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Title: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 07, 2011, 11:58 AM
Hello all,


I had a Falcon Pro as a youngster which got nicked within 2 weeks of ownership  :'(.  I thought finding and restoring one might give me some closure!

Anyway after being on the look out for over a year, I just bought this one.

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Before/IMG_1830-Copy.jpg)

 ;D


Delighted by my acquisition but unfortunately, its the wrong wheels, seat and grips.  Mine were the white twisted Mags, white seat and white mushroom grips.

The decals are also suited to a blue bike and not a white one so I will need to get them custom made.  Mine may need silver shading where there is blue.  Can anyone make these up?

I'm looking for ideas on how/where to start my project!

I saw a post about PWS, is this a one stop shop for all my requirements?

The white twisted mags seem to be quite rare so I bought a donor bike off Gumtree so now have the right wheels and bought a new Salle Aeroyal seat in white?

The pads look knackered too and need to be in white but I can't remember what colour the words were on my origininal bike,perhaps silver or black?

Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: scott30 on May 07, 2011, 12:40 PM
Dels the man for decals mate give him a pm  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: brettypeeps on May 07, 2011, 12:47 PM
Firebird may be able to help with the pads when you know what colours you want :daumenhoch:

Super bike dan for powder coating

PM them to discuss your requirements :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: ozone on May 07, 2011, 03:21 PM
I like it the way it is.  Looks like a nice survivor to me.   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 07, 2011, 05:11 PM
I like it the way it is.  Looks like a nice survivor to me.   :daumenhoch:

I hear you and don't disagree. Haven't had it delivered yet so will have to make a call when I've had a chance to look it over.

@Others, thanks for the tips/contacts.
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 13, 2011, 04:21 PM
Well, I received the bike yesterday and ..............................

I was over the moon when I unpacked it!  It was in better nik than I thought, the drop outs were still perfect, unbelievable for a 25/26 year old bike!

Anyway there is surface rust throughout and it seems a powder coat is inevitable.

Watch this space for some before's and after's peeps.

Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: Jaymz on May 13, 2011, 05:48 PM
welcome aboard, nice score off ebay, Im after a freestyler at the moment and something like that is right up my street, look forward to seeing the resto
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 14, 2011, 01:31 PM
Thanks,

BEFORE

Took the opportunity to take some before's before stripping parts off:

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Before/IMG_1831.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Before/IMG_1830-Copy.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Before/IMG_1849-Copy.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Before/IMG_1853.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Before/IMG_1862.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Before/IMG_1895.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Before/IMG_1899.jpg)

Wasn't bad as it was from a distance but as you can see form the close ups, the surface rust was extensive.

I'm not a fan of the baby blue/lilac and so will not be reassembling as it is.

Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 14, 2011, 07:37 PM
MOCK UP

Here are some pics with of a mock using some of the parts I've already acquired (wheels, seat), excludes the cleaner pedals I've bought and chrome Dia Compe MX brake system and before powder coating, new silver decals and obviously new white pads.

Gave me some idea of what it's going to end up looking like and is very much a reminder of my childhood bike!

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Mock%20Up/IMG_1942.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Mock%20Up/IMG_1949.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Mock%20Up/IMG_1950.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Mock%20Up/IMG_1952.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Mock%20Up/IMG_1955.jpg)



Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 14, 2011, 07:40 PM
DISMANTLING

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Dismantle/IMG_1960.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Dismantle/IMG_1975.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Dismantle/IMG_1995.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Dismantle/IMG_1997.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Dismantle/IMG_2007.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Dismantle/IMG_2009.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Dismantle/IMG_2010.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Dismantle/IMG_2013.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Dismantle/IMG_2022.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Dismantle/IMG_2050.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Dismantle/IMG_2056.jpg)
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: Jaymz on May 14, 2011, 07:56 PM
none of your links work fella, copy and paste the ones that have IMG tags on wither end
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 14, 2011, 11:19 PM
Doh,

Now fixed    :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 22, 2011, 12:35 AM
Received decals from Del today, what can I say, the guy is a legend.  8)

Only just dropped frame off to SBD this morning and so won't be ready for a week or so but couldn't resist mocking the decals up on my other bike!:

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/IMG_2095.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/IMG_2089.jpg)

:daumenhoch:

Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: bobafett on May 22, 2011, 12:53 AM

Looks like you're having fun - good man  :coolsmiley:

And you ain't hanging about with the restoration either  ;D  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: RATTY on May 22, 2011, 07:13 AM
Looking good so far, cant wait to see your progress. I may have a couple of pads for that knocking about, Ill keep my eyes open when I finally get to unpack. :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: oldschoolrb on May 22, 2011, 07:25 AM
i  like these frames , nice little build you got going on there :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 23, 2011, 03:19 PM
Cheers guys, definitely enjoying myself and haring ahead as like you, I can't wait to see the end result!!

