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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: Why isnt this working on June 02, 2011, 09:41 PM
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No no no no .... Juan is fine, its just a fitting title for this paypal story.
Im sorry to do this and bore the sh*t out of peple again with another story about the "dangers" of send funds via paypal as a gift but I think its right I highlight this as proof of what a f*cking dissapointment it can be.
Sometime a few weeks back I was watching a pair of nos wheels Juan was selling on ebay that I was planning to bid on but did'nt due to being highly intoxicated and falling into a deep coma on my sofa :uglystupid2: Anyway I missed out and to make matters worse they went for stupidly cheep money, i was gutted. I thought i'd contact Juan and ask if he had anymore or some that were as good as nos and to my overwhelming joy he responded nearly imeadiately saying he did. I explained about my stupidity of falling into a drunken coma and how gutted i was as the price was so so cheep and his response was " Dont worry fella, i'll sell you these ones for exactly what the others went for ".......What a f*cking diamond :D
So he sends me his details and I go into paypal. I type in his address.. juanmattos@gmail.com then contact him to tell him its been sent, he responds " havnt recieved it dude, check the address " so I did. The address I should have sent it to was as follows
juanrmattos@gmail.com. Oh dear, ive missed the letter "r" in the middle of the address I better cancel it and resend. I check it out and there is no option so I ring paypal and explain that ive made a mistake and missed the letter "r" between juan and mattos. Ther response was that there NOTHING they can do as i'd sent it as a gift and that the only chance you have is to email the person you've sent it to in the hope they send it back :-\. I did this and suprise f*cking suprise there was NO response. So I ring my credit card supplier to explain and they cant do F*ck all either. I have explored all avenues with this and eventually it pushed me over the edge and I went f*cking banana's, which was stupid but I just could'nt help myself. I said " what if I'd send £10000...are you telling me you'd say the same thing you tit...do you think someone would just walk away from that, there response was " you'd have to call the police. I had to pay Juan again for these wheels as I really need them for something I'm going to start building after MK and I'm still really greatfull for him helping me out like he did but its left a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth to be honest.
Anyway , i hate these long drawn out posts and I'm truely sorry for putting it on here but just wanted to make you all aware that you should ALWAYS highlight the paypal address or better still dont send it as a "gift".
Appologies again..
Si :(
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juanker. :daumenhoch:
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thats a fookin joke.
never herd anything like it mate.
im stopping this gift thing totally.for the sake of an extra little bit its not worth the bother.
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juanker. :daumenhoch:
Nice pun Mr Dare :LolLolLolLol:
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thats a fookin joke.
never herd anything like it mate.
im stopping this gift thing totally.for the sake of an extra little bit its not worth the bother.
Tell me about it mate. Honestly, I just wanted to go f*cking mental down the phone as I just CANNOT beleive there is not anything they can do. They could'nt even legally look in his account to see if it was still there as I'd sent it as a gift :idiot2:
To say its frustrating is the biggest understatment in the world.....absolutly ridiculous.
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They should just dump the whole gift thing and then there would be no choice.
Sorry to hear your story mate :laugh: really hope something good comes out of it.
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thats a fookin joke.
never herd anything like it mate.
im stopping this gift thing totally.for the sake of an extra little bit its not worth the bother.
do you pay more for gift? the reason i ask everyone for gift payment on painting was it was costing
me a small fortune >:( sorry to hear that si and it's always a lesson learned ;)
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thats shocking mate >:( ive noticed recently when ive sent as gift im being charged a small sum is this now the norm ie insurance cover or am i being dicked like the rest of us :2gunsfiring_v1: :wtf:
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thats a fookin joke.
never herd anything like it mate.
im stopping this gift thing totally.for the sake of an extra little bit its not worth the bother.
do you pay more for gift? the reason i ask everyone for gift payment on painting was it was costing
me a small fortune >:( sorry to hear that si and it's always a lesson learned ;)
thats a fookin joke.
never herd anything like it mate.
im stopping this gift thing totally.for the sake of an extra little bit its not worth the bother.
do you pay more for gift? the reason i ask everyone for gift payment on painting was it was costing
me a small fortune >:( sorry to hear that si and it's always a lesson learned ;)
F*cking nightmare Dan...shocking. The whole "gift" thing is so the recipitant gets the full ammount and doesnt loose anymoney. So rather than you getting shafted for the paypal fee Dan the person who's bying your services does, if that makes sense :-\
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unless the money comes from your paypal balance or from a linked bank account you get charged for sending as gift.
so if its come from a registered debit or credit card you will get charged Rick
sorry to hear that Si. hope its get sorted somehow
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teet :tickedoff: :2gunsfiring_v1: :rant:
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thats shocking mate >:( ive noticed recently when ive sent as gift im being charged a small sum is this now the norm ie insurance cover or am i being dicked like the rest of us :2gunsfiring_v1: :wtf:
As I just explained to Dan its the norm. If you wanted Dan to paint one of your frames and he was charging £60 and you sent it as a gift he gets the whole £60 and you get charged the fee. So the seller gets the asking price in full without suffering the fee that in reality they should do for using the service to recive there money.
:daumenhoch:
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thats a fookin joke.
never herd anything like it mate.
im stopping this gift thing totally.for the sake of an extra little bit its not worth the bother.
do you pay more for gift? the reason i ask everyone for gift payment on painting was it was costing
me a small fortune >:( sorry to hear that si and it's always a lesson learned ;)
Superbikejuanker... :daumenhoch:
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unless the money comes from your paypal balance or from a linked bank account you get charged for sending as gift.
so if its come from a registered debit or credit card you will get charged Rick
sorry to hear that Si. hope its get sorted somehow
Thanks pal, but I'm possitive I wont.
Ahhh........am I wrong with what i've said then ???
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thats a fookin joke.
never herd anything like it mate.
im stopping this gift thing totally.for the sake of an extra little bit its not worth the bother.
do you pay more for gift? the reason i ask everyone for gift payment on painting was it was costing
me a small fortune >:( sorry to hear that si and it's always a lesson learned ;)
Superbikejuanker... :daumenhoch:
meaning?
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thats a fookin joke.
never herd anything like it mate.
im stopping this gift thing totally.for the sake of an extra little bit its not worth the bother.
do you pay more for gift? the reason i ask everyone for gift payment on painting was it was costing
me a small fortune >:( sorry to hear that si and it's always a lesson learned ;)
thats a fookin joke.
never herd anything like it mate.
im stopping this gift thing totally.for the sake of an extra little bit its not worth the bother.
do you pay more for gift? the reason i ask everyone for gift payment on painting was it was costing
me a small fortune >:( sorry to hear that si and it's always a lesson learned ;)
F*cking nightmare Dan...shocking. The whole "gift" thing is so the recipitant gets the full ammount and doesnt loose anymoney. So rather than you getting shafted for the paypal fee Dan the person who's bying your services does, if that makes sense :-\
never new that mate, i've sent gift payment for mk sponsership ect and even guys who have helped
me out on rad and i've never been charged :-\
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There is also a money owed option that is pretty much the same as gift and I use that option it is free for me to use and free the seller to receive. :daumenhoch:
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thats a fookin joke.
never herd anything like it mate.
im stopping this gift thing totally.for the sake of an extra little bit its not worth the bother.
do you pay more for gift? the reason i ask everyone for gift payment on painting was it was costing
me a small fortune >:( sorry to hear that si and it's always a lesson learned ;)
thats a fookin joke.
never herd anything like it mate.
im stopping this gift thing totally.for the sake of an extra little bit its not worth the bother.
do you pay more for gift? the reason i ask everyone for gift payment on painting was it was costing
me a small fortune >:( sorry to hear that si and it's always a lesson learned ;)
F*cking nightmare Dan...shocking. The whole "gift" thing is so the recipitant gets the full ammount and doesnt loose anymoney. So rather than you getting shafted for the paypal fee Dan the person who's bying your services does, if that makes sense :-\
never new that mate, i've sent gift payment for mk sponsership ect and even guys who have helped
me out on rad and i've never been charged :-\
I've got this slightly wrong Dan....check out kuwahero's comment above dude. :daumenhoch:
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There is also a money owed option that is pretty much the same as gift and I use that option it is free for me to use and free the seller to receive. :daumenhoch:
Ahh....ok. Do you know if what happened to me would happen aswel using that method or would you be able to get your money back ???
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Si, i have done exactley the same thing twice mate, just missed out 1 letter but i realised my mistake within about 5 minutes there was a button to cancel the transaction which i did. I then sent the money to the right address and got refunded the original one about 2 days later. Go into your Paypal accounmt and see if you can just click 'cancel transaction' or 'cancel payment' somewhere.
Adam
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There is also a money owed option that is pretty much the same as gift and I use that option it is free for me to use and free the seller to receive. :daumenhoch:
Ahh....ok. Do you know if what happened to me would happen aswel using that method or would you be able to get your money back ???
There is a cancel payment option that I have used but it puts the money into hold for 7 days. I am not sure if the money hit another paypal account or not, but it was from miss typed email addresses.
