrow (Monday) to be chromed but are holding back the bars a day to do a little more work on them :smitten:
Mind this only come about after i pointed out that this little puppy could get them a load of work off you lot if it looks the bollox ;)
They're still tellin me should be all done and ready for collection Wednesday 8)
Pics up Wednesday Night then before being boxed and sent to Dan for the Candy Thursday.
Finished up gettin the rear pegs, rims (araya 7x), Pro Neck Stem and Renthal seat post Chromed as well....guess I may as well get the Hubs done also ;D
All In £200 :shocked:
Decals being done by Del at the moment :daumenhoch:
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Got to be honest....Ive been a little worried about the Custom Metal Polishers down in Pompey...were a little vague with figures for the work...One minute £250, Next Minute £200...Well I got a call today to say that all the bits will be ready for collection 2.00pm tomorrow :daumenhoch: Wot i wasn't bankin on was that I need £385 to get my bits back :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:. Fook me!!
Now i asked for a definate price and my reciept say price required on it....Where do i stand here???
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That is an ouch Al :-\
Doubt there's much you can do without a written quote with a cheaper price written on it mate :(
Have you seen the results ? Are you happy with the work ?
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Haven't seen the work, will do tomorrow when i collect. Had a chance toy get over the shock now and if they give me a breakdown of where the costs have gone I'll be a little more understanding.
Its just pissed me off a little that I've been chasing them for 2 weeks about getting the price cemented and they call me when all the work is done and its to late to do anything about it.
They've got me over a barrel really, I've spoken to them about it and there going to try to trim it a bit...I asked wot we could do for cash andwas told that was the cash price :shocked:
The guy has said that he's amazed by the work though ::)
If it looks as good as he says i'll be a bit happier, i just all the detail is still there (logos, serial number etc)
Bits i had done.
Frame, Forks and bars, - Polish & Chrome
Renthal Post - Polish & Chrome
Pro Neck Stem - Chrome
Tuff Neck Power Disc - Polish & Chrome
Pegs - Polish & Chrome
Araya 7x Rims - Polosh & Chrome
Actually, putting it all there I've had a shit load done...price doesn't looks so bad ???
I'll post Pics up tomorrow :coolsmiley: :daumenhoch:
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I'll post Pics up tomorrow :coolsmiley: :daumenhoch:
Look forward to that :coolsmiley:
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Got my bits back 2day...all the little bits are bang on, frame and forks are alright, the dull bits will cover with the candy. Bars may need a rethink.,was gonna leave chrome but not good enough. I'll put pics up when back from the pub!
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Got my bits back 2day...all the little bits are bang on, frame and forks are alright, the dull bits will cover with the candy. Bars may need a rethink.,was gonna leave chrome but not good enough. I'll put pics up when back from the pub!
Sound like you are pleased but not ecstatic Al :-\
Did you have a haggle with them on that high price then, with the work not being "perfect" ? ???
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Got my bits back 2day...all the little bits are bang on, frame and forks are alright, the dull bits will cover with the candy. Bars may need a rethink.,was gonna leave chrome but not good enough. I'll put pics up when back from the pub!
Sound like you are pleased but not ecstatic Al :-\
Did you have a haggle with them on that high price then, with the work not being "perfect" ? ???
Jon, managed to get a £35 off :shocked:, geezer was playing hard ball, packed up my bits and was heading back into his stockroom with them....had me over a barrel mate :'(
I'm happy but can't help thinking for the money i paid i could have got a better job else where :-\
Pics to follow shortly....give me 10 mins. :daumenhoch:
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fooker that is mucka when you would expect them all to be 100% spot on for the money.
like you say.what can you do when the bastards have got your bits.
bad trick to pull though not giving you a price for deffo and then hitting you hard once they got ya parts.
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OK,
So went and got my bits today...previous additions to this thread tell the story :-\
So I guess the pics of the good bits :daumenhoch:
Frame & Forks
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010517.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010530.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010532.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010520.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010524.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010522.jpg)
Pro Neck Stem
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010497.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010495.jpg)
Tuf Neck Power Disc
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010498.jpg)
Original CW Pegs
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010501.jpg)
Freestyler Bars
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010504.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010506.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010508.jpg)
Not So good Bits :-\
Below Gusset
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010526.jpg)
Near Rear Drop Outs
[(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010523.jpg)
Underside of Bars
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010509.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010514.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1010516.jpg)
Araya 7x Rims are still wrapped...I'll stick pics up of them tomorra
I guess I'll have to see wot SBD can do...wot are you thought on the bars though and overall work ?
Cheers
Al
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All in all stunning, mate. However I would think that the not so perfect spots on frame and bars stem from not so perfect handling by the chromers --- and for the money you payed, I thinl you can expect perfect treatment. So I'd take frame and bars back and ask them to redo them, as they are clearly not chromed perfectly. Say you only now realised how bad some spots really are.
Lets see what the other guys ssay .... :-\
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If you had just shown the first pics I'd have said it looks great but the second group of pics reveal a different story really :(
For the money you've paid Al, I would not be completely satisfied and would be going back.
Did you get a proper receipt mate ? ???
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You must be gutted about that. At that price, you should have had a better finish than that. :'( Did the chromers warn you that they would have problems in those tricky areas or did they say they everything would be fine?
It's always a gamble taking stuff to a chromer unless you know them or have had them recommended to you by someone in the know. That's the only reason I thought the silver base coat + candy powder was the way to go. I admire your dedication and I hope you get it sorted as the candy/chrome finish looked mint. 8)
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I would be taking them right back to see what they have to say about it. For the money you have paid it isn't good enough :10_2_12:
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Yeah got a hand written reciept, have spoken to them this morning, I basically told them that the finish just isn't up to standard for the show build finish I had requested initially, I don't think they were surprised to hear back from me to be honest, frame and bars going back to them on Wednesday next week :-\
I was hoping to have this thing built by then ...pain in the arse all this, cause I guess they could sit on this for weeks now :2gunsfiring_v1:
I'll keep you in the loop.