Progress update:

Bought 75L cement mixing 'bucket' one of those plastic one's yesterday, bought 8 x 2ltr thin bleach, cheap Asda brand at only 27p each!!

In went both wheels (took bearings and drive shaft out first) and looking noticeably improved this morning (were like grey teeth to start), might leave in for another day or two as recommended in other threads, rinse off and then WD40 to prevent deterioration from the moisture being sucked out by the bleach. Although, not being a scientist, I have no idea whether plastic molecules have any moisture in the first place?!  I'm gonna WD40 them anyway!! Will post some pics up soon.

Bought a whole bunch of stuff from 'Bankrupt bike parts' on the bay including old school tryres, BB, headset and crank etc. Gonna try and recycle originals where possible but much easier to whack in some NOS parts if they're close enough.

Gonna drop SBD a PM to see if he'd be kind enough to do some pics of the dip stripping / different stages of the process as far as the frame is concerned.

Still having no joy on my wanted thread for a 'curved' seat post as opposed to kinked?!
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: 1mancity2 on May 23, 2011, 03:29 PM
Would a snake post cut down to make a slight layback be the sort of thing your after?
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 23, 2011, 03:58 PM
Afraid not, I've got some example pics in my wanted thread:

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=126832.0 (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=126832.0)
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 25, 2011, 12:38 AM
Well, two days in the bleach and the result isn't bad but I was hoping for better.  Back in the bleach they went! Might have to see them out for the full 3 weeks some speak of on other threads?!

I might have to resign myself to the fact that they were probably never that white in the first place?!

Some snaps benchmarking them against my brand new Tuff II's.

BTW I managed to rub off the braking marks using some old oven cleaning compound I was suckered into buying by the misses several years ago, off one of these dodgy shopping channels! It's called Revive and I thinks it's basically very fine granuals of some sort. Using a non-scratch kitchen scourer and a bit of patience, I managed to get the marks out without any obvious signs of abrasion.

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Wheels/IMG_2096.jpg)

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Wheels/IMG_2109.jpg)

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Wheels/IMG_2106.jpg)

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Wheels/IMG_2104.jpg)

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Wheels/IMG_2108.jpg)

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Wheels/IMG_2102.jpg)

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Wheels/IMG_2103.jpg)

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Wheels/IMG_2114.jpg)

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Wheels/IMG_2111.jpg)

Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: 1mancity2 on May 25, 2011, 10:16 AM
They look good, :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 29, 2011, 10:23 PM
Well, SBD has done his magic and the frame is done!

Unfortunately I don't get it till tomorrow as I had a relative pick it up for me.

A few pics of the process.  Looks like he's been working hard  :daumenhoch:


Stripped.

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/005.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/002.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/003.jpg)

Acid cleaned, machine sanded and hand flatted, masked and hung

ready for powder
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/007.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/006.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/001.jpg)

No going back to survivor condition now!  :-\  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 31, 2011, 12:17 AM
Well, I knew the result was going to be good, but I wasn't prepared for BRAND NEW!!!  :shocked:

Thank you so much buddy! Top job by a top man!  :daumenhoch: :4_17_5:

You need someone you can trust with these things and I'm glad I decided not to do the lazy thing and go with my local powder coater, instead I did the somewhat mission of a trip and hand delivered the frame to SBD.  (Well you can't trust such a rare frame in the hands of a courier now can you?!)

Problem now is, making sure the other parts live up to the same standard!! Now that's going to be tough/impossible!  :-\

Not going to rush it now as the major works have been done, gonna take my time to do the re-assembly and will set aside at least a day for this.

I'll let the pics do the talking................. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/IMG_2172.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/IMG_2169.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/IMG_2140.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/IMG_2159.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/IMG_2167.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/IMG_2166.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/IMG_2165.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/IMG_2160.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/IMG_2158.jpg)
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(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/IMG_2156.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/IMG_2152.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/IMG_2150.jpg)
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(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Powder%20Coating/IMG_2142.jpg)
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 31, 2011, 12:26 AM
Oh and before someone has a go at the state of my wall and skirting board, shown up further by SBD's top work, I have a 7 year old monster who likes to whack his beyblade against it and another one year old who likes to throw food at it!!!  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on May 31, 2011, 09:52 AM
looking sweet there and now the fun starts - just don't let the monster touch it -  >:D :knuppel2:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 31, 2011, 11:58 AM
Re: Don't let monster touch it  :LolLolLolLol: Damn right!

