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Title: A Rotter
Post by: eamonn on December 12, 2010, 09:29 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOS-BMX-DIA-COMPE-TECH-4-LEVERS-PR-BLUE-OLD-SCHOOL-NIP-/300500099586?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item45f733a202

£40 for tech 4 f@ck off
Title: Re: A prick
Post by: waza04 on December 12, 2010, 09:35 PM
im surprised there not £140 off biagio............ he's still  gonna have all his old school parts in another 30 years with his prices!  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: A prick
Post by: simo27 on December 12, 2010, 10:04 PM
Good grief, Ive heard he's expensive but this seems slightly high :shocked:
Title: Re: A prick
Post by: Jt on December 12, 2010, 10:11 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOS-BMX-DIA-COMPE-TECH-4-LEVERS-PR-BLUE-OLD-SCHOOL-NIP-/300500099586?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item45f733a202

£40 for tech 4 f@ck off

supply and demand.

not sure what gives you the right to call him a prick, although you are entitled to your opinion...

its his job, what he chooses to do to make a living.

do you tell eveyone who you deal with what you make from peddling your financial services?

didnt think so.

Problem here is, we all know how much they were 2,3,4 years ago and therefore we have a good idea of what his margins are. Why resent him? just dont use him...

let him get on with it, if people want to pay then let them.


Title: Re: A prick
Post by: Jon The Bassist on December 12, 2010, 10:15 PM
No worse than the heavy seats and posts, which we used to throw away BiTD, going for silly money now  :-X
Title: Re: A prick
Post by: Tefore on December 12, 2010, 10:22 PM
i think this is more scary
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOS-BMX-SUNTOUR-SEAT-CLAMP-RED-1-NEW-NIP-OLD-SCHOOL-/290507724123?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item43a39c155b
Title: Re: A prick
Post by: Dark Diggler on December 12, 2010, 10:23 PM
This is a prick

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p70/simonjturner/Dam019.jpg)

and here's 2

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p70/simonjturner/Dam018.jpg)
Title: Re: A prick
Post by: eamonn on December 12, 2010, 10:34 PM
In Financial services the client knows what any adviser earns upfront - FACT

Unlike someone selling a pair of levers at x4 mark up

If you think hes fair good luck to you

Dont compare my occupation to him youre way off beam

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOS-BMX-DIA-COMPE-TECH-4-LEVERS-PR-BLUE-OLD-SCHOOL-NIP-/300500099586?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item45f733a202

£40 for tech 4 f@ck off

supply and demand.

not sure what gives you the right to call him a prick, although you are entitled to your opinion...

its his job, what he chooses to do to make a living.

do you tell eveyone who you deal with what you make from peddling your financial services?

didnt think so.

Problem here is, we all know how much they were 2,3,4 years ago and therefore we have a good idea of what his margins are. Why resent him? just dont use him...

let him get on with it, if people want to pay then let them.



Title: Re: A prick
Post by: Jt on December 12, 2010, 11:56 PM
hmmmm.

i didnt say he was fair, i said he was in it to make a living.

think you missed my point altogether.

your thread title.

is it really necessary?
Title: Re: A prick
Post by: eamonn on December 13, 2010, 12:05 AM
A tad strong??
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: Glynnyboy on December 13, 2010, 06:56 PM
Recently i have seen a few red suntour seat clamps finish in the 70 region. Tech 4's in blue around the 30 mark and above. Things are getting more expensive but his prices do always seem to be the highest of the high. I don't see why it constantly get's brought up though because it isn't even really that shocking any more.
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: hunterdubber on December 13, 2010, 06:59 PM
It's all relative  ::)





Title: Re: A prick
Post by: griff on December 13, 2010, 08:11 PM
^^ agree with JT - all about supply and demand, but personally I was determined that I wouldn't use that guy for my build and looks like I've managed it  :)
it's not like anyone has to sell to him either - personally if I had stuff to get rid of I'd rather it went to someone who was going to use it rather than restrict the market and drive up prices (bit like what they do with diamonds LOL) but if he pays what sellers want then that's their choice too eh?

one thing I wondered - as we all get older and people who remember 80s bikes first time round aren't into it anymore, do you think the market will peak at some point?
ie will today's mid & new school become the new 'old school', cos that's what kids today will have fond memories of?

Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: slurp on December 13, 2010, 08:22 PM
Recently i have seen a few red suntour seat clamps finish in the 70 region. Tech 4's in blue around the 30 mark and above. Things are getting more expensive but his prices do always seem to be the highest of the high. I don't see why it constantly get's brought up though because it isn't even really that shocking any more.
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and thats what shocks me the most.
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: mani on December 13, 2010, 08:57 PM
i think that people should realise that authentic stuff ie 80s stuff is on the up so shut up and live with it :-X
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: waza04 on December 13, 2010, 09:12 PM
i think that people should realise that authentic stuff ie 80s stuff is on the up so shut up and live with it :-X
:LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: pickle on December 13, 2010, 10:23 PM
Wouldn't buy off him if he was the last person on earth. But some people seem happy to pay his prices so bang on, the scary thing is that the same people get the hump when they try and sell the same stuff at the over inflated prices and no one wants it.
Title: Re: A prick
Post by: gobshite on December 14, 2010, 01:31 AM


one thing I wondered - as we all get older and people who remember 80s bikes first time round aren't into it anymore, do you think the market will peak at some point?
ie will today's mid & new school become the new 'old school', cos that's what kids today will have fond memories of?




no...


most of the "so called" bmx'ers on here only want have an interest in bmx inorder to reminisce,

they dumped bmx back in the day when it went out of fashion and completely forgot about it for 15-20 years,

theyre just collectors,

collecting stuff,

No real love for bmx,

no interest in the mid school,

no interest in the new school,

just looking back with rose tinted glasses trying to satiate their childhood desires by building the bikes they wanted back then,

the death of the old school was the best thing to happen to bmx IMO, it got rid of the hangers on and left a small group of genune riders that now for the most part own and run bmx, hoffman,moeller,morris,dawkins,etc,etc,
look at the biggest genuine bmx companies today and you'll see a mid school rider at the helm,

there were proportionally so few mid school riders that it stands to reason that we'll never see the idiocy and over hyped prices attached to the old school,

appreciation for the mid has been strong for a while now and even the iconic frames of the time Ie the holmes and dirtbike, STA,condor,etc still only go for very reachable and fair prices,

when i say "most on here", there are a small number of genuine bmx riders that stuck with it and i applaud them,
it just seems such a shame that because of the band-wagon jumpers its just not feasable to own a nice old school bike.


the day i see a £1000 holmes frame is the day i turn my back on the mid forever.
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: gobshite on December 14, 2010, 01:37 AM
and as someone who's met and sold stuff to mr blaggo ten years ago the guy is imo definitely a fooking prick.

you only have to look at his behaviour at MK10 for proof of that.

he may well prey on the old school bmx scene "for a living"

but heroin dealers chose what they do "to make a living"

it doesnt fooking make it right does it.
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: ED209 on December 14, 2010, 07:41 AM
Another festive thread I'm lovin  ;D
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: Dingobmxer on December 14, 2010, 07:48 AM
and as someone who's met and sold stuff to mr blaggo ten years ago the guy is imo definitely a fooking prick.

you only have to look at his behaviour at MK10 for proof of that.

he may well prey on the old school bmx scene "for a living"

but heroin dealers chose what they do "to make a living"

it doesnt fooking make it right does it.


he has a point though Ed

Dingo
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: Jt on December 14, 2010, 08:59 AM
he may well prey on the old school bmx scene "for a living"

but heroin dealers chose what they do "to make a living"

it doesnt fooking make it right does it.

horseshit.

i expect more from you, and your first post on the subject is testement to you passion and brain power, but you tried to hard with this bit.

utter utter bollocks.