Oh yeah anyone got a spare wedge for a tuff neck stem as the fookers have lost mine :tickedoff:
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Oh yeah anyone got a spare wedge for a tuff neck stem as the fookers have lost mine :tickedoff:
Insult to Injury that :coolsmiley:
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Oh yeah anyone got a spare wedge for a tuff neck stem as the fookers have lost mine :tickedoff:
Insult to Injury that :coolsmiley:
>:( When i go down and see them next week, I'm gonna drop my trousers, bend over and get properly shafted
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Oh yeah anyone got a spare wedge for a tuff neck stem as the fookers have lost mine :tickedoff:
Insult to Injury that :coolsmiley:
>:( When i go down and see them next week, I'm gonna drop my trousers, bend over and get properly shafted
Again :LolLolLolLol:
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Oh yeah anyone got a spare wedge for a tuff neck stem as the fookers have lost mine :tickedoff:
Insult to Injury that :coolsmiley:
>:( When i go down and see them next week, I'm gonna drop my trousers, bend over and get properly shafted
Again :LolLolLolLol:
:buck2: :-[ :'(
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Oh yeah anyone got a spare wedge for a tuff neck stem as the fookers have lost mine :tickedoff:
I might have one, will have a look in my mysterious box of bits later :daumenhoch:
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Oh yeah anyone got a spare wedge for a tuff neck stem as the fookers have lost mine :tickedoff:
Insult to Injury that :coolsmiley:
>:( When i go down and see them next week, I'm gonna drop my trousers, bend over and get properly shafted
Again :LolLolLolLol:
try some of this - may help
(http://www.chemistonline.co.uk/img/shp/Durex-Play-Very-Cherry-Lube-Pump-50ml_S.jpg)
sorry to hear they didn't give you the finish you wanted mate, hopefully they'll come around when they know their work is being viewed on the internets
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i think overall thats a 'pretty par for the course finish' by the chromers.the tricky bits do look pants but then find a radster whos been 100% happy with any of the chroming theyve had done.the price does seem rather steep but if theyve had to do loads more polishing than normal then thats a reasonable price. unfortunately i think total perfection is something that seems impossible to acheive by any chromer,it stilll remains the holy grail of bmx restoration :'(
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unfortunately i think total perfection is something that seems impossible to acheive by any chromer,it stilll remains the holy grail of bmx restoration
This is what i don't understand though as i just don't remember a badly chromed frame back in the 80's. They did a great job then so why cant they do it now ????????
With an extra 25+ yrs of industry knowledge, i just can't fathom out why there are some real rough jobs around today. I'm not sayimg the frame above is rough by any amount of imagination, just obviously there are certainly parts that are up for discussion.
It just seems 25+ yrs on and we're taking backward steps rather than going forward.
Weird. :idiot2: :idiot2:
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All the tubes were polished and finished pre weld so the chrome was easier to polish post chroming. So once there welded and stripped the tubes ain't as detailed, so the polishing ain't as good :-\
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unfortunately i think total perfection is something that seems impossible to acheive by any chromer,it stilll remains the holy grail of bmx restoration
This is what i don't understand though as i just don't remember a badly chromed frame back in the 80's. They did a great job then so why cant they do it now ????????
With an extra 25+ yrs of industry knowledge, i just can't fathom out why there are seem real rough jobs around today. I'm not sayimg the frame above is rough by any amount of imagination, just obviously there are certainly parts that are up for discussion.
It just seems 25+ yrs on and we're taking backward steps rather than going forward.
Weird. :idiot2: :idiot2:
my honest opinion, it's all about how much heart you put into the job, the love of
restoring and seeing some frame thats 20-30 years old brought back to life and some
times looking better than it did when new gives me the biggest buzz time and time
again, it's all about finding that one plater who loves what you do, understands what
your after and knows himself what he should achieve, every frame i paint gets the best
i can do whether it's worth £100 or £1000, it makes no differance, i bet if the chrome
plater loved custom cars and was into them than your car parts would look the b0llox,
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So, the frame and bars are back in with the chromers....maybe i went in the conversation today a bit like a bull in a china shop but to be fair I'm pretty fooked off with all this now :-\ On closer inspection in daylight I found a couple of area's on the down dube with no chrome on at all, and on the inside of the gusset i took a knife and was removing a shit load of polishing clay after the chroming had apparently been attempted there.
After a full on row with the geezer I've managed to talk him into having another go at the them....i dont know how good they'll be but i said I'll keep on coming back until there right. Or give me my money back and I'll take to a chromers who can do the job :2gunsfiring_v1:
Was going to leave the bars chrome...may have to consider options if i cant get them bang on...Was considering powdering black :-\
Thoughts please chaps
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like dan says.
some of the old school chrome plating firms would never let stuff back out like that.
had a bit of pride in what they did.
now days its just about the speed and the cash.
see if there any better this time round.
just hope he dont come the pratt and make em even worse.
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I think the bottom line is if the come back right next time the chromer gets a plug for good work and they get more chroming jobs from the forum.
But if they dont then come back good then they get the bad press on the forum and don get any repeat work. either way they know how dissapointed you are and rightly so and they are trying to sort it out :daumenhoch:
Hopefully you will have a real beauty in a few weeks :4_17_5:
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I think the bottom line is if the come back right next time the chromer gets a plug for good work and they get more chroming jobs from the forum.
But if they dont then come back good then they get the bad press on the forum and don get any repeat work. either way they know how dissapointed you are and rightly so and they are trying to sort it out :daumenhoch:
Hopefully you will have a real beauty in a few weeks :4_17_5:
Really appreciate what your saying they brett, but I no longer have you confidence mate...
All this shit has left a really bitter taste now mate...and at the moment i cant be fookin arsed :-[
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Was going to leave the bars chrome...may have to consider options if i cant get them bang on...Was considering powdering black :-\
Thoughts please chaps
If they screw up again and you manage to get some money back, why not give the f+f and bars to Dan so he can hit them with the silver base/candy red. That option seemed like a no-brainer to me and would have been much better for your blood pressure/wallet. The silver base/candy finish was really nice - obviously the candy/chrome looked better but you need flawless chrome for best results and it doesn't look like those chromers can give you that.
You might be able to find a nice set of NOS or survivor chrome CW freestyle bars on US eBay but you'd have to be patient.
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Was going to leave the bars chrome...may have to consider options if i cant get them bang on...Was considering powdering black :-\
Thoughts please chaps
If they screw up again and you manage to get some money back, why not give the f+f and bars to Dan so he can hit them with the silver base/candy red. That option seemed like a no-brainer to me and would have been much better for your blood pressure/wallet. The silver base/candy finish was really nice - obviously the candy/chrome looked better but you need flawless chrome for best results and it doesn't look like those chromers can give you that.
You might be able to find a nice set of NOS or survivor chrome CW freestyle bars on US eBay but you'd have to be patient.
I cant waste £400 and then payout again for dan...I'll get finished see wot it looks like and then make a decision!