First things first, I've seen quite a few different approaches to decal application, dry, wet etc.

I'm planning to go dry, perhaps apply some gentle heat with hairdryer to warm up frame, slap it on and allow the contraction to form a better fix?

Clean hands and clean hands again, mask out area with masking tape.

Is this right or would I be in trouble?!

Would I be able to apply with finger pressure alone or is credit card/squeegee a must to get air bubbles out?

I don't want to 'experiment' on the real thing so would rather a) do research first and b) have a go on another similar surface with a spare decal.
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: 1mancity2 on May 31, 2011, 12:58 PM
Read this then decide bud  :daumenhoch:

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=125497.0
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on May 31, 2011, 02:42 PM
Nice one, wet it is I reckon, I have little doubt that I'd Phuck it up if did it dry!!!
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on June 05, 2011, 08:25 PM
A little way to go, but here's where I'm at:

1) Chain to go on
2) Decals to go on (only tacked on in pics & excludes fork decals).  Have bought the squeegee, have the paper towels, have the spray bottle, have Johnson's baby shampoo, still looking for courage!!!  :-\
3) Layback to be swapped out with a Hutch style one, i.e. more right angle, when I can find one of that style
4) Firebird is on the case with the white pads with black lettering  :daumenhoch:
5) The Aeroyals are pretty close to the originals with the slits on the sides but I'm not so sure about the overall look of it TBH.  Might flog it and get one more original, will do for now.
6) Similarly brakes are MX1000 copies, look fine but not the originals, I have one set that came with the bike that can be restored but may look out for a full mint set.

The arms and crank wheel were in a bad way but cleaned up really well.  I'd bought a replacement one piece crank arm NOS but it was slightly tapered so just wouldn't have done!

Forgot to put the front and rear fleccies on but may leave them out anyway?!

Wheels left in bleach for nearly two weeks, not the best result as they're shown up by the frame, but as this is no show bike (more for personal admiration), they'll do fine.

So w'dya think?  :-\

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Build/IMG_2250.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Build/IMG_2241.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Build/IMG_2249.jpg)
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(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Build/IMG_2233.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Build/IMG_2244.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Build/IMG_2248.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Build/IMG_2254.jpg)
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: 1mancity2 on June 05, 2011, 08:31 PM
I have a set of formos mx1000 copies up for graps bud, check my bits and bods sale thread  :daumenhoch:

I agree with you on the seat as well, top job and great story so far bud  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on June 05, 2011, 08:51 PM
I have a set of formos mx1000 copies up for graps bud, check my bits and bods sale thread  :daumenhoch:

I agree with you on the seat as well, top job and great story so far bud  :daumenhoch:

Cheers, thanks 4 the offer but I'd be after minty original Falcon Pro brakes.  Already has the MX1000 copies albeit in silver.
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: Jaymz on June 05, 2011, 08:56 PM
looking nice so far fella, you must be really pleased with your progress. One thing though, please turn the seatguts round!!!! The bolt always goes behind the post!
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on June 05, 2011, 08:58 PM
looking nice so far fella, you must be really pleased with your progress. One thing though, please turn the seatguts round!!!! The bolt always goes behind the post!

Doh! knew they didnt look right!! Cheers for that  :-[

That's the beauty of this forum! Infinite knowledge!
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on June 05, 2011, 09:04 PM
Question:

Why do I have a 1-2cm gap when tightening up the forks? Do I need to whack in some spacers on the inside i.e. couple of thin nuts either side or are you meant to force the forks tighter in this way?
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on June 05, 2011, 09:06 PM
looking nice so far fella, you must be really pleased with your progress.

Yup, definitely falling in love and healing that wound from 25 years ago  :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

I remember waking up half an hour earlier for school, just so I could take it for a blast around the block.  I'd then be glued to it after school late into the evening  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: Jaymz on June 05, 2011, 09:14 PM
Question:

Why do I have a 1-2cm gap when tightening up the forks? Do I need to whack in some spacers on the inside i.e. couple of thin nuts either side or are you meant to force the forks tighter in this way?