 :D

Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: pickle on December 14, 2010, 09:12 AM
more examples of believing his own hype

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOS-BMX-SHIMANO-SX-PEDALS-9-16-BLACK-OLD-SCHOOL-ALLOY-/290512374609?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item43a3e30b51

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOS-BMX-ELINA-LIGHTENING-BOLT-SEAT-BLACK-1983-MIP-NIP-/300504650250?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item45f779120a

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOS-BMX-HARO-FREESTYLE-FUSION-STEM-HOLLOW-POTTS-BOLT-/290512380380?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item43a3e321dc

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOS-BMX-SR-CHRMO-LITE-1-PIECE-CRANK-180mm-OLD-SCHOOL-/300504656581?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item45f7792ac5

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOS-BMX-SUNTOUR-PRECISION-SEALED-HUBS-CHOICE-OLD-SCHOOL-/290512380400?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item43a3e321f0

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOS-BMX-SUGINO-1-PIECE-CRANK-CRO-MO-180mm-OLD-SCHOOL-/290512382534?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item43a3e32a46

The guys a cock!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: Rodgy1970 on December 14, 2010, 09:34 AM
he may well prey on the old school bmx scene "for a living"
but heroin dealers chose what they do "to make a living"
it doesnt fooking make it right does it.
horseshit.
i expect more from you, and your first post on the subject is testement to you passion and brain power, but you tried to hard with this bit.
utter utter bollocks.:D

What is utter utter bollox is him saying he is forced to charge his prices due to taxes.   :-\

The way he conducts himself in business is appalling, for example, restocking fees.   >:(

The sooner he runs out of stock the better   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: pickle on December 14, 2010, 09:43 AM

The sooner he runs out of stock the better   :daumenhoch:


 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: gobshite on December 14, 2010, 11:00 AM
he may well prey on the old school bmx scene "for a living"

but heroin dealers chose what they do "to make a living"

it doesnt fooking make it right does it.

horseshit.

i expect more from you, and your first post on the subject is testement to your passion and brain power, but you tried too hard with this bit.

utter utter bollocks.

 :D



i admit it was a poor analogy as one brings misery and death and the other brings happiness and appreciation,
you can surely see what i was trying to say though,
i read my post this am and it smacked of  spitting vitriol,which i'm trying to rid my life of.

tbh biagio could have actually been a great asset to the O/s scene, which makes it more of a shame when folks are left with a bitter taste in their mouths after dealing with him,
part of me wonders if he had sold his stuff at reasonable prices someone would have bought up chunks of his stock and done the same as him,
but the issues are not about the prices he charges, its how he goes about it,

i think that most of the collectors in the O/S secretly enjoy the ever rising hyped up prices,
i've watched the scene grow since day and before and seen it happen many times, folk get involved, build a couple of nice bikes, get bored , move on and keep the bikes stashed away as they know they'll be a good financial investment,
so parts and frames start to run out and the scene starts to die off,
there are those that genuinely love the old school and bmx in general, they build, ride and then split their builds and repeat the process, or they keep their collections and make the effort to get their builds out there to be seen appreciated and enjoyed by others,race them/show them,

i thought b was a prick from his attitude and from having seen his treatment of his customers over the years,
he isnt "bombing hanoi" though, if folk are foolish enough to pay his prices its entirely their fault,
i've absolutely no doubt that someone will repay b in terms of financial karmic retribution in the future,


so i'm done with this subject now, lifes short and there are better things for me to grumble about,
i'll not be posting in any related threads in the future.

cheers for the compliments though J.T, i feel the same about your good-self and your passion for bmx.
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: Jon The Bassist on December 14, 2010, 11:35 AM
DS - I'd be interested to read your contribution on topics like this. The 'polishers' seem to have a bigger say than the 'riders' on many things, so good to have your perspectives.
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: Jt on December 14, 2010, 01:17 PM
more bollocks.

no one has any more say than anyone else, everyone just has a say.

some choose to say it and some dont.

