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Title: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on November 05, 2010, 11:43 PM
lucky enough to have this to restore, only one known to have survived  :)
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124ccc4a8b12b31.jpg)
and in it's glory
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124c84ae5fb6c6b.jpg)
and me on mine bitd
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124cd3d319ef557.jpg)
it's being dechromed at the moment before going to the metal work god that is sawzall for a seat tube replacement then back to the chromers

updates as it gets done  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: bobafett on November 05, 2010, 11:52 PM

Very cool Andy - with that gusset and the loopy end it looks a bit like a Jag - interesting frame mate  ;)

Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: kuwahero on November 05, 2010, 11:59 PM
nice one andy. look forward to seeing this progress. dont let tone see it or he'll have it away.
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: MartyC on November 06, 2010, 03:46 AM
I'm pretty sure there are at least two more of these around but this will definitely be the first one to be restored.  I can't wait to see this done, I loved my ACE Racing Pro and was so gutted when it got nicked :'(.

Are you going to try and build in a Cav Strutt stylee (like the one in the advert) or are you going with a different build?
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: Swivel on November 06, 2010, 08:30 AM
Nice one mate, I bet Tony (ratty) would love this thread!  ;)
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: scary_leary on November 06, 2010, 08:32 AM
Sweet  :)
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: brettypeeps on November 06, 2010, 08:40 AM
Looking forward to seeing it returned to it's former glory  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: hunterdubber on November 06, 2010, 08:51 AM
ooooooOOOOOOO Yeah   :coolsmiley:

Hmmm very JAG-esque as Dr Boba said  :)

You've got my attention ,come on , crack on wi' it then  ;)  :D
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: sid1972 on November 06, 2010, 10:53 AM
wow - are you doing a replica of your old one?
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: 58 delray on November 06, 2010, 12:55 PM
I'm pretty sure there are at least two more of these around but this will definitely be the first one to be restored.  I can't wait to see this done, I loved my ACE Racing Pro and was so gutted when it got nicked :'(.

Are you going to try and build in a Cav Strutt stylee (like the one in the advert) or are you going with a different build?
not quite sure what the final spec will be but it will deffo be period correct, araya 7Cs, red line brute stem etc etc
the cook bros bars on the one Cav is riding are proving a bit elusive to say the least, so maybe GT santa ana bars and i'm gonna want some comp 2s if any one has some going spare  ::)
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: fischflo on November 06, 2010, 01:32 PM
uh oh .... wait 'till Ratty hears about this, fasten your seatbelts  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: MartyC on November 06, 2010, 01:41 PM
I'm pretty sure there are at least two more of these around but this will definitely be the first one to be restored.  I can't wait to see this done, I loved my ACE Racing Pro and was so gutted when it got nicked :'(.

Are you going to try and build in a Cav Strutt stylee (like the one in the advert) or are you going with a different build?
not quite sure what the final spec will be but it will deffo be period correct, araya 7Cs, red line brute stem etc etc
the cook bros bars on the one Cav is riding are proving a bit elusive to say the least, so maybe GT santa ana bars and i'm gonna want some comp 2s if any one has some going spare  ::)

Good stuff, 7c's are deffo the right choice although maybe a Suntour stem rather than a Redline Brute (I only saw a couple of those bitd, seen many more nowadays though!).  There's a pair of Cook's bar on US ebay at the moment  but I say build it as you like, just hurry up with it  :LolLolLolLol:


Very cool Andy - with that gusset and the loopy end it looks a bit like a Jag - interesting frame mate  ;)

They were originally designed around the Cook Bros frame IIRC  ;)
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: kdw712 on November 06, 2010, 01:59 PM
wow nice to see one at last  :daumenhoch:

its gonna be a cracking build

as said already the frame is very jag like
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: 58 delray on November 06, 2010, 04:50 PM
I'm pretty sure there are at least two more of these around but this will definitely be the first one to be restored.  I can't wait to see this done, I loved my ACE Racing Pro and was so gutted when it got nicked :'(.

Are you going to try and build in a Cav Strutt stylee (like the one in the advert) or are you going with a different build?
not quite sure what the final spec will be but it will deffo be period correct, araya 7Cs, red line brute stem etc etc
the cook bros bars on the one Cav is riding are proving a bit elusive to say the least, so maybe GT santa ana bars and i'm gonna want some comp 2s if any one has some going spare  ::)

Good stuff, 7c's are deffo the right choice although maybe a Suntour stem rather than a Redline Brute (I only saw a couple of those bitd, seen many more nowadays though!).  There's a pair of Cook's bar on US ebay at the moment  but I say build it as you like, just hurry up with it  :LolLolLolLol:


Very cool Andy - with that gusset and the loopy end it looks a bit like a Jag - interesting frame mate  ;)

They were originally designed around the Cook Bros frame IIRC  ;)
if you look closely at the Cav Strutt picture you can see he had a Redline brute stem on his although as you say suntours were more common, in fact i had a Suntour on mine  :daumenhoch:
you are totaly correct when you say they were designed around the Cook bros frame  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: MartyC on November 06, 2010, 05:39 PM
if you look closely at the Cav Strutt picture you can see he had a Redline brute stem on his although as you say suntours were more common, in fact i had a Suntour on mine  :daumenhoch:
you are totaly correct when you say they were designed around the Cook bros frame  :daumenhoch:

Eagle eyed  :LolLolLolLol:

I remember talking to Cav about the frames before they went on sale and managed to get Richard Barrington to let me have one at a discount before they were officially released!  I also got a jersey and race pants too but only have the race pants still, no idea what happened to the jersey!
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: 58 delray on November 07, 2010, 03:08 PM
here you go Marty, a Cook Bros frame, you can see the dropouts and the brake bridge are almost identical to the Ace

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124cd6ba2bafb4e.jpg)
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124cd6ba2b36a56.jpg)
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124cd6ba2a9bd6f.jpg)
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: MartyC on November 07, 2010, 03:34 PM
Yeah, very, very similar!

I think Cav had a Cooks Bros at one point which is probably why the ACE Racing is styled that way  ;)
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: Mattdub on November 08, 2010, 08:56 AM
Very cool Andy , look forward to progress on this one  ;)
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: NORTY40 on November 08, 2010, 09:24 AM
Looks like you have one rare piece of kit there   8)

Looking forward to seeing it completed  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare resto
Post by: monkian on November 08, 2010, 11:31 AM
Sweet :coolsmiley:
Any thoughts on parts? Recreate the ad bike or yours?
Title: Re: rare ACE resto update
Post by: 58 delray on March 19, 2011, 12:13 AM
sawzalls magic  :daumenhoch:
seat tube needed replacing

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124d81fa9c90b2a.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124d81fa9d108c7.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124d81fa9ce6dc0.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124d81fa9cbd9c2.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124d81fa9ca4f52.jpg)
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 18/03/11
Post by: CD17 on March 19, 2011, 06:25 AM
Quality work  8) 
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 18/03/11
Post by: MartyC on March 19, 2011, 07:56 AM
Quality work as ever  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 18/03/11
Post by: sid1972 on March 19, 2011, 04:35 PM
that is an awesome job...... :4_17_5:

Can I sign up for a ' YTS' with Phil... :P
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on June 02, 2011, 10:03 PM
now back from Phil with the replacment seat tube brazed in  :)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124de7f8eec2de0.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124de7f8ec6aa0d.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124de7f8ea58db6.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124de7f8e87fcf6.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124de7f8e66c5ca.jpg)

he also sorted the kink in the gusset and polished inside the gusset ready for the chromers, many thanks mate  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: ron burgundy on June 02, 2011, 10:07 PM
Very nice :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: kungfunky on June 02, 2011, 10:28 PM
seriously cool Andy  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: Mattdub on June 02, 2011, 10:38 PM

yum  ;)
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: GTnumber1 on June 02, 2011, 10:44 PM
cool as fook andy  :daumenhoch:


phil.................. LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: Jaymz on June 02, 2011, 10:48 PM
awesome thread so far  :daumenhoch:

the frame even looks cool raw! great work by sawzall again as well
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on June 02, 2011, 11:07 PM
thanks for the comments so far guys, but phils the man who's done the work so far  :4_17_5:  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on June 02, 2011, 11:48 PM
also got the elusive cook bros bars  a while ago thanks to my wife.

 (http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124d4f2b7c4ccd8.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124d4f2b7c39854.jpg)

plus i have the 7Cs (from germany) and the brute stem (thanks Nikki & tony) and the brake from sawzall (81 stamped dc 1020) and nos in it's bag rear blue terry cable, plus a nos tech 2 lever,
stuck for cranks at the moment, realy need some mint blue maxy cross but have other options so we will see.
next step is off to the chromers  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on June 02, 2011, 11:50 PM
oh and i still need some comp 2s  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: pickle on June 03, 2011, 08:07 AM
awesome!!  and Phil is a true legend!!   :4_17_5:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: Kaner on June 03, 2011, 09:44 AM
This is going to be a quality build Andy, it's so individual. Love it.

Looking forward to seeing it all finished at MK!
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: MartyC on June 03, 2011, 04:33 PM
Love it  :smitten:

Wish I could get one, would be my last build for sure  :smitten:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: griff on June 03, 2011, 05:13 PM

the frame even looks cool raw! great work by sawzall again as well

+1 those joins  :smitten:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on June 03, 2011, 06:06 PM
This is going to be a quality build Andy, it's so individual. Love it.

Looking forward to seeing it all finished at MK!
the chromers have a 16 week leed time  :(  so it'not gonna be done in time mate, might just bring the frame in it's raw state?
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: In2 bmx on June 03, 2011, 06:24 PM
Very cool  :coolsmiley: . Thats gonna be amazing .  :smitten:

Great work Phil  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on June 03, 2011, 09:25 PM


phil is awesome
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: bobafett on June 07, 2011, 12:20 AM

ace  :coolsmiley:


Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: Kaner on June 07, 2011, 10:45 AM
This is going to be a quality build Andy, it's so individual. Love it.

Looking forward to seeing it all finished at MK!
the chromers have a 16 week leed time  :(  so it'not gonna be done in time mate, might just bring the frame in it's raw state?

That would be cool!
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: hunterdubber on June 15, 2011, 10:55 PM
Andy have you anymore history on these , years of manufacture , who made them ( factory and location ) etc,etc  :)
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: steve69 on June 15, 2011, 11:12 PM
What chromers are you gonna be using Andy, seems a very long wait :-\
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on June 16, 2011, 10:13 AM
Andy have you anymore history on these , years of manufacture , who made them ( factory and location ) etc,etc  :)
rattys history of ACE Racing thread

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=61968.0

as far as i know they were only made in 1981, but as for where richard barrington had them made i don't know
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on June 16, 2011, 10:14 AM
What chromers are you gonna be using Andy, seems a very long wait :-\
a place in yorkshire as their work that i have seen is spot on  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: MartyC on June 16, 2011, 01:18 PM
Andy have you anymore history on these , years of manufacture , who made them ( factory and location ) etc,etc  :)
rattys history of ACE Racing thread

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=61968.0

as far as i know they were only made in 1981, but as for where richard barrington had them made i don't know

When ACE folded Richard sold the stock to Superbike who had knocked them out adinfinitum yet only a few remain and only one it seems that we know of :(.  If any ever sees one please let me know  :daumenhoch:.
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: Spen69 on June 16, 2011, 02:48 PM
a place in yorkshire as their work that i have seen is spot on  :daumenhoch:

Is that the place Paul uses Andy? If so, well worth the wait as their work is awesome :4_17_5:

Love this thread - Phil did exactly the same to my brother's white 600a you saw him building up last year at MK and you'd never know, the work is so good :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on June 16, 2011, 02:55 PM
some also ended up in a shop in SE london when ACE folded but can't for the life of me remember it's name, but they were advertised in a mag at the time and my dad took me over and bought my one for £35  :)
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on June 16, 2011, 03:00 PM
a place in yorkshire as their work that i have seen is spot on  :daumenhoch:

Is that the place Paul uses Andy? If so, well worth the wait as their work is awesome :4_17_5:

Love this thread - Phil did exactly the same to my brother's white 600a you saw him building up last year at MK and you'd never know, the work is so good :daumenhoch:
yep, thats the place, a good price and from what i've seen very good work  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: neil on August 03, 2011, 11:24 PM
Andy just as youve said that Ace is something special
 :smitten:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: Glynnyboy on August 04, 2011, 02:06 PM
Mind blowing.....Can't wait for this, great progress thread :smitten: :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on August 09, 2011, 03:21 PM
as some of you know i took the bare frame to MK with me and it was hung up in the british bike gazebo all weekend. this is just a quick thank you for all the positive comments and encouragement i got about it over the weekend, but the real credit so far must go to Sawzall for his amazing work in repairing the frame, cheers mate

  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: bobafett on August 09, 2011, 03:23 PM

Phil = Legend  8)

Cool frame Andy, was nice to meet up with you at last  :)

Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: MartyC on August 09, 2011, 03:38 PM
as some of you know i took the bare frame to MK with me and it was hung up in the british bike gazebo all weekend. this is just a quick thank you for all the positive coments and encouragement i got about it over the weekend, but the real credit sofar must go to Sawzall for his amazing work in repairing the frame, cheers mate

  :4_17_5:

TTIUWOP

Wish I had been there to see it too  ;)
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: animal on August 09, 2011, 07:32 PM
Loved this at MK fella  :smitten: can't wait 4 u 2 get it 2 the build stage  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: Hootski70 on August 09, 2011, 07:45 PM
That frame is awesome mate , even better in the flesh , Credit to Phil the workmanship is as usual top dollar . Get it done and thrash it round the track next year  :laugh:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on August 09, 2011, 07:50 PM
That frame is awesome mate , even better in the flesh , Credit to Phil the workmanship is as usual top dollar . Get it done and thrash it round the track next year  :laugh:

you know i ride all my bikes Si but this one is gonna be a pony as i've been advised by Phil that the metal is very brittle  :(
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on August 09, 2011, 08:05 PM
hanging up at the back of the amazing British bike display

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124e41844da320b.jpg)
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: MartyC on August 10, 2011, 01:24 PM
hanging up at the back of the amazing British bike display

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124e41844da320b.jpg)

 :4_17_5:
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: stidds on August 10, 2011, 11:42 PM
Fooking carpet queens, get out and ride the thing, not sit and look at it.  :LolLolLolLol:

Love ya really Andy  :-*
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: 58 delray on August 11, 2011, 12:05 AM
Fooking carpet queens, get out and ride the thing, not sit and look at it.  :LolLolLolLol:

Love ya really Andy  :-*
would love to ride it sean but the metal is just too brittle  :(

found a better pic of it hanging up  :daumenhoch:

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/124e430dc4c5528.jpg)
Title: Re: rare ACE resto updated 02/06/11
Post by: kungfunky on August 11, 2011, 09:42 AM
that tent was the best there for me  :Great_Britain: cant wait for the ACE to be done Andy  :smitten:
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