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Title: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: hunterdubber on March 03, 2011, 09:36 PM
Don't ever do resto topics , although I do love reading them ,and I've been constantly doing  resto on so many bikes and parts in the last five years ,, just never get the inclination to post up .
So because I'm doing a couple of cool low budget builds, I thought I'd post a couple of pics no resto really just the frame re done and a pile of NOS non brand parts
and many Landar parts  as these were distributed from  Birmingham too where the Piranha frames were made , I think these were stock on the Piranhas in store

I was gonna do it survivor at first but ended up doing a show quality build as I've not seen one done , many a resto but not one built with ALL new parts, barr the frame even the forks and bars are NOS  ;)

It was hard  work turning down DC 890s for copies and Oakley 3's for Fuan's as there wasn't a huge difference in price ,,but it wouldn't have been right putting big name parts on this build


I was initially going to do only  one of a choice of 3 low end bikes this year I'd chose , a Piranha , MK1 Tuff Burner or a Chrome Team Murray

but I got 2 in the same week  :D,, so one is going to go and it may be this so I don't know whether to build keep a bit then sell complete or split now  :-\

Here's the kit ,,it's a PROPER cool street bike ,,I'd like to use it on a Radchester type day out  :coolsmiley:


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/P1131370.jpg)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/P1131371.jpg)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/P1131372.jpg)



(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/P1181369.jpg)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/P1181374.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/P1181379.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/P1181377.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/P1181366.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/P1181370.jpg)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/u24/hunterdubber/P1181368.jpg)






Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: brummie on March 03, 2011, 09:44 PM
well i like it  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: hunterdubber on March 03, 2011, 09:47 PM
well i like it  :4_17_5:

Well thankyou Dave  ;)

and see  :yahoo_silent:

,,,,,,not a Hutch stem on it either  :D
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: GTnumber1 on March 03, 2011, 09:49 PM
liking that chris  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: Dark Diggler on March 03, 2011, 09:55 PM
well i like it  :4_17_5:
,,,,,not a Hutch stem on it either  :D

Bet it'll have aerospeeds though  :LolLolLolLol:

Very nice my love  ;)
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: James Nada on March 03, 2011, 09:59 PM
Looking good Christian  :daumenhoch: I do love a bit of low-end British BMX!

Where's you NOS Landar "Chip Maker" number plate?
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: Jaymz on March 03, 2011, 10:05 PM
Massive respect fella, and I know your pain when it comes down to having to turn down the good brands in favour of copies. I resto'd a 1985 Lew ways aero stinger [cannock based] and had to collect copies of everything, but you did better than me. I broke when it came to pedals, i really dont like cheap pedals, so i went with a pair of mks!! But everything else is copied parts of better brands even down the terrible Bernardi mags!!

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs905.snc4/71886_480188106941_668306941_6666350_2593365_n.jpg)
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: dordymush on March 03, 2011, 10:06 PM
cool build young christian  8).
about time there was a few of these bikes built.
im sick of seeing the same ole top make bikes all done the same.
i'd love one of these myself. i had a silver and blue one with the banana mags on it. weighed a ton but i loved it.
gotta get stuck in and get me puch done.
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: hunterdubber on March 03, 2011, 10:12 PM
Costa , you know when you did the Tensor , ,,,you think low end bike ,,yeah really low budget ,, but then it escalates  ,,doh :D  :-[




Diggler you know me too well ,, I'm gonna bin all these parts and start again ,,,,with Aerospeeds, ,Campy Skyway graphite Tuffs, Cook Bros stem  ;D



James ,, I had to keep it Landar-ed up  :daumenhoch: ,, but come on I still wanted the bike to look nice  :crazy2:

Chip maker plate  ::) ,, actually , Craig had one on his CW phase1  :shocked: , I might send him a pm   :D


Nice one Jaymz  :daumenhoch:


Dave , have you still not done that Puch ,yet ?

Pull your finger out ya lazy sod  ;D ;D ;D  :-*

You might be able to buy this in aweek or two ,, save you messin'  :angel:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: sweetbeats on March 03, 2011, 10:13 PM
NOS Lander Bits....you must be fookin minted you lad.
Canny build  8) Love the Hologram Decals as well  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: rick1970 on March 03, 2011, 10:16 PM
well done keep this original  :daumenhoch: one of my earliest memories of bmx this must be 1981/2 my mate had a white one that had cobra grips
remember the union jack sticker thats i think why it stays with me  :smitten: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: monkian on March 03, 2011, 10:17 PM
Great stuff man. Loving those decals :Great_Britain: 8) :daumenhoch:
I think it's probably more important to restore something unfamiliar than it is to add to the fleets of favorites :angel:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: hunterdubber on March 03, 2011, 10:19 PM
well done keep this original  :daumenhoch: one of my earliest memories of bmx this must be 1981/2 my mate had a white one that had cobra grips
remember the union jack sticker thats i think why it stays with me  :smitten: :daumenhoch:

Me and Cotty (thanks Cotty ,,for sourcing the frame ) were talking about these saying they used to have them for hireing at Southport  track /pier  BITD and they were Black and yellow with the Cobra grips ,,,thats why this Piranha  had to have Yellow Fuan Cobras  8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: Peter J on March 03, 2011, 10:25 PM
Loving the build so far  :daumenhoch:

Looks mint  :smitten:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: THIRSTYKIRSTY on March 03, 2011, 10:27 PM
looks brill chris

inspired me to be doin the same soon ,,,brill idea to havea good rider to pot about

see ya soon chris

russ
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: rick1970 on March 03, 2011, 10:29 PM
well done keep this original  :daumenhoch: one of my earliest memories of bmx this must be 1981/2 my mate had a white one that had cobra grips
remember the union jack sticker thats i think why it stays with me  :smitten: :daumenhoch:

Me and Cotty (thanks Cotty ,,for sourcing the frame ) were talking about these saying they used to have them for hireing at Southport  track /pier  BITD and they were Black and yellow with the Cobra grips ,,,thats why this Piranha  had to have Yellow Fuan Cobras  8) 8) 8) 8)
now im really pushin my mind back but if remember correctly im sure it had metal mag wheels but im not 100%  :-\
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: oldtired on March 03, 2011, 10:32 PM
like that a lot dubber :daumenhoch:   when you mentioned it at  at manc' was looking forward to seeing it , top color choice, stock  black and yellow always a classic  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: brettypeeps on March 03, 2011, 10:58 PM
Love it Chris great holographics decals :smitten:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: bof on March 03, 2011, 11:10 PM
You need to get out more mate . ;) ;D
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: rollin72 on March 03, 2011, 11:20 PM
looking good so far mate...it should be named "the black pudding of Blackburn" >:D

gimp mask is a must when you ride it :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: hunterdubber on March 03, 2011, 11:23 PM
well done keep this original  :daumenhoch: one of my earliest memories of bmx this must be 1981/2 my mate had a white one that had cobra grips
remember the union jack sticker thats i think why it stays with me  :smitten: :daumenhoch:

Me and Cotty (thanks Cotty ,,for sourcing the frame ) were talking about these saying they used to have them for hireing at Southport  track /pier  BITD and they were Black and yellow with the Cobra grips ,,,thats why this Piranha  had to have Yellow Fuan Cobras  8) 8) 8) 8)
now im really pushin my mind back but if remember correctly im sure it had metal mag wheels but im not 100%  :-\


Yeah Rick they did them with either the metal cast Banana mags or Aero Zytec mags with the sealed bearing hubs

 
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v260/oberonspacefruit/DSCF0150.jpg)


(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSFDL9M72ANHCW5s_OwBaAmIZ6OrXBXtIdblfr80s2P9830ew5H&t=1)


Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: Bob_Acid on March 03, 2011, 11:27 PM
Needs mags and a brick stem
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: aerostylie on March 03, 2011, 11:37 PM
Nice one christian :)

Happy to see those kind of parts on rides, dont always have to be high end kit.....you been buying those parts from a seller on ebay based in Cradley?

Think those decals are known as prismatic......same kinda design as applied to the black raleigh chopper from the late 70s.

Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: sweetbeats on March 03, 2011, 11:50 PM
Nice one christian :)

Happy to see those kind of parts on rides, dont always have to be high end kit.....you been buying those parts from a seller on ebay based in Cradley?

Think those decals are known as prismatic......same kinda design as applied to the black raleigh chopper from the late 70s.



Aye trust you to know about Black Choppers Paul  :shocked:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: hunterdubber on March 03, 2011, 11:52 PM
Black choppers from the late seventies ?   :shocked:

King Dong  ::)



(http://images.joke.co.uk/images/webshop/medium/63434.jpg)


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Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: sweetbeats on March 03, 2011, 11:53 PM
Black choppers from the late seventies ?   :shocked:

King Dong  ::)

My Hero  :-X
 :-*
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: Betty on March 03, 2011, 11:58 PM
Ace...  :4_17_5:

Get it raced...  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: aerostylie on March 04, 2011, 12:06 AM
 :2funny: you guys, its like fookin Carry On with you lot :)
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: bobafett on March 04, 2011, 12:12 AM

Liking this build so far Christian mate  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: Spen69 on March 04, 2011, 12:23 AM
Chris, that's fookin mint :daumenhoch:

Did Del do the decals as my brother bought a Piranah of BW a few weeks back and has a garage full of crap as well as good bits, so he'll b needing a set of decals soon :smitten:

Bring it to Blackpool next time bud and let's take it off the jump-box :2funny: :2funny: :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: mattfx81 on March 04, 2011, 06:42 AM
I had a white piranha in the early 90's looks like yours but didnt have a gusset and had aero zytec mags on it.

Matt
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: M5AT on March 04, 2011, 08:35 AM
Smart that mate, here's a few snaps of mine, stock bar the grips & chain.

Exactly the same as me first bike BITD.

Send us some snaps of that burner pal  :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk44/M5AT/StudioBMXs_8.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk44/M5AT/pirhana.jpg)
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: crazycraig on March 04, 2011, 08:47 AM
Dubber ! it looks shite without a marker plate
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: Mattdub on March 04, 2011, 11:01 AM

Nice work Chris ,  :LolLolLolLol: at diggler ref aerospeeds ( I was thinking the same ! ) .
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: Macmania on March 04, 2011, 12:26 PM
Looks great that Christian. Diggin the black frame with unpainted forks  8)
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: MartyC on March 04, 2011, 02:12 PM
I'm really liking that, good work on keeping it as per the spec  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: Jon The Bassist on March 04, 2011, 03:21 PM
Dubber, keeping it real with bikes people owned and rode BiTD  :daumenhoch:
I'd like to see Prismatic decals make a comeback.
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: xGoose on March 04, 2011, 03:29 PM
Nice one Chris! ;)

Those decals take me right back in time, I'm sure I used to have a load of those prism BMX ones bitd. ;)


Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: trasher on March 04, 2011, 06:07 PM
prismatic decals rock

nice one christian  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: NORTY40 on March 04, 2011, 08:44 PM
Liking that Mr Dubber  :daumenhoch:

Question is ........ have you enjoyed building this lower end/budget build as much as one of your 'bling' bikes  ???
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: 58 delray on March 04, 2011, 09:22 PM
well done keep this original  :daumenhoch: one of my earliest memories of bmx this must be 1981/2 my mate had a white one that had cobra grips
remember the union jack sticker thats i think why it stays with me  :smitten: :daumenhoch:

Me and Cotty (thanks Cotty ,,for sourcing the frame ) were talking about these saying they used to have them for hireing at Southport  track /pier  BITD and they were Black and yellow with the Cobra grips ,,,thats why this Piranha  had to have Yellow Fuan Cobras  8) 8) 8) 8)
now im really pushin my mind back but if remember correctly im sure it had metal mag wheels but im not 100%  :-\


Yeah Rick they did them with either the metal cast Banana mags or Aero Zytec mags with the sealed bearing hubs

 
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v260/oberonspacefruit/DSCF0150.jpg)


(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSFDL9M72ANHCW5s_OwBaAmIZ6OrXBXtIdblfr80s2P9830ew5H&t=1)



the first ones had thin 5 spoke ally mgss
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: hunterdubber on March 04, 2011, 09:31 PM
I forgot when replying Andy  :crazy2:

you and Bob are of course correct  the thin 5  spoked cast mags  ;)

You see them in the early Advert  and I think KDW kev's had em on his

I'll try and find a pic 
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: hunterdubber on March 04, 2011, 09:36 PM
I had a white piranha in the early 90's looks like yours but didnt have a gusset and had aero zytec mags on it.

Matt

If it had aero tubing it would have been the Piranha XL , Matt  :daumenhoch:


Probably a decent sized bike I expect at least 19 or more toptube

,, as I was surprised this standard Piranha frameset is Pro size 18.5  and not 17" ish as you'd expect  :)

Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: 58 delray on March 04, 2011, 09:38 PM
I forgot when replying Andy  :crazy2:

you and Bob are of course correct  the thin 5  spoked cast mags  ;)

You see them in the early Advert  and I think KDW kev's had em on his

I'll try and find a pic 
believe it or not these early thin spoke piranhas mags were swapped for coaster brake moto mags bitd so that people could get rid of the coaster, i know of at least 4 bikes/riders that did tise bitd.  the piranhas normaly gained steel rims for some reason
Title: Re: BLACK BEAST OF BRUM
Post by: dan-dare on March 04, 2011, 09:40 PM
I likes your nibbler dubby-doo.  :daumenhoch:
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