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Title: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: adenough on February 25, 2011, 12:32 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180629294802&ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: daz bmx it! on February 25, 2011, 12:42 PM
why? did you buy it? I asked a question and he told me several about it
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: adenough on February 25, 2011, 12:54 PM
daz, i sold it, didnt want much, but got offered  that much, had loads of interest in the first 3 hours, but im having problems with ebay and the chap that bought it!
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: beard1973 on February 25, 2011, 01:04 PM
Its a bit vague... did you not know what you were selling?
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: meticulous on February 25, 2011, 01:07 PM
is it 4 bikes in one?    ???
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: adenough on February 25, 2011, 01:13 PM
is it 4 bikes in one?    ???
Probably, i bought it from the states in good faith, when i got it , i was a little unhappy, so i thought id try the bay, it looks like a ripper, but im not so sure hence just stating that its an old bmx frame, the guy wants his money back, stating that ive been dishonest??
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: beard1973 on February 25, 2011, 01:21 PM
Looks like a Ripper to me ?!?

Would it not have been better to get clarification of the bikes ID on a site like this first...?

Under what premise is the guy requesting his money back?
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: adenough on February 25, 2011, 01:23 PM
HE SAYS IT NEEDS  repairing, which he cant do, seat post damaged and a reweld on the chain stay, which could br covered with a linisher in bout 5 mins
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: adenough on February 25, 2011, 01:24 PM
hes opened an ebay dispute , but i cant see how the ad is dishonest?
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: beard1973 on February 25, 2011, 01:32 PM
If you were aware of any problem it was in your best interest to state those in the advert.

Your image is not good and does show the bikes areas that as you state 'need attention'.

You may have felt you were covering your back with the 'needs attention' claim, but you've probably opnede yourself up at he same time.

You've been vague and its bit you on the ass...

Its always best to show and state all issues with any old item you sell.
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: Dex Dexter on February 25, 2011, 01:33 PM
I don't thin k it is dishonest but it is a rubbish ad.

I'm sure you know this already but you need to protect yourself.

Give as much detail as you can can, and then give more.  Be honest and then be double honest.

The argument will be over 'needs attention'.  What does that mean?  Cosmetic, mechanical or something else?

Could you build this bike up now without any effort or are the broken things that need fixing.

If you can't build this up and ride it then 'needs attention' probably wasn't enough.

Just give him his money back, sort it quickly, then re-list with more description.

Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: adenough on February 25, 2011, 01:34 PM
maybe vague, but not dishonest, ?
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: adenough on February 25, 2011, 01:37 PM
peeps have asked me about it on here, brummie for example, but i wouldnt sell it to him, cause its crap :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: beard1973 on February 25, 2011, 01:40 PM
How can you state on here it 'crap'... but state on eBay that it 'needs attention'...???

If it really is 'crap' then maybe you should used that word in your eBay advert and the winning bidder might have been a little less eager to purchase.

You might not like it, but in my opinion, you only have yourself and your poor advert to blame.
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: adenough on February 25, 2011, 01:44 PM
maybe, but i still bought it and imported from the states(off ebay) dordy popped round and i gave him the profile cranks and some forks, we had a giggle bout it, so i thought, well i bought it, so....., i think ill offer a partial refund.
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: ozone on February 25, 2011, 01:53 PM
How come you didn't fix it yourself?  Like you say, it's a 2 minute job for someone in the trade and that is your trade isn't it?   :-\

Would have fetched a decent price once sympathetically repaired I reckon...

The guy hasn't won the dispute yet - if you think you're in the right, you could stick to your guns and see what eBay do.  (they'll probably bend you over but it's worth a try anyway)   >:D
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: adenough on February 25, 2011, 01:55 PM
still in the trade mate but at a different place now, im operating the laser cutters and the press brakes, they dont do any ally welding, other wise id have kept it:)
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: trasher on February 25, 2011, 02:04 PM
i like this bit

BIDDERS WITH FEEDBACK OF LESS THAN 10 TRANSACTIONS, ARE WELCOME, HOWEVER, IF SUCCESFUL, WILL NEED TO PAY UP FRONT BEFORE ITEM BEING SENT :)
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: ozone on February 25, 2011, 02:05 PM
still in the trade mate but at a different place now, im operating the laser cutters and the press brakes, they dont do any ally welding, other wise id have kept it:)

 :daumenhoch:  Fight the power.   :Great_Britain:
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: ron burgundy on February 25, 2011, 07:56 PM
Poor advert with poor photo. Why, what are you hiding?

or

Nice one, this seller hasn't a clue and I've just picked up a Ripper for £110.

Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: adenough on February 26, 2011, 12:51 AM
i suppose the lat :daumenhoch:ter, if i was buying something listed as 'needs attention' i think id enquire what exact attention is required??
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: Betty on February 28, 2011, 10:33 PM
Its popped back up on the bay...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OLD-SCHOOL-80S-SE-RACING-PK-RIPPER-LOOPTAIL-BMX-FRAME-/300531746988?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item45f91688ac#ht_500wt_1156

Better description and pics this time round...  ::)

Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: bobafett on February 28, 2011, 10:59 PM

Jesus Christ !  :shocked:


Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: griff on February 28, 2011, 11:16 PM
probably couldn't get away with covering that gap with a decal?  :angel:
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: Peter J on February 28, 2011, 11:22 PM
Bit of autosol and that will polish out  >:D
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: retrogeezer on February 28, 2011, 11:29 PM
there is someone on here that could put a new seat tube in that with his eyes shut..
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: Peter J on February 28, 2011, 11:32 PM
there is someone on here that could put a new seat tube in that with his eyes shut..

Don't think its just the post...or the rear drop outs..... :-\

Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: Betty on March 01, 2011, 12:07 AM
I think that's the guy that bought it Mark 

 :daumenhoch:

At least it can now be seen in its full non glory...  ;)


Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: rick1970 on March 01, 2011, 01:00 AM
Must have took some nerve listing that ,needs some attention my ARSE  >:(
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: adenough on March 01, 2011, 01:19 AM
Must have took some nerve listing that ,needs some attention my ARSE  >:(
an amicable solution has been arranged for both parties involved.
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: rick1970 on March 01, 2011, 01:25 AM
Good lad  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: retrogeezer on March 01, 2011, 08:27 AM
there is someone on here that could put a new seat tube in that with his eyes shut..

Don't think its just the post...or the rear drop outs..... :-\



 :LolLolLolLol:

I guess from reading back through the posts it's not a real Ripper and therefore just scrap metal.
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: ozone on March 01, 2011, 08:53 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/00/Virginia_Sample_DDNR.jpg/510px-)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqYOKiQE1(hTOBvzBNbBY-ht2!~~_12.JPG)

Sometimes it's more humane to put things out of their misery.   :crazy2:
Title: Re: IS THIS ADVERT MISLEADING?
Post by: adenough on March 01, 2011, 12:33 PM
i dunno, not that difficult to replace a seat tube in the right enviroment.
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