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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: griff on November 10, 2010, 09:16 PM
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evening all
my new skyways arrived today :) got them straight out the box and went to try them on the frame, but found a slight problem
they fit in the rear dropouts no probs, but the forks are another matter - while they are defo the right size the fork dropouts are thinner near the end and wider where the axle should sit. they don't want to go on with mild force but i haven't tried whacking them in or filing anything down
I did wonder if it's the powder coat, but don't want to really force them on and risk messing up the finish, although might not have a choice
is this normal with haro forks? I think the previous owner ( harorider ) had new school tuffs on there before and can't see any damage...
thought i'd better ask before I go and mess up SBDs fine workmanship
cheers
griff
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has'nt the wheel axles got the flat spots on them ?.
if not its either change em out for the right sort.or get the file out and take a little bit out ya forks :D
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Old school forks are designed to have flat axles, just file them a little bit where they go in the dropouts.
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As said twice you will need to file them down. You might want to cut them down aswell as they are normally long. Leave the nuts on if you cut them down as they will clean the threads up when you take the nuts off. :daumenhoch:
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pop over again bud if you need a hand!
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HANG ON BEFORE YOU FILE ANYTHING
are these the new school graphites you were on about, if so just take the allen head axle bolts out, put the wheel in place in the forks and then put the allen head axle bolts in with the correct washers that should have come with them :daumenhoch:
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Thanks guys
no flat spots on the axles - they're just threaded all the way along, thought I'd be ok with 10mm axles ::)
are there different axles available for NS tuffs as well as this type?
as brettypeeps said they're also a bit on the long side!
my toolkit's not really up to the job, plus tbh I'm a bit nervous about fooking up a brand new wheel
dave if you fancy giving me a hand sometime I'd be very grateful :daumenhoch:
cheers
griff
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give us a shout when's convient. :daumenhoch:
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Don't worry Griff... I'm the man for the job :D
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HANG ON BEFORE YOU FILE ANYTHING
are these the new school graphites you were on about, if so just take the allen head axle bolts out, put the wheel in place in the forks and then put the allen head axle bolts in with the correct washers that should have come with them :daumenhoch:
no mate they're regular black tuffs - the guy selling graphites relisted em for 175 quid!
the axles don't have allen heads in them, just a bolt and washer - need to get some more washers too to space em out a bit methinks
don't worry I'm not going to file anything! (no file for a start ;D )
cheers
griff
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just seen this,i did have new school tuffs on and axles went in ok although i did have to pull forks apart slightly to allow for washers but thinking about it was there a thing about the new school tuffs having 2 different types of axles fitted :-\
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Don't worry Griff... I'm the man for the job :D
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/IMG_0732.jpg)
haha Ed you mad fooker - that's a great pic tho
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just seen this,i did have new school tuffs on and axles went in ok although i did have to pull forks apart slightly to allow for washers but thinking about it was there a thing about the new school tuffs having 2 different types of axles fitted :-\
The 2010 wheels have new axles fitted in them because the guy that ordered them for the UK (Distributer) insisted they come with ridiculous axles. I had a chat with skyway earlier this year about it and they told me all about it. it is either a new axle or file and cut unfortunately :knuppel2:
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just seen this,i did have new school tuffs on and axles went in ok although i did have to pull forks apart slightly to allow for washers but thinking about it was there a thing about the new school tuffs having 2 different types of axles fitted :-\
If I line up the wheel to the forks it looks like it needs some spacers in there (I thought the washer and nut should go on the outside so the nut doesn't grind off the paint when I tighten it)
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they do but some people also put thin washers on the inside too to prevent chewed up drop outs hence why the haro ones were pretty good :daumenhoch:
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they do but some people also put thin washers on the inside too to prevent chewed up drop outs hence why the haro ones were pretty good :daumenhoch:
there's plenty of room inside - someone must have pulled em apart :LolLolLolLol:
on the lookout for 10mm washers ;D
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got a bag full of em!!
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just seen this,i did have new school tuffs on and axles went in ok although i did have to pull forks apart slightly to allow for washers but thinking about it was there a thing about the new school tuffs having 2 different types of axles fitted :-\
If I line up the wheel to the forks it looks like it needs some spacers in there (I thought the washer and nut should go on the outside so the nut doesn't grind off the paint when I tighten it)
On my master I have washers on both inside and outside of the frame and forks. 8x washers on total . I got some if Hutchman cant help you out :daumenhoch:
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got a bag full of em!!
swap for some Leffe?
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Don't worry Griff... I'm the man for the job :D
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/IMG_0732.jpg)
haha Ed you mad fooker - that's a great pic tho
Files are for girls... ANGLE GRINDERZ mmm :smitten:
got my new school axles to fit my old school bike >:D
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Took mine to a local engineer cut all 4 axels shorter and filed the front-job done £5 :daumenhoch:
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griff, do you have some pics of the problem?
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could always try these? but as usual wankstanlys doesn't have any in stock (now there's a surprise!)
http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/36653/Skyway_1365mm_x_38_Front_Axle_wFlat_Spot
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could always try these? but as usual wankstanlys doesn't have any in stock (now there's a surprise!)
http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/36653/Skyway_1365mm_x_38_Front_Axle_wFlat_Spot
I doubt it Rob, W4nstanleys stock system works in reverse; they have stock when the computer says No and no stock when the computer says Yes :LolLolLolLol:
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off to see the hutchman later :daumenhoch:
am sure it will be fixed but there's always the new axle option, thanks to all for your advice
love this site
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Took mine to a local engineer cut all 4 axels shorter and filed the front-job done £5 :daumenhoch:
you got a bargain sweetbeats
just took my axles to a local engineer to shorten mine - he said 'oh they won't take long' and I handed em to him
should have asked him how much before instead of after - when I asked him he told me 'about 15 quid' ::)
next time will find someone back home in brum to do it! bet it would be a lot cheaper
ah well at least I'll have my wheels sorted soon!
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hows things coming along Griff?
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hows things coming along Griff?
hi dave
not too far off now mate - sorted for most bits now but need to wait for the haro chainring to arrive from thailand so I can see what condition it's in - apparently it's made of duralumin. buzzing though as I'm so close!!!
still looking for a pair of those SE axle washers though - can't find any apart from vertego (managed to avoid so far so still holding out for any other source)
hpw's things with you? started any more projects?
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Not yet Griff,but hopefully ANOTHER Hutch on the cards.soon.
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Not yet Griff,but hopefully ANOTHER Hutch on the cards.soon.
haha - at least you're consistent!
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Not yet Griff,but hopefully ANOTHER Hutch on the cards.soon.
haha - at least you're consistent!
thats me!! :LolLolLolLol: