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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: In2 bmx on January 20, 2011, 07:55 PM

Title: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: In2 bmx on January 20, 2011, 07:55 PM: Well The little thing arrived this week and is already in the good hands of SBD :daumenhoch:..
Here are a few photos of the condition she was in ..
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/091.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/095.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/092.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/096.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/098.jpg)
I also bought the seat from the same guy i bought the f+f Off , he threw in the original seat post and excaliber clamp that was on this bike in 78 .. :)

I dont really want to remove the JT decal as its been on for probably 30 years and the seat is in pretty good shape and dated 05 78 but not sure what make it is :-\.
Has anyone ever used a substance or coating to bring the seat back to life a little bit .. without removing the decal ? Or should i just leave it ?

And there is a nut at the end ( but i can't get a spanner in ) >:( that i thought would make it easy to remove the bars so i could bring them back to life :) how can i get the fcukers out ??? (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/78gear002.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/seat001.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/78gear005.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/78gear004.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/78gear006.jpg)

Carl :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: southern andy on January 20, 2011, 08:05 PM: Leave the seat in this stuff for 24hrs Carl

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_187273_langId_-1_categoryId_165594

Pretty much all the rust will be gone then. Mix 1 part with 9 parts water. Any stubborn stuff can be scraped off. :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: Rodgy1970 on January 20, 2011, 08:06 PM: great project

seat is possibly an elina
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: Darren Wood on January 20, 2011, 08:13 PM: AWESOME FIND CARL ........... Can"t wait to see the end result :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: In2 bmx on January 20, 2011, 08:20 PM: Quote from: Southern Andy on January 20, 2011, 08:05 PM
Leave the seat in this stuff for 24hrs Carl

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_187273_langId_-1_categoryId_165594

Pretty much all the rust will be gone then. Mix 1 part with 9 parts water. Any stubborn stuff can be scraped off. :daumenhoch:

Thanks Andy ill give it a go :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: monkian on January 20, 2011, 09:32 PM: Really looking forward to this build Carl :daumenhoch:
Interesting looking seat. Looks like it's got vintage track bike pedigree so probably good quality 8)
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: Dark Diggler on January 20, 2011, 09:42 PM: bin that tatty seat and stick a snake bend UL on it, PM Motomag Greg, he has loads :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: dordymush on January 20, 2011, 10:33 PM: armorall gloss is great at bringing seats up.
spray plenty on and let it soak into the seat.
i got a kashi aero that kept gonna like a white dust on it.seemed like it was dried out or something.
gave it a good soak of that and been spot on ever since.
makes ya tyres all nice and shiny black too :daumenhoch:.
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: Redline on January 20, 2011, 11:44 PM: Hey Carl..... pretty sure that seat is a very early Elina Saddle fella.... I have a NOS slightly later version with the same bolt set-up underneath though mine has holes drilled in the sides too and has the usual gold Elina lettering on the sides :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: mattfx81 on January 21, 2011, 01:05 AM: I know the robbos came as frame sets early on but could this be teh same seat on this bike, which is said to be an osaka- http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/robinson/36517/1
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: pickle on January 21, 2011, 08:04 AM: Quote from: Dark Diggler on January 20, 2011, 09:42 PM
bin that tatty seat and stick a snake bend UL on it, PM Motomag Greg, he has loads :daumenhoch:

:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: lovely little project that though :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: Mattdub on January 21, 2011, 08:31 AM: Do like that F+F Carl :daumenhoch: , great that you got the seat too ;)
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: MartyC on January 21, 2011, 01:50 PM: Quote from: rodgy on January 20, 2011, 08:06 PM
great project

seat is possibly an elina

Gets my vote, definitely looks that way but would need a better pic of the underside of the seat where the markings are.

This will be a great build, are you going for some Shimano 600ex cranks and 7c's or 7b's?
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: In2 bmx on January 21, 2011, 02:13 PM: Quote from: MartyC on January 21, 2011, 01:50 PM
Quote from: rodgy on January 20, 2011, 08:06 PM
great project

seat is possibly an elina

Gets my vote, definitely looks that way but would need a better pic of the underside of the seat where the markings are.

This will be a great build, are you going for some Shimano 600ex cranks and 7c's or 7b's?
::) I have a few parts :-X she doffo won't be having rat trap pedals that's for sure .. ill take a pic of the seat in day light :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: bobafett on January 21, 2011, 06:12 PM: Carl yer nutter - let me give you a buzz :smiley6600:
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: In2 bmx on January 21, 2011, 07:04 PM: Quote from: bobafett on January 21, 2011, 06:12 PM

Carl yer nutter - let me give you a buzz :smiley6600:

Thanks for the chat John ( about the seat ) , I was worried I was gonna get a verbal warning :-[ For having a mongoose :LolLolLolLol: Phew .
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: hunterdubber on January 21, 2011, 11:39 PM: :coolsmiley: :coolsmiley: :coolsmiley:

Glad it landed safely bud :daumenhoch:, now let the transformation begin

Is it an Expert Carl 17.5 tt , I'd expect they'd only probably do one or maybe two sizes at that time of production ???
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: In2 bmx on January 22, 2011, 11:57 AM: Took some Better photos of the seat.. lots of rubbing and loads of tin foil and vinegar last night . The Guts have come up really well .. :daumenhoch::)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/78gear004.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/ronby003.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/ronby002.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss250/in2signs/ronby004.jpg)
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: bobafett on January 22, 2011, 01:20 PM: There ya go ;)
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: In2 bmx on January 22, 2011, 01:30 PM: Quote from: bobafett on January 22, 2011, 01:20 PM

There ya go ;)

thanks mate :-*. I left the bars wrapped in soaked cotton over night . It's never gonna be perfect but I'm happy with the result . :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: Macmania on January 22, 2011, 01:47 PM: Great job Carlos :daumenhoch: Always nice to put some of the original bits back on :)
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: spyderpit13 on January 22, 2011, 02:25 PM: top project that 1 carlos, looking forward to the end product.... 8)
Title: Re: 78 Robinson has arrived .. seat help needed
Post by: BmxAssasin on January 22, 2011, 02:37 PM: thats a nice project , cant wait to see the photos of the end product 8)