Been looking for Chrome bars now for 6 months...no many about !! :-\
IT WILL COME GOOD IN THE END :D
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Hang in there, I'm sure it will be worth it. :daumenhoch:
There was a set of chrome CW freestyle bars on eBay.UK not long ago. Not perfect but would have been easier to rechrome than your raw set. Ended now so a moot point anyway. :D
http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-School-Vintage-80s-BMX-CW-Chrome-Freestyle-Bars-/200535460794?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2eb0d84bba
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Oh yeah anyone got a spare wedge for a tuff neck stem as the fookers have lost mine :tickedoff:
I might have one, will have a look in my mysterious box of bits later :daumenhoch:
If the phantom photon can't sort you out PM Rooski as he makes these.
BTW the pro neck and tuf neck wedges are different.
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Oh yeah anyone got a spare wedge for a tuff neck stem as the fookers have lost mine :tickedoff:
I might have one, will have a look in my mysterious box of bits later :daumenhoch:
If the phantom photon can't sort you out PM Rooski as he makes these.
BTW the pro neck and tuf neck wedges are different.
How much different mate ???
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the bolts have different threads, the wedge is pretty similar
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the bolts have different threads, the wedge is pretty similar
:daumenhoch:
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A few good points have been made here.
Like Dan said, any good finish starts with the prep, whether it be paint, powder, nickel, chrome etc.
Like has also been said, it's easier to prep a frame for chrome before it's welded together.
Don't assume that all chrome plated frames BITD were perfect.The more philosophical may think, like most things we remember from the 80's, they probably seem better now than they probably were :LolLolLolLol:
Generally, there are 2 types of chrome plating
1) hard chrome, which is more used for its hardness, wear resistance etc. This process gives a much thicker depth of plate, but it gives an ugly, uneven finish, which needs to be re-machined after plating.
2) bright chrome/show chrome, which is generally used for decorative purposes. This process gives the bright, blueish, shiny finish we all know and love. The downside is that this plating is only microns (millionths of a metre) deep.
Usually about 10-20 microns. A human hair is on average 100 microns :shocked:
Be cautious of the promise of 'triple chrome'. The bright chrome process is usually a three stage process, after the pre-plating (de-grease, alkaline clean, acid etch)
The three stages are usually a copper strike, used to give better conductivity to the part, then a nickel stike, to give the silver colour, and then the final chrome dip.
So, don't think you are always getting three layers of chrome, I doubt if that ever really happens, let alone if it's even possible.
Bottom line, have a look at the item before it goes for final plating, 'cos what you have then, is generally what you will end up with after plating.
Shaun
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mate you must be fumming you should have took your time and polished it up yourself, make sure you take that tuff neck disc back cos those deep scracthes will show throuhg the chrome :daumenhoch:
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BTW the pro neck and tuf neck wedges are different.
How much different mate ???
I might have been wrong in that the early pro neck and tuf neck may have been the same but on later models they are definitely different which you can see in the pic below.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd35/electro808/DSCF0371.jpg (http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd35/electro808/DSCF0371.jpg)
Two pots mod stems with different wedges, the way the shaft is cut seems to dictate the wedge you need.
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj79/bmx_brigade_86/Tuf_00.jpg (http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj79/bmx_brigade_86/Tuf_00.jpg)[/quote]
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I know exactly how you feel mate. I had a very similar story to yours happen to me with a firebird a few year ago. I lost all love for the build and was totally dissilusioned by the whole thing and never finished it. I hope it all comes good for you in the end fingers crossed.
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BTW the pro neck and tuf neck wedges are different.
How much different mate ???
I might have been wrong in that the early pro neck and tuf neck may have been the same but on later models they are definitely different which you can see in the pic below.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd35/electro808/DSCF0371.jpg (http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd35/electro808/DSCF0371.jpg)
Two pots mod stems with different wedges, the way the shaft is cut seems to dictate the wedge you need.
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj79/bmx_brigade_86/Tuf_00.jpg (http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj79/bmx_brigade_86/Tuf_00.jpg)
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I don't think your wrong mate. As kuwahero said they look the same but on some the threads are slightly different. Some of the early tuf necks are different thread sizes to some of the later too but you can't see it by just looking at them. The threads are slightly thicker so one bolt won't fit through the other and the one that will rattles about like hell because the shaft is too wide for the bolt. The wedges look the same though. Andy Rooski on here has encountered all the in's and out's on these and really knows what he's doing.
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Soooo.
Frame origianaly got "turned around in two weeks".
Frame and Bars went back in on the 4th November....still haven't got my bits back :(
I call and keep getting fobbed off, I think its got to the point of a revisit. fooking Custom Metal Polishers customer service is shite, workmanship is shite....stay well the fook clear :2gunsfiring_v1:
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so sorry to hear all about this mate - when i dropped of the cranks in the summer we talk about colours and the build
I think that you need to turn up with a couple of huge mates - the kind that look like they would tear a new r-sole for fun
the chromers don't seem to take you seriously and need a bit of reminding that things can change - just let them see it your way
I really hope you get it right or some money back
:knuppel2:
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After much calling Custom Metal Polishers, trying to stay calm I lost it today and went down and had it out with them :2gunsfiring_v1: Frame and Bars were not there cause apparently they "sub contract" the chroming !!! :wtf:
Anyway I've got a date i can collect next Wednesday 19th January, only taken gettin on for 4 months to get this sorted out...still no guarentee on the quality of the work but I'll have everything crossed, If its still shite I'll take somewhere else. I just want my bits back now and get the Candy done by Dan :smitten:
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Good luck :(
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good luck for next wednesday,its a fookin mare this chroming lark and then the whole timescale thing,lets hope its all worth it,cant wait to see it :smitten:
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Thanks Lads, I'm trying to be a little more positive about the build again.....trying to stay optamistic ;D
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ive got a cw zx at hockley chromers at the mo so im waiting in anticipation too,if they do half as good a job on that as they did on my flights i will be over the moon,its just the waiting and not knowing game which takes the fun out of it all :'(
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ive got a cw zx at hockley chromers at the mo so im waiting in anticipation too,if they do half as good a job on that as they did on my flights i will be over the moon,its just the waiting and not knowing game which takes the fun out of it all :'(
Post some pics of the the chrome up after matky would you...may have to send mine there to get redone ;D
I think the frame will be fine...I'm anxious bout the freestyle bars and gettin inbetween to twin tubes :-\
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ive got a cw zx at hockley chromers at the mo so im waiting in anticipation too,if they do half as good a job on that as they did on my flights i will be over the moon,its just the waiting and not knowing game which takes the fun out of it all :'(
Post some pics of the the chrome up after matky would you...may have to send mine there to get redone ;D
I think the frame will be fine...I'm anxious bout the freestyle bars and gettin inbetween to twin tubes :-\
yeah will do although i dont know how long its gonna be before i see it again :-[
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ive got a cw zx at hockley chromers at the mo so im waiting in anticipation too,if they do half as good a job on that as they did on my flights i will be over the moon,its just the waiting and not knowing game which takes the fun out of it all :'(
Post some pics of the the chrome up after matky would you...may have to send mine there to get redone ;D
I think the frame will be fine...I'm anxious bout the freestyle bars and gettin inbetween to twin tubes :-\
yeah will do although i dont know how long its gonna be before i see it again :-[
How long has it been in for???
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almost two months but you have to take crimbo into consideration,im going to start chasing them towards the end of next week ,i dont mind the wait as long as its worth it ???
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sorry to hear about your fook up dude
but it seems to be the same old story with chromers who have no idea how much these bikes mean to us
like dan said if the chromers into old school bmx ,then the job would be spot on
i had the same thing once ,and i had to wait six months :crazy2:
and i knew a polisher who in the 80's just polished lengths of 531 tubing before it went back to be made into frames ,
i'v used butts of burnerworld for small parts and they are spot on ,he has some frames on his thread at the moment ,and they look nice :daumenhoch:
check out the heavy copper plating on pitted parts :coolsmiley:
http://www.burnerworldforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php't=16179&start=0
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sorry to hear about your fook up dude
but it seems to be the same old story with chromers who have no idea how much these bikes mean to us
like dan said if the chromers into old school bmx ,then the job would be spot on
i had the same thing once ,and i had to wait six months :crazy2:
and i knew a polisher who in the 80's just polished lengths of 531 tubing before it went back to be made into frames ,
i'v used butts of burnerworld for small parts and they are spot on ,he has some frames on his thread at the moment ,and they look nice :daumenhoch:
check out the heavy copper plating on pitted parts :coolsmiley:
http://www.burnerworldforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php't=16179&start=0
Fingers crossed all will be ok, checked outthe link you left for me, very very nice but no images of Freestyle Bars on there so i dont know if again he could get between the twin top tunes...I guess i'll find out soon enough ::)
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So guess wot...I called them up today to make sure all is well and to save me a 60mile round trip if it wasn't...yup not ready :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Lady said the Chromers were altering the "chrome solution" to get a better finish on my frame and bars... ??? sounds like bollox to me...something bout Titanium ;D
I've sitting here smiling to myself at the moment as this has gone on so fooking long now. Apparently next Wednesday now :buck2:
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So guess wot...I called them up today to make sure all is well and to save me a 60mile round trip if it wasn't...yup not ready :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Lady said the Chromers were altering the "chrome solution" to get a better finish on my frame and bars... ??? sounds like bollox to me...something bout Titanium ;D
I've sitting here smiling to myself at the moment as this has gone on so fooking long now. Apparently next Wednesday now :buck2:
dont want to pi$$ on your peanuts but after next wednesday i'm having to
work on a min two month turnaround >:D
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So guess wot...I called them up today to make sure all is well and to save me a 60mile round trip if it wasn't...yup not ready :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Lady said the Chromers were altering the "chrome solution" to get a better finish on my frame and bars... ??? sounds like bollox to me...something bout Titanium ;D
I've sitting here smiling to myself at the moment as this has gone on so fooking long now. Apparently next Wednesday now :buck2:
dont want to pi$$ on your peanuts but after next wednesday i'm having to
work on a min two month turnaround >:D
be quicker to send it to chip for a proper job >:D :2funny:
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So guess wot...I called them up today to make sure all is well and to save me a 60mile round trip if it wasn't...yup not ready :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Lady said the Chromers were altering the "chrome solution" to get a better finish on my frame and bars... ??? sounds like bollox to me...something bout Titanium ;D
I've sitting here smiling to myself at the moment as this has gone on so fooking long now. Apparently next Wednesday now :buck2:
dont want to pi$$ on your peanuts but after next wednesday i'm having to
work on a min two month turnaround >:D
be quicker to send it to chip for a proper job >:D :2funny:
;D
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So guess wot...I called them up today to make sure all is well and to save me a 60mile round trip if it wasn't...yup not ready :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Lady said the Chromers were altering the "chrome solution" to get a better finish on my frame and bars... ??? sounds like bollox to me...something bout Titanium ;D
I've sitting here smiling to myself at the moment as this has gone on so fooking long now. Apparently next Wednesday now :buck2:
dont want to pi$$ on your peanuts but after next wednesday i'm having to
work on a min two month turnaround >:D
i better get the ghp off to you sooner rather than later
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So guess wot...I called them up today to make sure all is well and to save me a 60mile round trip if it wasn't...yup not ready :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Lady said the Chromers were altering the "chrome solution" to get a better finish on my frame and bars... ??? sounds like bollox to me...something bout Titanium ;D
I've sitting here smiling to myself at the moment as this has gone on so fooking long now. Apparently next Wednesday now :buck2:
dont want to pi$$ on your peanuts but after next wednesday i'm having to
work on a min two month turnaround >:D
i better get the ghp off to you sooner rather than later
haha only teasing, i honestly can't believe how long this frame has took ???
stunned at the service and bullshite thats gone with it >:(
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So guess wot...I called them up today to make sure all is well and to save me a 60mile round trip if it wasn't...yup not ready :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Lady said the Chromers were altering the "chrome solution" to get a better finish on my frame and bars... ??? sounds like bollox to me...something bout Titanium ;D
I've sitting here smiling to myself at the moment as this has gone on so fooking long now. Apparently next Wednesday now :buck2:
dont want to pi$$ on your peanuts but after next wednesday i'm having to
work on a min two month turnaround >:D
i better get the ghp off to you sooner rather than later
haha only teasing, i honestly can't believe how long this frame has took ???
stunned at the service and bullshite thats gone with it >:(
I know Dan, it's taking the pi$$ something silly but I'm just having to chuckle bout it now.
Hope to see you in a couple of weeks :LolLolLolLol:
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This debacle is pretty shocking but sadly too common :knuppel2: .
I think one of the key points here is that the company you went to have sub contracted the chrome work to someone else , I always speak to or see face to face the people that are doing the work for me ( if one company was doing prep then I'll collect when done and take to chromer myself ) . All too often communication which starts positive & well meaning is'nt passed down the line .
I had some shockers a couple of years ago using a third party ..... a pretty hard to find Redline fluted post came back with new chrome but smooth with no fluting left ! , hard to find Redline Proline V bars with no stamp left & smooth welds ........
We live & learn but sadly at our own expense more often than not , I hope it all works out for you ;) .
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OK, So got me bits back yesterday. :-[
I've waited 3 months for another shocking job :2gunsfiring_v1:
Anyone know of a 1st class chromers who can give me a quick turnaround ???
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Speak to Carl "In2bmx" he's been getting some nice work done lately by his new chromer :coolsmiley:
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Al i've pm'd you, call me mate :daumenhoch:
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Speak to Carl "In2bmx" he's been getting some nice work done lately by his new chromer :coolsmiley:
Thanks mate, I'll drop him a PM :daumenhoch:
Matt, I'll give you a buzz in a bit :daumenhoch:
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blimey Al,what a nitemare!!i find the most frustrating thing about chromers is the turn around time,but to then get another lash up just about takes the biscuit.hockley have done my cw,im just waiting for them to post it back :-\
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blimey Al,what a nitemare!!i find the most frustrating thing about chromers is the turn around time,but to then get another lash up just about takes the biscuit.hockley have done my cw,im just waiting for them to post it back :-\
Yep been a nitemare mark, £380 flushed down the shitter, now I'm having to put my hand in my pocket again to get the job done again and still there ain't any guarentees :-\ . The pisser is I'd set the money aside I'm spending again for a nice set of 401's.
Bike is going off to Allen Chroming up in Pocklington tomorrow :daumenhoch:
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jesus,what a fookin mare mate,i know how you feel after my t.a debacle,i wanted to cry!!i just hope my cw is ok,hockley said they were happy how it went so lets hope so,although they did say there was a tiny bit of pitting where the frame meets by the seat tube which i guess is understandable.instead of waiting in happy anticipation of its return i feel like im waiting for a headache to arrive,all to familar with chromers, although the flights they did for me were awesome so fingers crossed.im done with chromers after this one,well frames and forks that is as ive got two sets of star bars to be done soon then that is defo it,it will be powder coated bikes only!!!
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jesus,what a fookin mare mate,i know how you feel after my t.a debacle,i wanted to cry!!i just hope my cw is ok,hockley said they were happy how it went so lets hope so,although they did say there was a tiny bit of pitting where the frame meets by the seat tube which i guess is understandable.instead of waiting in happy anticipation of its return i feel like im waiting for a headache to arrive,all to familar with chromers, although the flights they did for me were awesome so fingers crossed.im done with chromers after this one,well frames and forks that is as ive got two sets of star bars to be done soon then that is defo it,it will be powder coated bikes only!!!
Yeah I know that feeling mate all to well :-\
I still cant get my head around the fact that after all this chroming is sorted it going off to Dans to be powdered :idiot2:
Hope the CW turns out well fella, i look forward to c'ing the pics :daumenhoch:
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jesus,what a fookin mare mate,i know how you feel after my t.a debacle,i wanted to cry!!i just hope my cw is ok,hockley said they were happy how it went so lets hope so,although they did say there was a tiny bit of pitting where the frame meets by the seat tube which i guess is understandable.instead of waiting in happy anticipation of its return i feel like im waiting for a headache to arrive,all to familar with chromers, although the flights they did for me were awesome so fingers crossed.im done with chromers after this one,well frames and forks that is as ive got two sets of star bars to be done soon then that is defo it,it will be powder coated bikes only!!!
Yeah I know that feeling mate all to well :-\
I still cant get my head around the fact that after all this chroming is sorted it going off to Dans to be powdered :idiot2:
Hope the CW turns out well fella, i look forward to c'ing the pics :daumenhoch:
we shall see,there will be tears one way or the other,lets hope tears of joy :crazy2:
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Just read this from start to finish, truly shocking service :shocked:....sorry to hear of all your troubles :(
Did the chromer not offer you a full refund???
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Shocking really, as said above, wasn't a refund offered? Hope it all turns out okay though :daumenhoch:
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Just read this from start to finish, truly shocking service :shocked:....sorry to hear of all your troubles :(
Did the chromer not offer you a full refund???
No refund :2gunsfiring_v1: Its taken getin on for 3 months to get to this stage, I was lucky to get my bits back at all.
Off to another chromer now to spend another £200 on chrome. :uglystupid2:
When is a good time to cut my losses :-\ I must be fookin bonkers
Just heard Markyp's CW has just come back from the Chomers and had a similar experience :(
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No refund
fooking pirates :knuppel2:
may the fleas of a thousand camels infest their armpits.....
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No refund
may the fleas of a thousand camels infest their armpits.....
;D :daumenhoch:
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jamroll.
Did you have to leave the chromer a deposit?
If not.....let me know and I will send him a total worthless wreck of a frame and fork set to be chromed...........and then I will do a Lord Lucan on him :daumenhoch:
Ya mess with 1 RAD member....you mess with em all >:D
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jamroll.
Did you have to leave the chromer a deposit?
If not.....let me know and I will send him a total worthless wreck of a frame and fork set to be chromed...........and then I will do a Lord Lucan on him :daumenhoch:
Ya mess with 1 RAD member....you mess with em all >:D
you need to send one to about 90% of chromers :'(
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jamroll.
Did you have to leave the chromer a deposit?
If not.....let me know and I will send him a total worthless wreck of a frame and fork set to be chromed...........and then I will do a Lord Lucan on him :daumenhoch:
Ya mess with 1 RAD member....you mess with em all >:D
you need to send one to about 90% of chromers :'(
whats up with your one mark?
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jamroll.
Did you have to leave the chromer a deposit?
If not.....let me know and I will send him a total worthless wreck of a frame and fork set to be chromed...........and then I will do a Lord Lucan on him :daumenhoch:
Ya mess with 1 RAD member....you mess with em all >:D
No deposit required my friend :daumenhoch:
Custom Metal Polishers - 023 9269 9441
a load if phantom bookings maybe???
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you need to send one to about 90% of chromers :'(
whats up with your one mark?
Dan, from wot i can gather Marks frame went in with some lush original chrome albeit a little dull and come out with New Nice Shiney Chrome but pitted to fook :-\ :knuppel2:
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you need to send one to about 90% of chromers :'(
whats up with your one mark?
Dan, from wot i can gather Marks frame went in with some lush original chrome albeit a little dull and come out with New Nice Shiney Chrome but pitted to fook :-\ :knuppel2:
Glue thrown at it then rolled in sand before chroming apparently. :'( :'(
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Just heard Markyp's CW has just come back from the Chomers and had a similar experience :(
Doesnt surprise me, Hockley Chrome are fooking useless. :2gunsfiring_v1:
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Just heard Markyp's CW has just come back from the Chomers and had a similar experience :(
Doesnt surprise me, Hockley Chrome are fooking useless. :2gunsfiring_v1:
yup,feel really let down,they did an awesome job on my flights then lash up my frameset.talking to superbikedan about it he thinks that it was left in the gunk tank to long and the stripper pitted the metal,its the only explanation as to why a mint frameset with no rust turns out so bad. :-[
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Just heard Markyp's CW has just come back from the Chomers and had a similar experience :(
Doesnt surprise me, Hockley Chrome are fooking useless. :2gunsfiring_v1:
yup,feel really let down,they did an awesome job on my flights then lash up my frameset.talking to superbikedan about it he thinks that it was left in the gunk tank to long and the stripper pitted the metal,its the only explanation as to why a mint frameset with no rust turns out so bad. :-[
Gutted for you mate, I think the Hockley thread should be removed from the Tech section. Have stupidly used them twice and therework is sub standard and they dont meet there deadlines when it comes to doing the work. :angrysoapbox:
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Just heard Markyp's CW has just come back from the Chomers and had a similar experience :(
Doesnt surprise me, Hockley Chrome are fooking useless. :2gunsfiring_v1:
yup,feel really let down,they did an awesome job on my flights then lash up my frameset.talking to superbikedan about it he thinks that it was left in the gunk tank to long and the stripper pitted the metal,its the only explanation as to why a mint frameset with no rust turns out so bad. :-[
Gutted for you mate, I think the Hockley thread should be removed from the Tech section. Have stupidly used them twice and therework is sub standard and they dont meet there deadlines when it comes to doing the work. :angrysoapbox:
the thing that annoys me the most is that in their thread they say 'we give it a CONSIDERABLE polish'.thats the one thing that annoys everybody the most about chromers,the lack of polishing but hockley say they give it the full works,could have fooled me,looks like no polishing at all was done to my cw :'(
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And I bet they had it longer than originally quoted?
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And I bet they had it longer than originally quoted?
no to be fair they said 2-3 months and they were bang on ,about 10 weeks,id rather it taken 10 months tho and turned out decent :-\
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My new chromers have just stripped my frame and have informed me thatin there Word "No Fookin Way" my frame even saw a polisher before it was chromed. Just really pisses me off that I've been taken for a complete mug.
Mark & I have been fooked in the arse :crazy2: and there is nowt we can do about it :-X
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Sorry to hear the horror stories :knuppel2: I had my Curtis Frame, Forks and Bars done at Hockleys and was impressed with the finish, although it was my first restore and the frame was in a bad and way I may be looking at in in rose tinted glasses :laugh:, anyhow my brother-in-law was over at the weekend and works at a foundry in the Midlands making lots of exotic things out of metal, I showed him my recent restored kids bike, told him all about the work that went into it and basically he was not that impressed with the finish, he's gonna put me in touch with who they use as he says they are the best in the business !!!!! and when he spoke to them they have done BMX re-chrome's. I will get the details of him and let you know. :daumenhoch:
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Sorry to hear the horror stories :knuppel2: I had my Curtis Frame, Forks and Bars done at Hockleys and was impressed with the finish, although it was my first restore and the frame was in a bad and way I may be looking at in in rose tinted glasses :laugh:, anyhow my brother-in-law was over at the weekend and works at a foundry in the Midlands making lots of exotic things out of metal, I showed him my recent restored kids bike, told him all about the work that went into it and basically he was not that impressed with the finish, he's gonna put me in touch with who they use as he says they are the best in the business !!!!! and when he spoke to them they have done BMX re-chrome's. I will get the details of him and let you know. :daumenhoch:
nice one,we need a 100% confirmed pukka chromer on here.someone could do very nicely off of rad
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Mark that sucks :knuppel2: My chromer is Brilliant 2 b honest never had a problem with their chroming . But they did break my heart tho when then basterdised my MRD Pro :rant: :wtf: got compensation in the end tho ;) other people have used them and had problems :shocked: So I won't b recommending them even if I have sent loads of people there that have been very happy .
Compensation Chroming Pics The show chrome on this stuff is the Dogs Bollox 8)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/q103/animalmrd/IMG_2199.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/q103/animalmrd/IMG_2201.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/q103/animalmrd/IMG_2202.jpg)
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thats exactly how you expect it to turn out steve,looks the nuts,why cant they all get it like that :2gunsfiring_v1:
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Because in my mind u need 2 take it 2 the right people who care. ::) Then I always go in and talk 2 the right bloke who will listen 2 what u want ;) The top honcho at my chromers is a Tit 2 b honest I always bypass the Cnut. :LolLolLolLol: then most times I ask if i can talk 2 the polisher so can point out things like not trashing weld areas etc ::) When i had some rims polished a while back I explained 2 him not 2 polish the sharp edges away and he did a superb job.
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You still using ACF Howells Steve? They been pretty good with my stuff but did have to compensate me for a redline chainring they ruined :-\ got a load more stuff to do now
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Yes mate still using Howells in Walsall buddy . Got some more bars 2 get done some time soon ::) may be a F&F if I get my finger out :LolLolLolLol: restoring a pair of star Bars 4 Markyp at the moment and 2 say they r tricky is an understatement :shocked: i got them 2 chrome the JMC Shadow that the gay pensioner has now and they did a shit hot job of that , even chromed the clamp bolt ;)
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Why does it do that if I put the gay pensioner in ???? :LolLolLolLol:
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Was going to get another frame done but going to go with powder now ... but i got a big pile of cranks, bars, posts, pedals, rims etc to be done... used them loads and they only fooked one small thing up so it aint been bad ... :daumenhoch:
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Why does it do that if I put the gay pensioner in ???? :LolLolLolLol:
Apparently it's Glen's alter ego ;)
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OK,
So Frame Forks & Bars arrived with Dan safely and have been given the SBD treatment. Finish as always is just :smitten:
Drive arm side of the frame look the absolute bollocks , and I'm well fookin chuffed with the colour :daumenhoch:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1020583.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1020587.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ww308/jamroll/CW%20Cali%20Boulevard/P1020589.jpg)
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Now I've been chattin to Dan about this on and off for the last couple of days as the Non Drive Arm Side unfortunatley didn't come out as well, we dont know if the frame got damaged in transit form the chromers to Dan or wot has happened but the rear triange, Foot Plate and from the BB to the gusset is peppered with wot look like rub marks / scratches under the Candy :'(
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The Forks are stunning and the bars are remainin chrome but the frame is Boxed up ready to go back to Dan tomorrow to be stripped back to chrome so we can take a look at wot the Marks are, I'm kinda hgoping they are just a little bit of tape residue or some scratches that will polish, who knows. Appreciate Dan doing this for me as he has said once the frame is sorted he'll do again FOC. :4_17_5: Top Bloke is Dan, Thanks again Fella.
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total sickener Al,especially after all the trouble youve had.having said that it looks the nuts.that candy over chrome must be awesome in the flesh especially if my ghp which is candy over silver looks amazing,bet it rocks :smitten:
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Looking good so far Alec, hope it comes out ok when finished. :daumenhoch:
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total sickener Al,especially after all the trouble youve had.having said that it looks the nuts.that candy over chrome must be awesome in the flesh especially if my ghp which is candy over silver looks amazing,bet it rocks :smitten:
Looks like Liquid Mark, Really need some good outside shots to do the colour justice bud...when it comes back ::) ::) ::)
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That finish is so Sexy 8)
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Absolutely stunning. Shame about the non-driveside, you've certainly been through the mill with this frame. Hang in there.
Cant wait to see this finished.
:4_17_5:
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I'm glad to see a roll of tissue next to the frame - i just hope it is super absorbent ;D
gonna look a stunner mate :daumenhoch:
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That's gonna look pretty mad once sorted & SBD is da man :daumenhoch:
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Al looks good mate, bloody shame about the non-drive side :'( hopefully once built it'll be fine, is this for rider or show? :daumenhoch:
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Thanks for all then nice comments guys, have got a little disheartned with the build but your comments will certainley push me to get this finished :daumenhoch:
Al looks good mate, bloody shame about the non-drive side :'( hopefully once built it'll be fine, is this for rider or show? :daumenhoch:
Matt, was going to be a show build, problem is I've spent so much on a paint job,haven't really got the money for some parts i wanted to put on it :-\, so will probably use it for the summer if i have it finished in time ;D Even if i ride it though i want to get it as close to perfect as i can ;)
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Looks great and Dan is a top bloke for the offer; I have found he that he is partial to a few cold tins :daumenhoch:
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I have found he that he is partial to a few cold tins :daumenhoch:
Marty, thats a given Bud 8)
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WOW!!
That finish is awesome, god that's going to look something extra special when done.
Shame about the set back, but that's all it is at the end of the day, she'll be worth it in the end . A moment of someone else's carelessness is all it takes to damage all the hard work and effort but, at least it can be srted. I dare say Dan weren't too happy either. :daumenhoch: 8)
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looks absolutely stunning :coolsmiley:
total shame about the damage :(
are you going to get it chromed again :-\
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WOW!!
That finish is awesome, god that's going to look something extra special when done.
Shame about the set back, but that's all it is at the end of the day, she'll be worth it in the end . A moment of someone else's carelessness is all it takes to damage all the hard work and effort but, at least it can be srted. I dare say Dan weren't too happy either. :daumenhoch: 8)
Can I just make this perfectly clear....the damage on the frame was there PRIOR to it arriving with Dan, Dan didn't realise the frame had come directly from the chromers up in york and not via me, and thought i was ok with the marks on it.
Thanks :daumenhoch:
looks absolutely stunning :coolsmiley:
total shame about the damage :(
are you going to get it chromed again :-\
Rodgy, Am i fook I haven't got the funds to get chromed again for the 3rd time :uglystupid2:
Dans gonna send the frame back to me without the colour on it and I'll see if it will polish up :-\ :daumenhoch:
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WOW!!
That finish is awesome, god that's going to look something extra special when done.
Shame about the set back, but that's all it is at the end of the day, she'll be worth it in the end . A moment of someone else's carelessness is all it takes to damage all the hard work and effort but, at least it can be srted. I dare say Dan weren't too happy either. :daumenhoch: 8)
Can I just make this perfectly clear....the damage on the frame was there PRIOR to it arriving with Dan, Dan didn't realise the frame had come directly from the chromers up in york and not via me, and thought i was ok with the marks on it.
Thanks :daumenhoch:
Mate, I was referring to the damage at the chromers or when it was in transit. If the scratches can't be felt on your fingertips and is on the chrome layer itself it should polish out nicely. Bit of a PITA but not impossible. Fingers crossed it is and it's easily rectified. ;)
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Your patience astonishes me. I would have lost the plot ages ago and set about the thing with a Stihl saw. :(
Hope you can polish out the imperfections. (were they caused by the courier on the journey from the chromers to SBD's?)
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Your patience astonishes me. I would have lost the plot ages ago and set about the thing with a Stihl saw. :(
Hope you can polish out the imperfections. (were they caused by the courier on the journey from the chromers to SBD's?)
who knows it hard to tell, one thing i do regret is not calling Al on the day before i painted it, it just didnt seem
the quality show piece i was expecting and after reading all that Al has been through i really thought that he'd seen
it and was ok with the final chrome finish, we live and learn and i'm sure it will all be polished out, repainted and
Al gets his show piece :daumenhoch:
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Got a question for you lot.
who knows of a good chromer ??? :D :2funny:
Need to get chromed again, Dave Allen Chrome have got a 16 week turnaround...too long.
Matt (Swivel) you know someone you trust dont ya mate, Sam (meticulous) Has Paul sent his frame to you??? Could i maybe do the same.
Cheers :daumenhoch:
Al
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Sawzall and i just had a load of stuff done at Hampshire Electro platers in Southampton. It took 5 weeks and to say we're both happy is an understatement. :4_17_5: :4_17_5:
http://www.cylex-uk.co.uk/company/hampshire-electroplating-14104670.html
We had our stuff back in 5 weeks aswell, just like they said.
Pictures to come in 5 mins.
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Sawzall and i just had a load of stuff done at Hampshire Electro platers in Southampton. It took 5 weeks and to say we're both happy is an understatement. :4_17_5: :4_17_5:
http://www.cylex-uk.co.uk/company/hampshire-electroplating-14104670.html
We had our stuff back in 5 weeks.
Pictures to come in 5 mins.
Wot did they do for you bud???
I think i've got one more roll of the dice with this one...I need it as close to purfect as i can...
Southampton would be coold as I can drop that of myself...I'm only over in Petersfield.
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Uploading pictures now for you.
They did about 3 or 4 sets of bars, a few sets of cranks and a seat clamp i think, they also stripped a couple of frames aswell.
Sawzall has used them a few times.
They rechromed his Hurricane BMX last year. Check out his me and my bikes.
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Rickman Pro bars, MRD Expert bars and Terry cable cranks. :4_17_5: :4_17_5:
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Lush :smitten: :daumenhoch:
Are they expensive?
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I was expecting a massive bill just because of the amount we put in, obviously it wasn't all being chromed but i was well shocked with the overall bill. They were very very reasonable. :4_17_5:
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A phone call may have to be put there way ::)
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fooking lush mate the finish on it is like glass!!!! Any update pics?
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Looking lush :smitten: :smitten:
It is shame about the chafing on the non drive side. Will it polish out?
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Been to see the frame today ??? and to say that i feel for Al is a understatement :'(
The whole thing will not polish out now :-[ i can say that for sure - it's more on there now so it's going to need a re-chrome for sure - i would say that he gets it done and carry's it on forward - as if it just gets a powder, it will be the "what would it of been like" frame
it's such a shame the money that was spent and lost, to having the wrong people touch it ::)
keep going Al and battle the Demons as you will win >:D
check yer soon mate - B ;)
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Been to see the frame today ??? and to say that i feel for Al is a understatement :'(
The whole thing will not polish out now :-[ i can say that for sure - it's more on there now so it's going to need a re-chrome for sure - i would say that he gets it done and carry's it on forward - as if it just gets a powder, it will be the "what would it of been like" frame
it's such a shame the money that was spent and lost, to having the wrong people touch it ::)
keep going Al and battle the Demons as you will win >:D
check yer soon mate - B ;)
Was the damage down to the chromers or the courier?
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Been to see the frame today ??? and to say that i feel for Al is a understatement :'(
The whole thing will not polish out now :-[ i can say that for sure - it's more on there now so it's going to need a re-chrome for sure - i would say that he gets it done and carry's it on forward - as if it just gets a powder, it will be the "what would it of been like" frame
it's such a shame the money that was spent and lost, to having the wrong people touch it ::)
keep going Al and battle the Demons as you will win >:D
check yer soon mate - B ;)
Fook :'( gutted for you Al, what a nightmare this has been.... :buck2:
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Al, this will be such a stunning bike once it's done, your patience and perseverence will prove that.
You could have quite easily said it's good but not perfect and started slapping parts on to get it built, but you didn't, you've stuck to your guns, waited and thrown more cash at it, and that commitment will pay off with the end result.
I would've bailed the project a long time ago, I have no will power.
Can't wait to see this completed though. :coolsmiley:
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I can not say and i'm not putting anyone to blame - full stop
Al just wanted me to have a look at the frame and have a second opion - All i will say is it can not be saved and will have to be rechromed, as no ammount of polishing will save what i saw !
B
maybe we should start a fund to help out one of out fallen :'(
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Frame is battered, and nowt i can do about that :-[
Anyhoo Its been boxed and has just been collected again to go back to Allen chrome :uglystupid2:
Another £150 down the shitter :2funny:
I was very very close to just gettin the whole fooking thing powded and be done with it, but the amount of money and time not to mention tears that has been put into this i couldn't do it....this is the last time though I've spoken to Allen Chroming again and they reckon the frame will be good for another chrome but thats it....on final roll of the dice, he's gonna try and do a quick turnaround on the frame so hopefully I'll have for MK11....we'll see ::)
Bendy Dude, thanks for comin over to see me and puttin my right...I think i still had some grand illusions of being able to polish it ;D
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Far out, mate I feel for you this has been a nightmare for you hopefully this will be the last time you have to go through this pain :daumenhoch:
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wow :shocked: :(
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I can not say and i'm not putting anyone to blame - full stop
Al just wanted me to have a look at the frame and have a second opion - All i will say is it can not be saved and will have to be rechromed, as no ammount of polishing will save what i saw !
B
maybe we should start a fund to help out one of out fallen :'(
Sounds good to me, i'll put in a tenner as Al's a top bloke and nobody deserves this shit when building... :daumenhoch:
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I can not say and i'm not putting anyone to blame - full stop
Al just wanted me to have a look at the frame and have a second opion - All i will say is it can not be saved and will have to be rechromed, as no ammount of polishing will save what i saw !
B
maybe we should start a fund to help out one of out fallen :'(
Sounds good to me, i'll put in a tenner as Al's a top bloke and nobody deserves this shit when building... :daumenhoch:
Really appreciate the offer dude, but I'm good thx pal, I can handle the cost, its just a shitter having to put my hand in my pocket again ;D
I tell ya wot, put ya tenner to good use and give to griff, pickle & spike 371 for doing that London to Brighton ride on the BMX's, now that is money well spent :daumenhoch: :uglystupid2: ;)
Cheers
Al
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That is a great colour choice, hope it comes back ok this time.
*L2B on a bmx! I know some folks who did that back in the 90's, mad, just mad. ;D
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Really appreciate the offer dude, but I'm good thx pal, I can handle the cost, its just a shitter having to put my hand in my pocket again ;D
I tell ya wot, put ya tenner to good use and give to griff, pickle & spike 371 for doing that London to Brighton ride on the BMX's, now that is money well spent :daumenhoch: :uglystupid2: ;)
Cheers
Al
Thanks for the plug Al - very kind of you (would suggest anyone wishing to donate use Pickle's page, as his total could do with a little boost :daumenhoch:)
Can't believe you're still having to put money into that frame, but it will be lovely when it's done :daumenhoch:
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Here we go again ;D :idiot2:
Super Fast Turnaround by the Boys up at Allen Chrome, Dave up there was expecting his 1st Kiddie anyday so a MASSIVE thankyou to him for turning this around before his Paternity leave (Hope your a very very proud dad dude :daumenhoch:)
So 2 weeks after sending up i have the blighter back with me, 10 hours of polishing again and the chrome done again...considering how many times this thing has been chromed now I'm really really pleased with the finish, there is a little roughness around the rear dropouts where they couldn't get with the polishing wheel but nothing to bad, gonna send back to to Dan again on Monday....Dan gonna chuck a pair of Cotton Gloves in the box big fella for your big Paws,just to avoid finger prints :LolLolLolLol:
I'll get some pics up tonite of the chromed up frame :daumenhoch:
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Light at the end of the Tunnel ??? I fooking hope so ::)
Al
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2nd time lucky mate :daumenhoch:
sure it's going to look lovely when it's done, then you can get it scratched up riding it!
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2nd time lucky mate :daumenhoch:
sure it's going to look lovely when it's done, then you can get it scratched up riding it!
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Cheers Griff, its on its way back to DAN as we speak, NO WAY is this a show Pony now, way to much time and effoert spent on it...Need to enjoy it ;D Is there still a mini ramp at MK this year ::)
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Glad the chrome is sorted and ready for powder. Can't believe you want to ride it after spending SO MUCH of your hard-earned on it. :crazy2:
I couldn't bring myself to do that - the thought of tightening a wheel in the dropouts and damaging that lovely powder would kill me. :'(
You could buy an old school rider for a fraction of the money you've spent on the CW. :)