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Title: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: theRuler on May 06, 2006, 08:57 PM
i'm sure i saw some on a mountain bike

can you get bolt on lugs? anyone tried them on a bmx?

i know you can get ad lug brake plates, but they are super heavy and they flex too much
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: Rombloke on May 06, 2006, 09:07 PM
graeme i reckon the amount of torque needed to keep these in place would crush a seat/chain stay....they would be under extreme sidewards forces.

but im no mechanic/scientist/frame builder, so dont listen to me!!!

Dave
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: theRuler on May 06, 2006, 09:39 PM
i am thinking bolt on lugs along with a plate between the bolts (on top) would be a winner
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: TwoBobRob on May 07, 2006, 08:05 PM
I ran an AD plate for ages with no real problemos....  whereabouts on the bike does it need to go? I solved my flex problems with a couple of jubilee clips  ;)

And on that note - that very same brake plate is currently for sale.  :)

Should you fancy it  :D
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: theRuler on May 07, 2006, 10:38 PM
i got a few of them
i am getting flex on one, but i am only using fat cable ties. i will try jub clips!
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: TwoBobRob on May 07, 2006, 11:44 PM
I will presume you have this plate on your forks?   The plate I have extends down below the lugs and has a couple of chunks machined out to guide and retain the aforementioned jubilee clips. Always worked nice for me.

Alternatively, why not have a pair of AD lugs brazed/welded onto your ride?  Not at all expensive and all your problems solved in one hit, job's a good 'un  ;)
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: jimwise68 on May 08, 2006, 12:07 AM
I ran a similar one that Rob is talking about, but it weighed about as much as my bike.

So swapped it for a smaller cromo one, with no jubilee clips. It has no flex at all and weighs feck all. Plus it was half the price of the original one.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: theRuler on May 08, 2006, 01:10 AM
I ran a similar one that Rob is talking about, but it weighed about as much as my bike.

So swapped it for a smaller cromo one, with no jubilee clips. It has no flex at all and weighs feck all. Plus it was half the price of the original one.  :daumenhoch:

thats another thing. they weigh too much

the one that i have flexing is on the back of a supergoose 3, that i didnt really want to weld lugs onto.
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: oberonspacefruit on May 08, 2006, 11:28 AM
real men weld.
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: theRuler on May 08, 2006, 11:30 AM
the one that i have flexing is on the back of a supergoose 3, that i didnt really want to weld lugs onto.

which makes me a biatch!
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: oberonspacefruit on May 08, 2006, 11:39 AM
what would fred dibner say.
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: theRuler on May 08, 2006, 11:41 AM
"help! i'm buried let me out!!"
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: TwoBobRob on May 08, 2006, 06:14 PM
Hang on....... the AD brake is flexing the plate's lugs apart?  Or the plate is flexing back and forth on its 6mm fixing bolt?  Bolting on lugs probably won't cure the first one - you'd still need a brace to stop that, and if its the second one, I assume the brake is on top of the seatstays? If its underneath you need to flip it over.

 :angrysoapbox:  AND ANOTHER THING............... :angrysoapbox:

Jimwise and you, Ruler, are hardly 6 stone weaklings - you're biatching about the weight of a brake plate? stop being such a pair of pussies. I'm amazed you even have the strength to pull the fooking brake lever if the weight of a brake plate concerns you.... JEEZ.....

No offence like...... ;D ;D ;D

Carry on....... :P
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: jimwise68 on May 08, 2006, 06:26 PM
Rob,

none taken mate.  :LolLolLolLol:

Glad you got that off your chest!
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: theRuler on May 08, 2006, 06:43 PM
i know you can get ad lug brake plates, but they are super heavy and they flex too much


Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: TwoBobRob on May 08, 2006, 09:36 PM
Hehehe......

Look.  You want a good brake. The flexing thing is pissing you off. Accept the weight penalty and fettle a plate and AD setup. It's got to be worth it surely?
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: theRuler on May 09, 2006, 10:35 AM
i have a plan.
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: OrgasmDonor on May 09, 2006, 12:49 PM
i use a hoffman plate on my se and dont have any probs and thats without jubilee clips, they only about Ł9 as well so worth a try i reckon
Title: Re: bolt on brake lugs
Post by: TwoBobRob on May 09, 2006, 07:15 PM
i have a plan.



Ooo.......  I like a plan  ;)
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