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unless the money comes from your paypal balance or from a linked bank account you get charged for sending as gift.
so if its come from a registered debit or credit card you will get charged Rick
sorry to hear that Si. hope its get sorted somehow
well that explains that si, i use both :daumenhoch:
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two things on reading this
if sending Personal & Gift - 1. make sure it is some one you can trust - 2. mark it with a code and don't put any info in the box, it might be used against you later when paypal stop the gift section, by claming that you are buying and selling but using the P&G method and then making you pay there cut for the transaction - hence pm'ing the info on a site
if the money was sent to account with 1 "r" missing the what are the chances of there being some one with a account in the same name ? would it not sit in a none used account and not be clamed ? - i have sent it to the wrong account and vise versa, you can cancel it ?
cheers B ???
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I always double check the paypal if its someone I have never dealt with, I know how this feels bud I paypal someone for the wrong amount and never got a responce, but a couple of weeks ago I checked my paypal and there was £657 in there that shouldn't be, the following morning I got a email from a guy of ebay that had bought a bmx part months ago and had sent it to me as a GIFT by mistake and asked me to refund him.... Now £657 would easily finish my builds and leave some cash for a slap up meal so what did I do?
I Kept the money his fault
I returned it and told him he was lucky he sent it to a honest bloke and guess what? he sent me £50 as a thank you :daumenhoch: which I gave to charity :smitten:
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I always double check the paypal if its someone I have never dealt with, I know how this feels bud I paypal someone for the wrong amount and never got a responce, but a couple of weeks ago I checked my paypal and there was £657 in there that shouldn't be, the following morning I got a email from a guy of ebay that had bought a bmx part months ago and had sent it to me as a GIFT by mistake and asked me to refund him.... Now £657 would easily finish my builds and leave some cash for a slap up meal so what did I do?
I Kept the money his fault
I returned it and told him he was lucky he sent it to a honest bloke and guess what? he sent me £50 as a thank you :daumenhoch: which I gave to charity :smitten:
dude :4_17_5:
reminds me of that bloke who bought a house and found 40K in the loft and gave it back the the original owners.... ::)
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No no no no .... Juan is fine, its just a fitting title for this paypal story.
Im sorry to do this and bore the sh*t out of peple again with another story about the "dangers" of send funds via paypal as a gift but I think its right I highlight this as proof of what a f*cking dissapointment it can be.
Sometime a few weeks back I was watching a pair of nos wheels Juan was selling on ebay that I was planning to bid on but did'nt due to being highly intoxicated and falling into a deep coma on my sofa :uglystupid2: Anyway I missed out and to make matters worse they went for stupidly cheep money, i was gutted. I thought i'd contact Juan and ask if he had anymore or some that were as good as nos and to my overwhelming joy he responded nearly imeadiately saying he did. I explained about my stupidity of falling into a drunken coma and how gutted i was as the price was so so cheep and his response was " Dont worry fella, i'll sell you these ones for exactly what the others went for ".......What a f*cking diamond :D
So he sends me his details and I go into paypal. I type in his address.. juanmattos@gmail.com then contact him to tell him its been sent, he responds " havnt recieved it dude, check the address " so I did. The address I should have sent it to was as follows
juanrmattos@gmail.com. Oh dear, ive missed the letter "r" in the middle of the address I better cancel it and resend. I check it out and there is no option so I ring paypal and explain that ive made a mistake and missed the letter "r" between juan and mattos. Ther response was that there NOTHING they can do as i'd sent it as a gift and that the only chance you have is to email the person you've sent it to in the hope they send it back :-\. I did this and suprise f*cking suprise there was NO response. So I ring my credit card supplier to explain and they cant do F*ck all either. I have explored all avenues with this and eventually it pushed me over the edge and I went f*cking banana's, which was stupid but I just could'nt help myself. I said " what if I'd send £10000...are you telling me you'd say the same thing you tit...do you think someone would just walk away from that, there response was " you'd have to call the police. I had to pay Juan again for these wheels as I really need them for something I'm going to start building after MK and I'm still really greatfull for him helping me out like he did but its left a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth to be honest.
Anyway , i hate these long drawn out posts and I'm truely sorry for putting it on here but just wanted to make you all aware that you should ALWAYS highlight the paypal address or better still dont send it as a "gift".
Appologies again..
Si :(
Sorry to hear the original thread, ..
must admit i had to re-read the email address to spot the mistake,
PP response is bull***t, all the money they make surely they could help you.!
I hate ebay and everything to do with it, as their customer service and policies are unbelievable
Hope you get it sorted,.....
BTW: Have you googled this other Juan Mattos email addy? maybe there's a slim chance he's not seen the money or checked his PP? I did a search and found the following;
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1259&bih=596&q=juanmattos@gmail.com&rlz=1R2ADFA_enGB379&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=
http://judelover2015.blogspot.com/2011/05/juanmatosgmailcom.html
and
http://www.inacap.cl/tportalvp/tp_modulos/tpm_blog/tpm_comentario.php?b=481
He posts halfway down the page... seems he is in Dominican Republic, and from other info he sounds legit? Maybe he just hasn't seen this payment?
his post translates as;
Juan Matos Ant
18-08-2009 - juanmatos@gmail.com
Greetings, I am CCNA instructor in Dominican Republic, would furnish me information on the costs and timetable for the CCNA course instructor securiy. Thank you very much!
keep chasing the money dude! don't give up
Matt
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Hi Matt (mokeybiscuits) mate, thanks for that....very interesting.
I did google his name but did'nt have much time to spend on investigating it. I was gonna try getting intouch with gmail and see if there was anyway they could contact him to let him know what had happened :-\. Its just such a shame that paypal themselves could'nt of sent him an email aswell to back mine up with a bit of heavywieght clout, if you know what im saying. I will continue to chase it up but i'm not holding my breath after the discustions i've had. My new rule of thumb is only send a "gift" payment to someone who you really believe you can trust and always highlight the paypal address sent from the seller, that way its there fault if they spelt or wrote it wrong. In my case I looked at Juans address at a glance and assumed it was just juanmattos, not juanrmattos :-[. It really is my own fault.
I'll keep on trying and many thanks for looking into it for me...nice one :daumenhoch:
Si.
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Si, i have done exactley the same thing twice mate, just missed out 1 letter but i realised my mistake within about 5 minutes there was a button to cancel the transaction which i did. I then sent the money to the right address and got refunded the original one about 2 days later. Go into your Paypal accounmt and see if you can just click 'cancel transaction' or 'cancel payment' somewhere.
Adam
There is a cancel button that can be used but thats is only shown if the funds hav'nt reached the address you have sent it to. I checked withing 10 minutes and it was'nt there, and once its hit THATS IT!!!! Sounds like you have had a very narrow escape Adam......beware pal, I know you buy some pricey parts ??? If it was sent as a puchace or another option where you pay a fee this thread would'nt exist as they can get the money back no problem.
One way of sorting all this out would be just to add the fee to the asking price of our parts and say send it as a purchace please, then we are all safe ???
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Hi Matt (mokeybiscuits) mate, thanks for that....very interesting.
I did google his name but did'nt have much time to spend on investigating it. I was gonna try getting intouch with gmail and see if there was anyway they could contact him to let him know what had happened :-\. Its just such a shame that paypal themselves could'nt of sent him an email aswell to back mine up with a bit of heavywieght clout, if you know what im saying. I will continue to chase it up but i'm not holding my breath after the discustions i've had. My new rule of thumb is only send a "gift" payment to someone who you really believe you can trust and always highlight the paypal address sent from the seller, that way its there fault if they spelt or wrote it wrong. In my case I looked at Juans address at a glance and assumed it was just juanmattos, not juanrmattos :-[. It really is my own fault.
I'll keep on trying and many thanks for looking into it for me...nice one :daumenhoch:
Si.
no probs Si, :daumenhoch:
I didn't spot the 'r' either, so don't beat yourself up too much mate,
I've only had a quick look, but seems like this other Juan is a genuine fella,....?
good luck
Matt
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Done it myself before send to the wrong addres ,, spelling typo , but fortunately not gift
I always copy and paste the link now so it's exactly as it was sent to me ;)
, even the sender can type it you wrong by mistake ,, though , but that's not your fault ,, so keep the pm/proof , till funds clear ;)
I think gift is still a good thing and happy to do it still for those who I have done many deals with and trust
You've gotta remember ,,there's no safety net though ,,no fee , no service .
This is just a real unfortunate mistake typing , feel sorry for you Simon :'( :'( :'(
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Si, the situation is shite :-\ but Juan is a good guy its just been an unfortunate mistake. God willing the other "juan mattos" has the decentency to check their account and refund you back the cash, keep emailing them! :daumenhoch:
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just tell him you are with the south american cartel and that you want our money back >:D
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the problem is that paypal sucks. if you don't use them, you won't have a problem.
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nightmare,paypal are tossers! i had a similar thing happen to me even without paying as gift option....paypal did fook all.in the end i managed to get at the guy in the states by guessing his facebook profile and emailed all his friends & family telling em what he'd done.....2 days later....refunded.but paypal rearly don't do enough to help at all.if its not an ebay transaction...they don't wanna know.
anyway si,hope it somehow works out for you mate :daumenhoch: