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Title: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: lammychop on July 27, 2011, 04:34 PM
my boy has a mongoose mischief entry level bike its 6months old he wants to replace the opc with a 3 piece what bottom bracket do i need
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: mattuknc on July 27, 2011, 04:46 PM
Any USA style sealed setup should fit it. Depending on the cranks axel size either 19mm or 22mm (19 is most common).  :daumenhoch:
(or you can get a USA to Euro converter and get a Euro bb set, but I didn't want to complicate things.  :))
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: kev-s on July 27, 2011, 04:48 PM
according to custom riders it has a mid bottom bracket

http://www.customriders.com/prodshow.asp?prodid=12302&cat=57&parent=1010&sid=3

basicly a mid bottom bracket is like a normal usa bb but u dont use the cups so you fit the bearings straight into the frame :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: lammychop on July 27, 2011, 04:49 PM
so the frame holes are all the same its just the spindals that are diferent is that right
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: lammychop on July 27, 2011, 04:51 PM
the bike in the link is a newer version with a 3 piece on it allready his has only got the one piece
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: kev-s on July 27, 2011, 04:52 PM
no the "frame hole" i.e frame's bottom bracket shell is the same size as a american bottom bracket sealed bearing without the cup, so just the bearing pushes into the frame with no cup

even the 2009 model uses a mid bottom bracket

the bike in the link has a 1 piece cranks



    * Frame: Mongoose Freestyle BMX Frame
    * Fork: Mongoose BMX fork
    * Handlebars: 2pc BMX Design
    * Front Hub: Mongoose 14mm
    * Rear Hub: Mongoose Freewheel Hub 13T
    * Rims: Alex 36H Front 48H Rear Rims
    * Brakes: U Brake with Gyro Cable Detangler
    * Tires: Mongoose designed tyres
    * Pedals : Platform
    * Cranks: 1pc 175mm Tubular crank
    * Sprocket: 36T
    * Mid Sealed Bottom Bracket
    * Saddle: Mongoose shorty padded saddle
    * Seat Post: Steel
    * Grips: Mongoose OG Grip
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: oldtired on July 27, 2011, 04:57 PM
didn't know you could fit a 1 piece in a mid bb  :LolLolLolLol:  learn something  new every day, ,, it says a tubular 1piece too which suggests its hollow? bit confusing that i think , unlikely to be hollow but, if so then its going to be lighter than a 3pc  although not as strong  
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: Spen69 on July 27, 2011, 05:00 PM
Yeah, but if it currently has a opc then it's an older frame with a US BB. I had one and gave it to Jaymz for his nephew when we had a whip-round and it had a US BB on it.

You need to know what crank you intend to put on it and send a pic and we can tell you what BB to get. Send a pic of the bike to so we can be sure.
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: lammychop on July 27, 2011, 05:00 PM
ok bit confused  it doesnt take much
this is the crank im trying to fit
could someone give me a link to a bb that will work with it

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280714197572&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: kev-s on July 27, 2011, 05:06 PM
opc cranks can be fitted to mid bottom brackets, best to put up a pic of the frame's bb just to be sure

jawbone cranks use a 19mm axle so u need a 19mm bottom bracket and your frame uses a mid bottom bracket according to custom riders website

so u need this 19mm bottom bracket

http://www.customriders.com/prodshow.asp?prodid=14051&cat=8&parent=1001&sid=3
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: lammychop on July 27, 2011, 05:09 PM
ok here the currant bb

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ee91/lammychop/crank.jpg)
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: oldtired on July 27, 2011, 05:12 PM
ok bit confused  it doesnt take much
this is the crank im trying to fit
could someone give me a link to a bb that will work with it

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280714197572&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


Bargain   :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: oldtired on July 27, 2011, 05:13 PM
that one is a us bb
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: kev-s on July 27, 2011, 05:13 PM
right that is a american bottom bracket, so the bike prob isnt 6 months old, maybe a couple of years

so u need this bottom bracket

http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/product/21594/Profile_American_Standard_Cup__Bearing_Set
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: lammychop on July 27, 2011, 05:15 PM
right that is a american bottom bracket, so the bike prob isnt 6 months old, maybe a couple of years

so u need this bottom bracket

http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/product/21594/Profile_American_Standard_Cup__Bearing_Set

was defo new last christmas
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: lammychop on July 27, 2011, 05:18 PM
so i need a 19mm american bb is that correct
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: kev-s on July 27, 2011, 05:19 PM
strange that custom riders and a couple other sites show that the 2009 & 2011 has a mid bottom bracket in the spec list

maybe its a mistake by mongoose, when they released the spec list and it was ment to say american bottom bracket not mid bottom bracket

oh well your all sorted now :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: kev-s on July 27, 2011, 05:20 PM
yes u need a 19mm american bottom bracket for those cranks :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: lammychop on July 27, 2011, 05:21 PM
many thanks
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: oldtired on July 27, 2011, 05:29 PM
right thats old Lammychop's problem sorted, always get there in the end ,  :LolLolLolLol: ,    but  how do you fit a 1pc in mid bb ?
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: kev-s on July 27, 2011, 05:39 PM
google tells me u cant due to the bottom bracket shell being too small to feed the 1 peice crank arm through

teach me not to believe everything i read  :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: hunterdubber on July 27, 2011, 05:42 PM
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/winnit93/saleitems022.jpg)


Just a pic here's the mid bearings and the US sized (hop up kit) cups  they fit in :)
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: Spen69 on July 27, 2011, 07:42 PM
19mm axle to US BB size in a sealed unit - here's a well kept secret for you bud at £13.99 plus £1.99 postage and it's even black to match the frame and crank :daumenhoch:

It's EXACTLY the same as a Redline Flight one but badged as Diamond Back, even down to the part numbers, so why pay over twice that price :shocked:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/bmx-bike-diamondback-sealed-bearing-bottom-bracket-bmx-/280701109987?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item415b1706e3

Bought half a dozen off this guy over the last few years and he's superfast delivery and spot on :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: lammychop on July 27, 2011, 09:32 PM
nice one spen just bought one
Title: Re: im lost past 1983 new school bottom bracket question
Post by: Spen69 on July 27, 2011, 09:48 PM
nice one spen just bought one

You're welcome bud :daumenhoch:
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