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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: back to the burner on December 20, 2010, 09:10 PM
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hi guys, i had to start a post for a number of reasons. as a kid i was mad on bmx's like all of us. so now im in the position to get some of the things i wanted, i decided to build a skyway street beat after coming across one very cheap a couple of years back. had to delay the rebuild yada yada yada.... But now im on it like a ton of bricks. In my quest to get what i need i went to a bike shop near me that has a pretty damn good rep when it comes to old school and NOS products. I went in for advice and to buy some stuff for my skyway. only to get blown away by the guys attitude when i started to ask about cranks and bearing ect, his reply "why do people still want these old pieces of s**t".
I was quite amazed by this as he has made his name and rep on old bikes yet shows them or the guys into them no respect whatsoever.
he was selling stuff left right and center not long back and is still doing a little now, but i was wondering if this seems to be the trend with other retailers and if so is it going to put a cloud over old school in the long term?
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Old School is well and truly Dead - Crappy old pieces of 80's Junk :4_17_5:
Post the shop Owners address I want to send him some flowers and a box of after eights. :coolsmiley:
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Is his name Alan?
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sounds like the poisened ginger Spen to me....
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Is his name Stodgy?
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fook him, who ever he is, if you need stuff for your builds you can find it on here or bmxrewind or any other of the OS forums :daumenhoch:
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seems to me he's getting more interest in his old schoolstock rather than his nu skool stock :LolLolLolLol:
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let's have the name of the shop please my good man :daumenhoch:
if he hates the stuff so much maybe he will let it go for a decent price!
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Has Radman opened a shop?
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Not seen a "Is Old school dieing " thread for a while :LolLolLolLol:
But there's always one comes along ::)
Comments like that could well be from Alans , as he he doesn't have much left apart from chainrings and the like
( I think Snav bought him out :LolLolLolLol: )
, much of the stuff Alans would be able to get hold of,, if at all,, would be only be through Shiner's stock ::)
Obviously every bike shop wants you to buy New school stuff , it's the only thing they can readily get and make a profit on .
Obviously there are still parts to be found in some shops yet to be discovered , but not enough for someone to set up a shop or dedicate a business to
Biagio has the stock , contacts and monopoly for the full time business
Shiner still have stock , but release in a controlled manner , which is good for the hobby's growth
If they set up a site selling there remaining stock ,I'd expect it would all be sold within 12 months
Old school isn't dieing , ending , ebbing or waning .
As said many many many times before , people simply come and go always a buyer for every seller who's selling up :)
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hahaha, some were bang on the money there lol. I dont dispute that NOS is getting thin on the ground but what he fails to realise is that giving 5 mins of your time to somebody who obviously has an interest in bmx's aint gonna hurt when it comes to repeat custom. Yes he may only have chain rings left lol, but i was also eyeing up one of his new shitters for the purpose of chucking round a forest with the kids. But i'd rather give my money to the pie shop round the corner now!
I dont for 1 min think that old school is dead or ever will be, as with cars the classics always exist and are always in demand. but due to his epically shite attitude he not only lost out on selling me a chain ring and some inner tubes :laugh:, i turned and walked away from a £300+ new skool pretend bmx and vowed never to enter the pie eaters emporium again.
oh and yes it was alans.
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hahaha, some were bang on the money there lol. I dont dispute that NOS is getting thin on the ground but what he fails to realise is that giving 5 mins of your time to somebody who obviously has an interest in bmx's aint gonna hurt when it comes to repeat custom. Yes he may only have chain rings left lol, but i was also eyeing up one of his new shitters for the purpose of chucking round a forest with the kids. But i'd rather give my money to the pie shop round the corner now!
I dont for 1 min think that old school is dead or ever will be, as with cars the classics always exist and are always in demand. but due to his epically shite attitude he not only lost out on selling me a chain ring and some inner tubes :laugh:, i turned and walked away from a £300+ new skool pretend bmx and vowed never to enter the pie eaters emporium again.
oh and yes it was alans.
alan gave me a free inner tube with my box of stuff for my old frame, although it was repro stuff :)
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Not really on topic but just reminded me about something I wanted to put out there to try and get your heads around :coolsmiley:
We've got vintage, old school, mid, and new right? But when new (as we know it) becomes older, what do you reckon it will be called? And what will the new 'new' be called?
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new gen1 ???
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Not really on topic but just reminded me about something I wanted to put out there to try and get your heads around :coolsmiley:
We've got vintage, old school, mid, and new right? But when new (as we know it) becomes older, what do you reckon it will be called? And what will the new 'new' be called?
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Well the ,then New will be called new :D ;)
and our current new ,,,when it gets old , I'd expect to be called 'Noughties bike/builds'
like vintage is also 70's,, old also is 80's, mid is also 90's ,
so eventually in another ten years, 80's stuff may move into the vintage category and so on mid move into old etc
:)
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It's weird because Alan was bang into the old Skool thing and not that long ago.