my only point in all of this is i didnt see the point in starting a thread about someone seeling bmx parts entitled 'a prick'

it just starts another biaggio is a massive shuffle munsterer slag fest.

all opinions valid etc, and joe makes some great points. I dont necessarily agree with all of it, but the underlying issues mentioned are up there.

i'm not defending him or anyone etc..were all just sailihng our own ships.

some shit just doesnt need saying, especially as its been said a million billion times before, and on this particulart subject, there are almost as many bandwagonners as the hobby/sport itself ( depending on where you sit)

i dont know the bloke, have never had a bad experience with him, i think he's expensive, but so fooking what.

i'm not really in a position to call the man a prick.

he needs product and he does whateever he needs to do to get it.

id say that makes him a shrewd and resourceful business man.
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: trasher on December 14, 2010, 01:33 PM
DS - I'd be interested to read your contribution on topics like this. The 'polishers' seem to have a bigger say than the 'riders' on many things, so good to have your perspectives.


Is that a dig at the majority Of this site  :-\
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: Jon The Bassist on December 14, 2010, 01:41 PM
DS - I'd be interested to read your contribution on topics like this. The 'polishers' seem to have a bigger say than the 'riders' on many things, so good to have your perspectives.


Is that a dig at the majority Of this site  :-\

No just an observation not a dig, I'm not far too transparent for that.  The restoring thing is new to me and it's something that I'm gaining some appreciation for. And there seem to be plenty of people that do both  :)
Title: Re: A prick
Post by: griff on December 14, 2010, 01:58 PM


one thing I wondered - as we all get older and people who remember 80s bikes first time round aren't into it anymore, do you think the market will peak at some point?
ie will today's mid & new school become the new 'old school', cos that's what kids today will have fond memories of?




no...


most of the "so called" bmx'ers on here only want have an interest in bmx inorder to reminisce,

they dumped bmx back in the day when it went out of fashion and completely forgot about it for 15-20 years,

theyre just collectors,

collecting stuff,

No real love for bmx,

no interest in the mid school,

no interest in the new school,

just looking back with rose tinted glasses trying to satiate their childhood desires by building the bikes they wanted back then,


looking from up here on the bandwagon that sounds pretty much like my profile DS  ;D
I'm reminiscing like mad building the haro I never thought I'd have
(I do intend to ride it a bit though, even if I do look like a bit of a paedo at my age riding a kid's bike)
from what I remember bmx was never really that fashionable back then either - but I LOVED riding my bike in all weathers even if I did stop aged about 16 - mainly due to the urge to drink beer and chase girls (and bit later on cars took over)
still regret not keeping my old bike as my brother never looked after it, but tbh I was never really that good anyway - one of my mates from way back who was, carried on and ended up running a shop in brum - I have nothing but admiration for his dedication and bottle, but I followed a different path...

I like watching the (mental) stuff you see nowadays done on more modern bikes, can appreciate the skills and tech but as it's not what I grew up with I don't have quite the same emotional connection to it that's all.

maybe one day I'll run into you at a rad meeting and you can teach an old wobbler a new trick  :daumenhoch:

cheers

griff
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: BmxAssasin on December 14, 2010, 02:14 PM
who is this BIAGIO man? is he a member on here or something? or is he a collector whos ripped someone off?
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: Jon The Bassist on December 14, 2010, 02:46 PM
He runs Vert-Ego website and makes his money selling OS BMX parts. His pricing often leads to fairly strong opinions. I don't know the bloke personally and have only ever bought 1 small item which was priced at the going rate and arrived okay.
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: waza04 on December 14, 2010, 06:46 PM
it just starts another biaggio is a massive shuffle munsterer slag fest.  ;D

i take it this sentance had a few swear words in it!  ::)
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: PHIPPSIO on December 14, 2010, 07:12 PM
Yaaaaaaaaaawwnnnnn.....   :)
Title: Re: A Rotter
Post by: harris on December 14, 2010, 07:23 PM
mid schools where its at lads sorry.biaggio does not exist  .
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