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Title: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: punkdSICO on June 03, 2011, 11:44 PM
Hi all

I just got a sexy Redline Twinpinch crank off a Rad member (will arrice next week sometime).  I just noticed that ebay seems to have quite a few listed as New??  What is the era of these cranks?  I thought they were old school but if so, how come ebay.com has so may 'new' ones?

Whatever the deal is, I still think they are sexy and more importanty, they remind me of my youth so looking forward to getting the little fella..

ta,

Paul
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: kuwahero on June 03, 2011, 11:48 PM
Old school flights were single pinch

New school flights are twin pinch
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: punkdSICO on June 04, 2011, 12:03 AM
Old school flights were single pinch
New school flights are twin pinch
Cool..  I had to google what single/twin pinch meant  :-[ (one or two clamping bolts).  So, when did the switch happen?  Other than the bolts, they look pretty identical to me..

thanks for the info..

Paul
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: kuwahero on June 04, 2011, 12:06 AM
Everything you should ever need to know :daumenhoch:

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=26518.0 (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=26518.0)
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: brettypeeps on June 04, 2011, 12:08 AM
A set of nice redline 401s single pinch will set you back £250 +++

(http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y370/brettypeeps/Haro%20Master/Flights.jpg)

where as a set of twin pinch cranks have been about for a while and the hardware and decals dictate the age

Generally from £75 for a used set £85 for a show mounted and about £100 for a new set

The set that Lee sold the other day are my set that I had on my Streetbeat that never turned a wheel and other than the marks from moving the bearings are perfect and a good Buy for £85 Posted IMO they are the current model complete with a Redline US bottom bracket.

(http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y370/brettypeeps/StreetBeat/Photo0167.jpg)

The swap to Twin was late 90's but not sure of the year


Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: punkdSICO on June 04, 2011, 12:20 AM
Thanks for the info, guys..

This is where my appreciation for 'old school' gets confused..  These cranks are almost identical but, depending on how many bolts they have, decides if we pay £80 for £250+..

Maybe I will get more anal about this as I get more into it, but in the meantime I am happy with a £80 redline crank that looks like the crank I loved as a kid..  Its going to look HOT on my Aero Reflex build..

Interesting stuff..

thanks,

Paul
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: brettypeeps on June 04, 2011, 12:28 AM
Twin pincher's are better as well they don't come lose  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: oldtired on June 04, 2011, 01:42 AM
asside from the twin bolts , new ones have a more square profile so you can spot em straight away , but for what they cost you can't go wrong ,great for a rider,  and a lot easier on the wallet, still one of the better cranks out there, light and strong  :daumenhoch:    at least you don't have to worry about the half wrap or full wrap dilemma  :LolLolLolLol:  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: punkdSICO on June 04, 2011, 10:09 AM
asside from the twin bolts , new ones have a more square profile so you can spot em straight away , but for what they cost you can't go wrong ,great for a rider,  and a lot easier on the wallet, still one of the better cranks out there, light and strong  :daumenhoch:    at least you don't have to worry about the half wrap or full wrap dilemma  :LolLolLolLol:  :uglystupid2:
Cool.  Im putting them on one of those new/never assembled Aero Reflex frames.  Going to be all chrome, shiny shiny!!  And yes, it will be a rider..

What is half/full wrap?

Off to frickin Bluewater  >:(

Paul
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: stidds on June 04, 2011, 01:50 PM
Nothing wrong with twin pinch Redline cranks at all.  They are really good cranks and look good on old and new school bmx's.

The only time they are wrong is when they are on bikes that enter show and shine competitions.  Then you seem to get people moaning that they didn't get any recognition or get prizes but they are running twin pinch Redlines.

However it is 100% your bike, so do exactly as you want with it.
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: Betty on June 04, 2011, 02:04 PM
2 of the mid school show n shine winners at MK10 had twin pinch flights on...  ???

Incorrect even on a mid build... 2002 onwards for the current twin pinch flights

One of my pet hates is seeing em described as NOS on the parts breakdown of a bike....  they're not old!....  :tickedoff:

Rant over...  :D
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: HARORIDER on June 04, 2011, 02:27 PM
you can get a brand new set including whatever bottom bracket set you need from the states for about £75 including postage and he will send as gift AND if you ask him he will knock the value down so it slips through customs  :daumenhoch:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Redline-Flight-Cranks-Chrome-180mm-w-Bearings-/190495750075?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item7216fc4861
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: stidds on June 04, 2011, 02:48 PM
2 of the mid school show n shine winners at MK10 had twin pinch flights on...  ???



I wasn't at MK10, but I would imagine the judges were either p*ssed or twats (or both).  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: punkdSICO on June 04, 2011, 03:18 PM
you can get a brand new set including whatever bottom bracket set you need from the states for about £75 including postage and he will send as gift AND if you ask him he will knock the value down so it slips through customs  :daumenhoch:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Redline-Flight-Cranks-Chrome-180mm-w-Bearings-/190495750075?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item7216fc4861
Thats a great price.  Im paying 80squid for mine but, hey ho..

btw: what is with all the bottom bracket choices??  Mine is coming with a US bottom bracket.  Does this mean it is not going to fit either my Aero Reflex (likely choice) or DP Firebird Freestyler (unlikely choice)??

Fingers crossed  ???

Paul
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: 58 delray on June 04, 2011, 03:20 PM
you can get a brand new set including whatever bottom bracket set you need from the states for about £75 including postage and he will send as gift AND if you ask him he will knock the value down so it slips through customs  :daumenhoch:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Redline-Flight-Cranks-Chrome-180mm-w-Bearings-/190495750075?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item7216fc4861
Thats a great price.  Im paying 80squid for mine but, hey ho..

btw: what is with all the bottom bracket choices??  Mine is coming with a US bottom bracket.  Does this mean it is not going to fit either my Aero Reflex (likely choice) or DP Firebird Freestyler (unlikely choice)??

Fingers crossed  ???

Paul
they will fit  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: punkdSICO on June 04, 2011, 03:22 PM
they will fit  :daumenhoch:
I Love you...   :D

So, what is the difference?  That ebay ad has the choice of:

19mm American Sealed Bearings
19mm Spanish Sealed Bearings
19mm MID Sealed Bearings
OR
19mm Euro Sealed Bearings

??

Paul
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: 1mancity2 on June 04, 2011, 07:55 PM
When your cranks come there will be a Blue anodized tube that may require cutting down for your bearings to sit correctly into the frame, think the bearings and spacer uncut is 68mm measure your bb to see if they will need fettling  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: pickle on June 05, 2011, 08:09 AM
2 of the mid school show n shine winners at MK10 had twin pinch flights on...  ???

Incorrect even on a mid build... 2002 onwards for the current twin pinch flights

One of my pet hates is seeing em described as NOS on the parts breakdown of a bike....  they're not old!....  :tickedoff:

Rant over...  :D

well it wasn't mine!  mine had GT Profiles on  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: GTnumber1 on June 05, 2011, 01:24 PM
2 of the mid school show n shine winners at MK10 had twin pinch flights on...  ???



I wasn't at MK10, but I would imagine the judges were either p*ssed or twats (or both).  :LolLolLolLol:

 you should be doing bike of the month   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: adenough on June 05, 2011, 04:15 PM
i got £410 for a set of 401's, was offered £275, thought that was a good price, but im my opinion still very expensive just to look at! P.S.  want a haro sport torker built!! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: HARORIDER on June 05, 2011, 04:22 PM
they will fit  :daumenhoch:
I Love you...   :D

So, what is the difference?  That ebay ad has the choice of:

19mm American Sealed Bearings
19mm Spanish Sealed Bearings
19mm MID Sealed Bearings
OR
19mm Euro Sealed Bearings

??

Paul
american for most old school frames
mid is basically the bearings out of the american bottom bracket cups
euro the bearing cups are threaded
spanish is basically mid with the bearing size reduced to make it a bit lighter
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: punkdSICO on June 05, 2011, 04:50 PM
american for most old school frames
mid is basically the bearings out of the american bottom bracket cups
euro the bearing cups are threaded
spanish is basically mid with the bearing size reduced to make it a bit lighter
Hey, thanks for that.  Looks like I need US then (I only have old school frames..).

thanks again,

Paul
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: 1mancity2 on June 05, 2011, 07:22 PM
JT Smooth may have some
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: punkdSICO on June 05, 2011, 07:29 PM
JT Smooth may have some
Sorry for the confusion - the one I have coming does have a US bb so, I should be good..

ta,

Paul
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: 58 delray on June 05, 2011, 07:33 PM
take care when fitting the bb as you have to get the centre tube spacer the right size, too big and your bearing won't fit flush in the frame, too small and your bearings will be too tight and could even collapse inwards
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: Dannywhac on June 05, 2011, 09:22 PM
And don't forget if your spacers the correct length then there sould be a 1mm space from the bearing cup to the BB when you've installed the BB. The Profile install instr. are a good guide (BB dependant obv.):

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=209023
Title: Re: Redline Twinpinch Cranks - whats the score?
Post by: energiza on June 08, 2011, 02:50 PM
ez mate have they arrived to u yet
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