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£££££££££££££££££££ ::)
Intrested for a reason , being one of the first in this country to generate intrest
He is a business man after all :)
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I think his actual first real love is "twin shock MX " :smitten: :smitten: :-\
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It must be an extra hassle if you're a shop owner. I would imagine all your new school stock comes with a rrp so it's easy enough to price it all up and get it shifted. When you're dealing with second hand and collectible stuff you need to be on the ball to price it right or you'll get robbed or stuck with a load of gear.
Does Old Skool stuff suit the likes of RADBMX for sale forum and Ebay more than a full time shop?
Having said all that, i'm just an observer on the old skool scene anyway. I've got a survivor in the garage and spend more than enough keeping my nu skool rides running.
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Has old school had its day?
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hahaha, some were bang on the money there lol. I dont dispute that NOS is getting thin on the ground but what he fails to realise is that giving 5 mins of your time to somebody who obviously has an interest in bmx's aint gonna hurt when it comes to repeat custom. Yes he may only have chain rings left lol, but i was also eyeing up one of his new shitters for the purpose of chucking round a forest with the kids. But i'd rather give my money to the pie shop round the corner now!
I dont for 1 min think that old school is dead or ever will be, as with cars the classics always exist and are always in demand. but due to his epically shite attitude he not only lost out on selling me a chain ring and some inner tubes :laugh:, i turned and walked away from a £300+ new skool pretend bmx and vowed never to enter the pie eaters emporium again.
oh and yes it was alans.
the sooner idiots like this lose interest the better for everyone in the o/s scene.
too jealous,too old,too shit to ride syndrome here methinks :LolLolLolLol:
the o\s wont die, theres a good loyal following of folk who actually give a shit about it,
there'll always be the hangers on and lightweights like this bufoon,
we see them come....
we see them go...... :daumenhoch:
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too jealous,too old,too shit to ride syndrome here methinks :LolLolLolLol:
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I wouldnt listen to a word a 'shop keeper' has to say.
Since the late 80's the average 'shop keepr/bike seller' has hated BMX. So many of them are old has been roadies and they love to hate BMX.
I went to the bike show at Earls Court and there was a stand there with loads of old bikes, road, touring and even a prototype carbon Lotus track bike like Chris Boardman's. I was poking around looking at the gear and these two old blokes came over and started to chat, do you like the bikes, do you collect bikes etc etc. When the word BMX came out of my mouth, when I told them I collected OS BMX's, and I asked if they had any BMX bikes from the 70'sor 80's in their museum it was like 'get awf moy laaaaand' ;D I kept them there and made them listen, dont know why though.
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If it is Alan (anyone for that matter), they have a right to their opinion, as do we all. :daumenhoch:
I'd rather listen and absorb to what they have to say, whether negative or positive because of them living through the height of the interest during the late 70's and 80's to providing a service for present day customers.
For me oldschool, midschool and newschool are simply terms associated to my lifetime, but as a whole oldschool are collectables until they become Antiques.
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hahaha, some were bang on the money there lol. I dont dispute that NOS is getting thin on the ground but what he fails to realise is that giving 5 mins of your time to somebody who obviously has an interest in bmx's aint gonna hurt when it comes to repeat custom. Yes he may only have chain rings left lol, but i was also eyeing up one of his new shitters for the purpose of chucking round a forest with the kids. But i'd rather give my money to the pie shop round the corner now!
I dont for 1 min think that old school is dead or ever will be, as with cars the classics always exist and are always in demand. but due to his epically shite attitude he not only lost out on selling me a chain ring and some inner tubes :laugh:, i turned and walked away from a £300+ new skool pretend bmx and vowed never to enter the pie eaters emporium again.
oh and yes it was alans.
If you're looking at a new school purchase speak to dave at the RADBMX Shop , he'll help you out ;)
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I wouldnt listen to a word a 'shop keeper' has to say.
Dead right, nobheads all of em
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So many years we've tried />to keep our love alive
Baby it's over over (over...fade out)
....aarrgh :D :LolLolLolLol:
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If it was Alan woods he organised the first old school meeting in warrington in about 2001 and raced on a Robinson. He was interested because he had a load of old school stuff to flog and was drumming up interest. Alan is a business man and to be fair old school bikes are sh1te to ride but if you want to build one up to reminisce thats pretty cool I reckon.
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Wouldn't take a shop owner's view on Old BMX as gospel or anyone elses for that matter-BMX is mine,It's personal and I like what I like not what someone or the scene dictates.
Most of the Dealers that sold 80's BMX stuff probably got cleaned out years ago for peanuts and live in constant pain when they look at OS on ebay or see OS ticking along nicely without them running the show :crazy2:
Not instigating violence but I think it would be a good idea to petrol bomb his shop to teach him a little lesson and put the miserable fook out of his old school misery :LolLolLolLol:
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I wouldnt listen to a word a 'shop keeper' has to say.
Dead right, nobheads all of em
Aye, some have more to offer than others though
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I wouldnt listen to a word a 'shop keeper' has to say.
Dead right, nobheads all of em
Suppose so.....but there's one special one who has a really nice bum ;)
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I wouldnt listen to a word a 'shop keeper' has to say.
Dead right, nobheads all of em
Suppose so.....but there's one special one who has a really nice bum ;)
are you talking about alan?
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Wouldn't take a shop owner's view on Old BMX as gospel or anyone elses for that matter-BMX is mine,It's personal and I like what I like not what someone or the scene dictates.
Most of the Dealers that sold 80's BMX stuff probably got cleaned out years ago for peanuts and live in constant pain when they look at OS on ebay or see OS ticking along nicely without them running the show :crazy2:
Not instigating violence but I think it would be a good idea to petrol bomb his shop to teach him a little lesson and put the miserable fook out of his old school misery :LolLolLolLol:
Your posts always make me smile Jase ;D
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How can old school bmx be dead if we are all on this site talking old school??? as any interest/hobby it has its peeks and troughs. as for the coments about Alans..... yes first and foremost hes a business man who has obviously done very well for him self out of BMX. but before you have a go at the bloke just stop and think for a minute. hes been in bmx from the start. at 16 years of age he had his shop in Hindley and he lived breathed and slept bmx in the early days. and hes never had a "break" from the scean like most of us have on here. Every day in his shop for the past 30 years hes herd tale after tale after tale about bmx . im sure day one week one of any job is good but imagine doing the same thing for 30 years and hearing the same old same old of a bunch of people who dont actually know you but all think they do... so no wonder he has days were he cant be arsed. and before someone says "well get out of bmx then" it makes him shit loads of money and always has . he didnt jump on the band wagon he fookin started it and is the driver.... and heres a thought just to finnish on. how many people on here have now or had bitd a bike built up from Alans ? or more to the point built up by his Father Arthur who could always be found in the shop building up frame sets , building wheels etc.
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I wouldnt listen to a word a 'shop keeper' has to say.
Dead right, nobheads all of em
Suppose so.....but there's one special one who has a really nice bum ;)
are you talking about alan?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a253/the1carper/Digg.jpg)
The love monkey in the middle.....with a very shinny helmet
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How can old school bmx be dead if we are all on this site talking old school??? as any interest/hobby it has its peeks and troughs. as for the coments about Alans..... yes first and foremost hes a business man who has obviously done very well for him self out of BMX. but before you have a go at the bloke just stop and think for a minute. hes been in bmx from the start. at 16 years of age he had his shop in Hindley and he lived breathed and slept bmx in the early days. and hes never had a "break" from the scean like most of us have on here. Every day in his shop for the past 30 years hes herd tale after tale after tale about bmx . im sure day one week one of any job is good but imagine doing the same thing for 30 years and hearing the same old same old of a bunch of people who dont actually know you but all think they do... so no wonder he has days were he cant be arsed. and before someone says "well get out of bmx then" it makes him shit loads of money and always has . he didnt jump on the band wagon he fookin started it and is the driver.... and heres a thought just to finnish on. how many people on here have now or had bitd a bike built up from Alans ? or more to the point built up by his Father Arthur who could always be found in the shop building up frame sets , building wheels etc.
fair comment mr baldie, personally I can't fault him
1) he didn't rip me off like a certain other purveyor of OS bits (won't say who in case another thread starts) in fact he was the cheapest I could find
2) he packed the stuff well and sent it fast
3) he gave me a free inner tube :daumenhoch:
obviously I can't speak for anyone else but I would def go back there in future if he had any bits that I needed
had good service from mr porkchop too and JT at DP, although the elina saddle should maybe have come with a warning "this saddle/seatpost combo will really hack off half of the people on radbmx.." ;D
for me OS has just started really (before it was just bmx) my first impressions of this scene are great - lots of genuinely friendly and helpful people have made it a pleasure to get back into it.
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:) I wasn`t trying to slate Alan (if the aforementioned shopkeeper is him),merely asking a question.No surprise if it was as he has been a bit funny with me when I have asked about OS bits.As for the original question-no way has OS had its day.With BMX being huge in the 80s,more older guys will stumble across bikes/bits through E-bay,RAD or some other site.
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Wouldn't take a shop owner's view on Old BMX as gospel or anyone elses for that matter-BMX is mine,It's personal and I like what I like not what someone or the scene dictates.
Most of the Dealers that sold 80's BMX stuff probably got cleaned out years ago for peanuts and live in constant pain when they look at OS on ebay or see OS ticking along nicely without them running the show :crazy2:
Not instigating violence but I think it would be a good idea to petrol bomb his shop to teach him a little lesson and put the miserable fook out of his old school misery :LolLolLolLol:
Your posts always make me smile Jase ;D
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It was alan's that put me in touch with this site, didnt know it existed until then, so I owe them a big debt of gratitude for that :)
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alans does the best psychedelic bmx packaging
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v521/fischflo/monsters.jpg) :-\
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How can old school bmx be dead if we are all on this site talking old school??? as any interest/hobby it has its peeks and troughs. as for the coments about Alans..... yes first and foremost hes a business man who has obviously done very well for him self out of BMX. but before you have a go at the bloke just stop and think for a minute. hes been in bmx from the start. at 16 years of age he had his shop in Hindley and he lived breathed and slept bmx in the early days. and hes never had a "break" from the scean like most of us have on here. Every day in his shop for the past 30 years hes herd tale after tale after tale about bmx . im sure day one week one of any job is good but imagine doing the same thing for 30 years and hearing the same old same old of a bunch of people who dont actually know you but all think they do... so no wonder he has days were he cant be arsed. and before someone says "well get out of bmx then" it makes him shit loads of money and always has . he didnt jump on the band wagon he fookin started it and is the driver.... and heres a thought just to finnish on. how many people on here have now or had bitd a bike built up from Alans ? or more to the point built up by his Father Arthur who could always be found in the shop building up frame sets , building wheels etc.
apart from the 7 years he stopped and became a record shop
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It was an amazing record shop though and he still did bikes and boards . He now has a football shop lol.
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Not sure you should hold Alan to ransome just yet,ive only ever been three times over two years and have
never met him,but each time i went were several kids runnin the place!!so am sure when alan reads this thread he wont be happy :LolLolLolLol:
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Alan did very well out of oldschool back in the early noughties.100 % margin on old Shiner stock was very good business and good luck to him...
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We buy OS and are interested in OS because we like it...some people don't
One has to wonder why a shopkeeper who has made a small fortune from the OS scene suddenly decides he doesn't like OS any more....
The most likely explanation is that following getting a name for himself for OS parts all the 'best' parts have gone and with all the anonymous NS parts on the shelves gathering dust someone is getting desperately depressed...
The door opens and you stroll in, a punter with money hurrah, he licks his lips in anticipation of 'the deal', and then you ask him for something he hasn't got, just like most of the customers that day.
PS.. i t may seem like I'm putting down NS, I'm not....just trying to paint a picture of a desperate man in a silent shop trying to make a living, waking up in the morning after dreaming about making a fortune fooling everyone by welding coaster brake brackets on retro Haro freestyler frames and selling them off to oldschoolers as the real deal...
Reality for some is a bitter pill to swallow.
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wow i do seem to have stabbed the hornets nest with this lol. I do agree with many points on here regards his attitude and reasoning behind it but.... If a kid with a corsa came into my bodyshop and asked for a shite body kit to be fitted to his "crappy old" corsa and i just ruined him for being into that "scene" then its not right. Firstly i am going to push the customer away on that deal and then any future deals. he can then get on the corsa forum and slam me for my attitude. bottom line is that i dont like working on certain cars but the customer is god and what he says goes. i like to operate where a customer can have what they want even if it is to paint a car pink, BUT i will spend a small amount of time advising. Even if he doesnt have the job done, he will go away thinking that i am a good guy and that i will help him with any future projects or required jobs. this is why i saw my arse because i treat my customers how i would like to be treated.
As for being the king of old school, i know all that, he built a track up in my village when i was a kid and from there he spread his wings. that is why i was amazed as to his attitude regarding OS. Never bite the hand that feeds you!
some of the guys who own or work in the shops try to make out like its rocket science building bmx's, fine if a ltlle kid comes in he may think you are god, but if a guy in his 30's comes in and wants just a refresher and a little advice, dont try blowing smoke up my arse while trying to make me believe that the sun shines out of yours!
anyhoo. hope you guys have had a good xmas lol
si
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Alan helped me put my first bmx in over 10 years together this time 12months ago, built me some wheels up cheaply and brought a box of bits up from his stash for me too choose from, had a good chat with him aswell about his racing days. Thought he was a top bloke. :daumenhoch:
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I've just had very good service from Alans. I got some NS cruiser tyres and tubes for cheaper than anywhere else. One tyre was out of stock but I was advised of when it would be back in stock, when it would then be shipped, and also offered options of whether I wanted the order shipped in bits or all together when it was all in stock. I've also had very good advice over the phone in the past. Obviously everyone's had their own experiences, all equally valid but I've been very impressed. Probably the best service I've had from an online store. I know it's a real shop as well but I'm unlikely to vist in person so I count it as an online store.