I keep a selection of nuts of various thickness to go between the cone and the fork, a little amount of fork movement is fine, 1-2cm is too much
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on June 05, 2011, 09:20 PM
Question:

Why do I have a 1-2cm gap when tightening up the forks? Do I need to whack in some spacers on the inside i.e. couple of thin nuts either side or are you meant to force the forks tighter in this way?

I keep a selection of nuts of various thickness to go between the cone and the fork, a little amount of fork movement is fine, 1-2cm is too much

Gottcha, cheers
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: super mat on June 05, 2011, 10:57 PM
looking fantastic.great work.theres not enough falcons around imo.good luck with applying the decals.im sure they will look fine.the star x mags look fine to me.i had a set of raleigh mags in bleach for two weeks and they didnt come up as good as that.star x were the first set of mags i owned.i remember popping out the front bearings on a heavy landing back in 89.looking foward to seeing this complete :)
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on June 05, 2011, 11:16 PM
One thing though, please turn the seatguts round!!!! The bolt always goes behind the post!

Done, looking normal now!  :daumenhoch:

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Build/IMG_2265.jpg)
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on June 05, 2011, 11:23 PM
looking fantastic.great work.theres not enough falcons around imo.good luck with applying the decals.im sure they will look fine.the star x mags look fine to me.i had a set of raleigh mags in bleach for two weeks and they didnt come up as good as that.star x were the first set of mags i owned.i remember popping out the front bearings on a heavy landing back in 89.looking foward to seeing this complete :)

I think you're right, the wheels are a pretty good example considering age, I'm probably being too demanding of them as I also own a set of Brand New Tuff II's!
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on June 08, 2011, 12:32 AM
Read this then decide bud  :daumenhoch:

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=125497.0

Not sure what I was worried about  :LolLolLolLol:, following Monkian's instructions to the letter, they went on a treat! Thanks fella  :daumenhoch:

I would add that the squeegee and applying wet is critical, I can't see any other way, the decals are so sticky, doing them dry would mean you'd have to get them perfect first time or risk distorting them when trying to remove them.  It's quite a challenge to avoid tiny dust/fibre particles getting underneath so clean hands and work area are essential.

The squeegee ensures a bubble free one movement application.  At one point I thought about slapping them on dry but am glad I held fire and waited for the squeegee to arrive in the post.  Best £1.50 I've ever spent!

I think they've brought the bike to life  :smitten:
 

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/Build/IMG_8616.jpg)
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Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: 1mancity2 on June 08, 2011, 05:59 AM
Very nice bud, you getting a padset for her?  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: rick1970 on June 08, 2011, 06:51 AM
Mate this has been a cracking thread enjoyed every step the build looks fantastic and youve gone by the book well done  :daumenhoch: just pull the bars back a tad tho  ;)  again well done a true restoration  :smitten:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on June 08, 2011, 11:29 AM
Very nice bud, you getting a padset for her?  :daumenhoch:

Yup, sent the original set to Firebird for them to be made up in white with black lettering. Get the impression he's quite busy though, I'll be patient  :daumenhoch:

Don't think it looks too bad without but will get them done for sake of completeness.

Decided the brakes are alright in the end, even though they're not the original white Falcon Pro, the chrome contrasts nicely against the white frame.

Seat is also growing on me, now that I've fixed the guts the right way round so may not bother doing anything to that.

Seat post has to go though, doesn't work for me!  Will be getting the GT style one (more right angled curve) as per my wanted post.

Bang chain on tonight and she's nearly finished!

Big shout and credit to SBD and Del for their expertise. There's no way I'd have achieved this result without their help! Thanks again fella's  :daumenhoch:

I started out with a certain vision, but the end result has certainly surpassed my expectations.

Needless to say it will not be up for sale any time soon, if ever!
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on June 08, 2011, 11:32 AM
Mate this has been a cracking thread enjoyed every step the build looks fantastic and youve gone by the book well done  :daumenhoch: just pull the bars back a tad tho  ;)  again well done a true restoration  :smitten:

Cheers bud  :daumenhoch:

I will toy with the handle bar position again. I left it a little forward as I thought it gave it a nice aggresive look, too far back and it would look boring?! Will try and find a happy medium.
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: 1mancity2 on June 08, 2011, 11:44 AM
If your gonna ride it bars need to go way back, the seat maybe a kashi aero style in white would match better, the aeroyal looks a bit square, but saying that its a very nice resto, you can get some velcro cable clips for it to stop scratches  :daumenhoch: although when the padsets on your cable will be neat and tidy anyway  :daumenhoch:

So what you doing next?  ::)
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: 1mancity2 on June 08, 2011, 11:45 AM
Oh and you have inspired me to do a freestyler again  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on June 08, 2011, 12:46 PM
Hadn't thought beyond recreating my childhood ride TBH.

