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Title: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on November 30, 2010, 02:18 PM
don't know if this has been threaded before

but checking out these in OZ - how long before they flood over to UK ebay
and will some spot the difference ?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/OLD-SCHOOL-BMX-MX-1000-BRAKES-FRONT-AND-REAR-CALIPERS-/180570509130?pt=AU_Sport_Cycling_Parts&hash=item2a0ad74f4a
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: wildon on November 30, 2010, 02:21 PM
Porkchop in US is selling these. From what I've read he seems to have arranged a lot of the latest rereleases from DC
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on November 30, 2010, 02:24 PM
seen 901's and bulldogs and loads of small parts

so will this bring down the high price of original dia compe brakes ?

will peeps settle for re-issue gear and not want to pay the higher price of old gear ?
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Rodgy1970 on November 30, 2010, 02:35 PM
AFAIK they aren't exact copies so I don't think they will affect the price of the originals that much if at all and they aren't doing MX900's (yet anyway).

Don't now much much better they'll be than the snides already available   :-\
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on November 30, 2010, 02:40 PM
well i hope they are better than the £19.99 jobs on there at the mo

would be nice to have a cheaper style set to sit in the middle that would suit rider bikes or replace cheap copys on some builds

just finishing a MT Racing silver fox with copys - but would so much better with these on it  ;)
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Munnyella on November 30, 2010, 02:44 PM
Hard to tell from the photo's, but the quality on those looks sh!te doesn't it?, they do look like the real poor quality copies, ok, they've got QR's on, but they don't even look close on quality to originals.

If I were buying, and couldn't go old DC, i'd rather put some Lee chi or similar on than them!
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: double chevron on November 30, 2010, 02:52 PM
Looks nowhere close to the originals quality from those pics...
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: rooski on November 30, 2010, 03:05 PM
quality looks shite,this is good :)
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: wildon on November 30, 2010, 03:18 PM
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=249511&p=9
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Peter J on November 30, 2010, 03:27 PM
Don't think quality is there  :'(
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on November 30, 2010, 03:46 PM
they look a bit better than the ebay add pic but seemed not to be stamped on the front and that lump of metal on the side

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/bmx%20parts%20to%20sell/mx1000preview.jpg)
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: xGoose on November 30, 2010, 03:52 PM
+1 with all those comments, they look similar like formos and lee chi's do but they aint the real deal and if I was putting an era build back together they just wouldnt do for me Im afraid.


Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Swivel on November 30, 2010, 03:52 PM
Shape don't look right to me  :-\
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: MartyC on November 30, 2010, 04:06 PM
No Wienman Adjuster, wrong shaped QR, wrong pads; maybe ok for a rider but not for my builds  :-X
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: bobafett on November 30, 2010, 04:15 PM

Wow - they look sh!t  :)

So that's good news  ;)

Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: ozone on November 30, 2010, 04:16 PM
Pretty poor effort from Dia Compe but props to Pork Chop for trying.  This quote is from the BMXMuseum thread...

Porkchopzz4

First off, these are "real" Dia-Compe brakes.. because they're made by Dia-Compe. But, as discussed about 2 years ago, when I started getting brakes re-made by Dia-Compe, the tooling for most items, including the MX1000's, no longer existed. Dia-Compe has made new tooling, and that is what is used to make these brakes. They are not meant to be exact copies nor did Dia-Compe attempt to make them exactly the same as the originals (for one thing, they wanted to use hardware they had on the shelf).

The MX logo is laser engraved - back when it was stamped as part of the drop forge tooling, that was the first bit that wore out on the tool.

Price should be similar to that of the 883's... maybe a couple bucks more based on the fact I'm going to have to rent some additional space to store this huge order  

Maybe that explains the issues which have been pointed out.  They aren't that much better than those ebay knock-offs IMO which is a shame but good news for the collectors who plan to retire on their profits when they sell up.   ;D
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Dark Diggler on November 30, 2010, 04:23 PM
Why ?

Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: xGoose on November 30, 2010, 04:25 PM

Wow - they look sh!t  :)

So that's good news  ;)




^^^ ;D

Not even close are they!

THIS is a set of DC MX1000's! (or a 1000 and a 900 cant remember what Ive got in red!)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt134/botophuket/IMG_3339.jpg)


Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Swivel on November 30, 2010, 04:36 PM
They aren't that much better than those ebay knock-offs IMO

True, i've seen better copies than these about even some floating around rad over time. Some of Pork chops stuff is good like the dominators but these look shite.
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on November 30, 2010, 04:44 PM
if there gonna remake stuff, why don't they talk to the peeps that know there stuff ?  i can see that they didn't want to make a copy of the org, but why not make some thing that is pleasing to the bmxers eye and not just the pocket of dia compe ?

i would put them on a rider but at the price they seem to be it might be worth saving for some real one's - cheaper price would have made it easier to look at

cheers B  ;)
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: sid1972 on November 30, 2010, 04:49 PM
very poor ..... and for that price I would rather restore some knackered originals.  ;)
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Bob_Acid on November 30, 2010, 05:51 PM
They do look like them snide ones from the 80's don't they. The one thing that gave MX1000 the edge was the adjuster and these don't seem to have them. Pretty funny eh? even Dia Compe can't get them right  :P
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: wildon on November 30, 2010, 06:15 PM
I don't really see why DC would even bother remaking them... i cant see many os collectors using them and no ns or young kids are going to buy them.  Surely the revenue they are going to generate aint going to be up to much
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: sweetbeats on November 30, 2010, 08:45 PM
Dire compe.
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: jT Racing on November 30, 2010, 08:54 PM
are they from dia compe, or some john de bruin  asshole special.
some tit will have them in bike of the month though, with re-issue profiles and re-pop hutch pedals, re-pop b1b's, re-pop comp3's, etc.etc..
about as old school as a ps3 and 3d tv's
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: sweetbeats on November 30, 2010, 09:28 PM
are they from dia compe, or some john de bruin  asshole special.
some tit will have them in bike of the month though, with re-issue profiles and re-pop hutch pedals, re-pop b1b's, re-pop comp3's, etc.etc..
about as old school as a ps3 and 3d tv's
Can't see the point me all seems badly thought out like most re pop stuff so far. Think all the old nice bits should be left alone.
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: bobafett on November 30, 2010, 10:20 PM
Dire compe.

 :LolLolLolLol:

Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Waxintaxin on November 30, 2010, 10:25 PM
go well on some retro re release junk
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Bob_Acid on November 30, 2010, 11:11 PM
So what are we missing now to make up a complete retro bike that's made by the original maker using copies of the original piece?

I can do you cranks, frames, bars, grips, tyres, pads, seats, pedals, Tuffs,

Can anyone do me...

Stems?
Alloys wheels?

MX1000's, yeah,  but no levers.
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: hunterdubber on November 30, 2010, 11:37 PM
A few few do repop stems Roberto  :-\

ESP , Hutch ,,,,
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Bob_Acid on November 30, 2010, 11:42 PM
Are them JDB Hutch stems available yet?

ESP ones are Nu skool innit?
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: hunterdubber on November 30, 2010, 11:52 PM
Are them JDB Hutch stems available yet?

ESP ones are Nu skool innit?

Err oh yeah  :D  ;)

I know the latest ESP are 1 1/8 but a few people have done repops Gossa included  :)

were none by ESP then  :-\


The Hutch ones have been available a while

I think Martylaa ordered a couple at least ,, they were in different colours of anno

silver , black , blue, and red


There was a post on Museum earlier in 2010  :)

Those were 1" quill

and actually got made ,not just took orders and peoples money  :D
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Bob_Acid on December 01, 2010, 01:13 AM
Ok so all we need are levers and alloys
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Swivel on December 01, 2010, 08:55 AM
Instead of alloys you could use the re-release tuff wheels Bob :)
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Mattdub on December 01, 2010, 09:11 AM
Those brakes do indeed look shite , if I was a trader I would'nt keep any stock because I don't think I'd sell any  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Why isnt this working on December 01, 2010, 09:40 AM
Its good because there not right. So this helps us keep old school collecting "pure"....ish  ;D.

Si.  :)
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on December 01, 2010, 11:10 AM
The one thing they can't copy is US and our memories of what went down back in the day  :daumenhoch:

it's just a cash-in thing - them seeing the prices that have been pushed up higher and higher by demand or the control or parts by a new bread of seller that has no history with the item and only sees it as a commodity

it seems like we use to have control of prices and need for parts - but it has now been overtaken buy a greed of money and not a love of lifestyle

some of the parts may have been reproduced for a good reason but most are now just jumping on the band wagon for profit

to what we use on rides and weather it looks right or is acceptable will be seen

we will always hate the fact that others are cashing in on a scene that we love - as for the companies that we admire for producing the product in the first place now cashing in onthe act - well life changes and not always for the best  :-\


cheers B  :D
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Glynnyboy on December 01, 2010, 05:41 PM
When i 1st saw this thread i thought ....crap i just bought 4 of them quick release levers to restore some crappy old ones i have that need resto. Glad these are pants and the resto can go ahead.
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Dark Diggler on December 01, 2010, 07:59 PM
So what are we missing now to make up a complete retro bike that's made by the original maker using copies of the original piece?

I can do you cranks, frames, bars, grips, tyres, pads, seats, pedals, Tuffs,

Can anyone do me...


Oh go on then stud
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/uu286/zxq_photo/gok-wanjpg.jpg)
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: retrogeezer on December 04, 2010, 09:50 AM
jeez, they are bad aren't they!!

Chang Star made good copies back in the day and Lee Chi as already mentioned so what happened to their tooling??

I bought some good black copies off (can't remember who) a few years back.
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: HARORIDER on December 04, 2010, 11:33 AM
was the adjusters on these new dc brakes more reliable than the old weinmann adjusters :-\
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on December 04, 2010, 11:55 AM
the blue copy's i had looked cleaner and had more of a professional feel/look - these seem to be a friday afternoon knock up and done by the end of the day

i just think that the design style of think was missed  ::)
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: sweetbeats on December 04, 2010, 11:58 AM
They are a pile of Toss-end of Story.....Epic Fail DC  :2funny:
Title: Re: 1000 dia compe re-issue
Post by: Rodgy1970 on December 04, 2010, 12:17 PM
was the adjusters on these new dc brakes more reliable than the old weinmann adjusters :-\

I believe they are but never used them myself   
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