However, having had the most fun I've had in a long time, never say never!

I quite fancy the idea of adding a gold burner to my 'collection' sometime in the future.  I also have Peugeot (see museum section on here) which I actually had to buy as a donor bike just to get hold of the Star-X's used on the Falcon!  I've been sympathetic to it though and treated it with a new pair of Tuff II's as compensation!  I've grown to quite like that one too.

I used to look upon burner's as rich kids' bikes as I grew up pretty skint  :(!

Trouble will be the misses and finding space.  Don't want to stash bikes in the garage or loft as these can be nasty places for dust/spores/damp/humidity etc etc.  Perhaps I can kick her out?!  :daumenhoch:

She was surprisingly accommodating on this build as normally when I bring spanners, oil etc in to the house, I get more than an earfull.  Perhaps the tragic childhood story associated with the build allowed me to get off lightly  :shocked:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: 1mancity2 on June 08, 2011, 12:47 PM
Get her out  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on June 08, 2011, 02:37 PM
Very tempting  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on October 20, 2011, 12:07 AM
Well,

Took me a while as I've been busy at work.

Pads have arrived and gone on.

Chains gone on.

Handle bars nudged back a touch as suggested above.

Wheels could be whiter, a project for another day!

After much searching and patience, finally found the right shape layback (cost a fortune though as its NOS and Rickman branded!).  I think it needs to sink in deeper, there's a decal in the way which I need to strip off, although, have been hesitant in removing the brand name and devaluing it!

Apart from the need to tuck the rear brake cable inside the centre pad, I think she's finished?  8)

I'm well chuffed with the end result and it's been well worth it.  :daumenhoch:

(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/015.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/014.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/013.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/012.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/011-1.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/010-1.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/009-1.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/008-1.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/007-1.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/006-2.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/005-2.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/004-2.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/003-2.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/002-2.jpg)
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i450/abz2002/001-2.jpg)
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: dordymush on October 20, 2011, 12:16 AM
come out well that has mate.
i would'nt put the post down no more though. looks right there.
maybe tilt the seat down a touch at the front though to get it level.
nice build.
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on October 20, 2011, 12:20 AM
Thanks

Good call on the seat, did occur to me once but I then forgot!
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: brettypeeps on October 20, 2011, 12:37 AM
Now that is a sweet bike :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: rick1970 on October 20, 2011, 12:41 AM
Looks awsome mate glad youve got it how you wanted it  :daumenhoch:  now get out and ride her and let the fun begin  :daumenhoch:  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on October 20, 2011, 10:15 AM
Looking good there - well thought out and worked on - top job  :daumenhoch:





here a falcon i had some years ago - now sold on


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/dd252/BENDYCAT/SNC12163.jpg)

Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: ronster on October 20, 2011, 10:37 AM
Lovely build that dude... :daumenhoch:...heres mine I did last year, still got it in my collection too ;)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/oo185/ronniebrain/bmxmorestuff051.jpg)

Mines a bit more gay than yours tho :shocked: ;D
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: Peter J on October 20, 2011, 10:37 AM
Tidy  :daumenhoch:

Very nice resto

 :4_17_5:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: Discostu on October 20, 2011, 11:02 AM
Well done mate. I have enjoyed reading this resto thread. The bike looks great. I would reposition the brake levers though. They are sticking up a bit after you pulled the bars back.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: oldtired on October 20, 2011, 01:02 PM
 :4_17_5:  vnice
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: deeman on October 20, 2011, 06:30 PM
that looks absolutely lovely mate!A top restoration and big respect for bitd spec authenticity.It reminds me of my first freestyler,a DRAGON FREESTYLER in white,was very heavy though!how is the falcon weight wise?it doesnt look light!i was going to suggest a trik-top seat much like the one in ronsters pic.it would be very fitting with the bike,im sure they had something like that on originally'they are cheap on the bay.
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: superbikedan on October 20, 2011, 08:41 PM
awsome, proper resto :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: Deano on October 20, 2011, 08:56 PM
Just caught up on this thread and for your 1st resto this is as good as it gets in my opinion :daumenhoch:
Great read from start to finish and detail is spot on fella.

Everyone involved has also done a great job  ;)
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: deeman on October 20, 2011, 09:00 PM
forgot to say those mags look way better than my attempt to bleach some acorns!they just stayed beige!i had them in for 3 days and the plastic was getting soft so i gave up.yours look good though! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on October 20, 2011, 10:02 PM
Looking good there - well thought out and worked on - top job  :daumenhoch:





here a falcon i had some years ago - now sold on


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/dd252/BENDYCAT/SNC12163.jpg)



Love the Green version  :smitten:

Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on October 20, 2011, 10:07 PM
Just caught up on this thread and for your 1st resto this is as good as it gets in my opinion :daumenhoch:
Great read from start to finish and detail is spot on fella.

Everyone involved has also done a great job  ;)

Thanks all for your compliments  :)

Could use some advice, the cups and possibly bearings that pop into the wheels i.e. the axle is developing surface rust as is the freewheel.  What are the chances of getting hold of some NOS versions of those?

The freewheel seems unique to the wheel as it has slots (i think five of them) that slot into the ridges of the wheel?  :-\
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on October 20, 2011, 10:09 PM
forgot to say those mags look way better than my attempt to bleach some acorns!they just stayed beige!i had them in for 3 days and the plastic was getting soft so i gave up.yours look good though! :daumenhoch:

yeah they are in pretty good shape, I  had to buy a complete donor bike to get my hands on them, they seem to come up very rarely on the bay.  The last set that came up recently went for nearly as much as I paid for the entire donor bike!
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on October 20, 2011, 10:11 PM
awsome, proper resto :daumenhoch:

 ;D and you had nothing to do with it!  ;)
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on October 20, 2011, 10:15 PM
that looks absolutely lovely mate!A top restoration and big respect for bitd spec authenticity.It reminds me of my first freestyler,a DRAGON FREESTYLER in white,was very heavy though!how is the falcon weight wise?it doesnt look light!i was going to suggest a trik-top seat much like the one in ronsters pic.it would be very fitting with the bike,im sure they had something like that on originally'they are cheap on the bay.

you're absolutely right, it's not that light, it wasn't a top end bike bitd but it was the bike that I owned and so I was driven by sentiment more than anything else!

The seat as I remember it was the same style as the Aeroyal i.e. had the slits as this one but I think had BMX written in the sides and was less bulky and square.  Will keep and eye out for one.
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: superbikedan on October 20, 2011, 10:28 PM
awsome, proper resto :daumenhoch:

 ;D and you had nothing to do with it!  ;)

well i did and proud to be part of it ;)  but the awsome resto for me is all the attention to detail, it's the

wheels, brakes, pads  decals ect and the rebuild, that's the part i'm not involved in and always blown away

by the final build and the effort you guys make to get it as perfect as this child hood memory that drove

you,  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: deeman on October 20, 2011, 10:32 PM
that looks absolutely lovely mate!A top restoration and big respect for bitd spec authenticity.It reminds me of my first freestyler,a DRAGON FREESTYLER in white,was very heavy though!how is the falcon weight wise?it doesnt look light!i was going to suggest a trik-top seat much like the one in ronsters pic.it would be very fitting with the bike,im sure they had something like that on originally'they are cheap on the bay.

you're absolutely right, it's not that light, it wasn't a top end bike bitd but it was the bike that I owned and so I was driven by sentiment more than anything else!

The seat as I remember it was the same style as the Aeroyal i.e. had the slits as this one but I think had BMX written in the sides and was less bulky and square.  Will keep and eye out for one.
exactly the same as my bike mate,you cant put a price on memories!keep at it,youll find what you want eventually although i sometimes think its harder to find parts for a bike like yours! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: glenboy on October 20, 2011, 11:15 PM
 :daumenhoch: very nice , you've done it proud, nice framesets these with the twin downtube, luvin it large  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: Darren KAP on October 21, 2011, 12:28 AM
:daumenhoch: very nice , you've done it proud, nice framesets these with the twin downtube, luvin it large  :coolsmiley:

             +  1    :daumenhoch:    :4_17_5:
Title: Re: New user / new resto project - Falcon Pro
Post by: abz2002 on October 21, 2011, 12:46 AM
Lovely build that dude... :daumenhoch:...heres mine I did last year, still got it in my collection too ;)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/oo185/ronniebrain/bmxmorestuff051.jpg)

Mines a bit more gay than yours tho :shocked: ;D

Look like you've paid just as much attention to detail as I have if not more!  :daumenhoch:
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