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Title: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2 [updated pics]
Post by: Tachikoma on September 02, 2011, 02:42 PM
Well, as those of you who were at radchester last weekend will probably note, my current "newschool" ride is actually a not-so-new 2004 WeThePeople in orange with heavy assed Alex Supra E rims in black, absolutely solid bike but it's as heavy as a brick shithouse!

Over the past few months i've been building a new bike, but because of my anal attention to color requirements, it's taken (and cost) way more than i originally planned.

Here's some in-progress shots for you lads.

(http://i.imgur.com/G6B5I.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/p7JQR.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/YFUiN.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LpE0F.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/T5aUs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fZiER.jpg)


Bars - Macneil Silencer XLT
Frame : Subrosa Pandora DTT v2
Forks : Odyssey Director CS2
Rims : Odyssey 7KA (Polished blue)
Tyres : Animal TWWR Whitewall (Odyssey paths in the pic)
Stem : Odyssey Elementary v3 (Orange Soda)
Headset : Odyssey ?
Seatpost : Federal slammed
Seat : Macneil Pivotal
Rear break : Xposure U brake (will switch it out for an Odyssey Evo II eventually)
Brake lever : Odyssey Mono Short
Grips : Odi Longnecks
Brake cable : Vocal
Brake arch (rear) : Odyssey ?
Pedals : Snafu (don't know the model, theyre orange, will switch out for Fly Rubens at a later date if they don't hold up)
Crank : Primo Hollowbite (Metalic blue)

[UPDATE] Added final build shots
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: dubber on September 02, 2011, 03:46 PM
cant wait to see the finished ride mate... :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: Clean on September 02, 2011, 04:43 PM
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Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: theRuler on September 02, 2011, 04:51 PM
Thats fooking lovely.

I hope the Oddy stem is better than mine (mine is a V1 I think)
Mine is a creaky piece of shit that constantly needs retightening.  I don't like the way it flexes either!

That frame is super nice.
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: john4130 on September 02, 2011, 05:17 PM
I hope the Oddy stem is better than mine (mine is a V1 I think)
Mine is a creaky piece of shit that constantly needs retightening.  I don't like the way it flexes either!
i have 2 of those odyssey stems, a v1 and the v2 and never had a problem with it creaking or coming loose. are youa large fellow. ::)
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: theRuler on September 02, 2011, 05:23 PM
i have 2 of those odyssey stems, a v1 and the v2 and never had a problem with it creaking or coming loose. are youa large fellow. ::)

I have a liking for pie.
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: Biggeorge on September 02, 2011, 06:05 PM
Thats a lovely looking ride, can't wait to see the finished bike. I didnt have any trouble with the odyssey stem (v1) either, I too know the taste of flaky pastry! I think some peeps greased the wedges lightly.
Hope you dont have the trouble i had with the stupid cable stop system for the rear brake, but with a few nights work and chatting with StevieD on here, got it sorted, not before the daft 2mm bolt holding the stop had pulled right out of the frame!
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: pickle on September 02, 2011, 06:41 PM
Looking well nice is that  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: mattuknc on September 02, 2011, 07:32 PM
Love these bikes, have one myself.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: madmike-bmx on September 04, 2011, 07:33 PM
gimme the hubs!!!!!!!! please :)
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: ron burgundy on September 04, 2011, 08:50 PM
Those hubs are lush :smitten:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: GTnumber1 on September 05, 2011, 02:58 PM
damm i want one of these frames  :smitten:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: gobshite on September 05, 2011, 09:58 PM
you could have an actual bmx frame for the price of one of those.......
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: lk_97 on September 06, 2011, 05:26 PM
you could have an actual bmx frame for the price of one of those.......

For one of what ???
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: GTnumber1 on September 06, 2011, 05:51 PM
i need one of these frames :(
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: gobshite on September 06, 2011, 09:56 PM
you could have an actual bmx frame for the price of one of those.......

For one of what ???

for one of those frames.....
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: TwoBobRob on September 06, 2011, 10:12 PM
 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:


Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: Tachikoma on September 15, 2011, 10:49 PM
not QUITE finished, but close enough.

(http://i.imgur.com/W94wb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XcGrp.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/0vaHq.jpg)
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: brettypeeps on September 15, 2011, 10:57 PM
Sweet :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: HARORIDER on September 15, 2011, 11:08 PM
what is that chain  :-\
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: Tachikoma on September 15, 2011, 11:25 PM
what is that chain  :-\
DK Exo
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: gobshite on September 15, 2011, 11:30 PM
nice parts,



shame about the frame :-\
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: oldschoolace on September 16, 2011, 08:36 PM
nice parts,



shame about the frame :-\

 :idiot2:

Sweet build comin on there!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: lk_97 on September 17, 2011, 05:50 PM
you could have an actual bmx frame for the price of one of those.......

For one of what ???

for one of those frames.....

 ;D whats wrong with them?
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: gobshite on September 19, 2011, 08:23 PM
you could have an actual bmx frame for the price of one of those.......

For one of what ???

for one of those frames.....

 ;D whats wrong with them?


its got two top tubes.
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: Dark Diggler on September 19, 2011, 09:27 PM
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ee170/BRANDYBABE01/spangles.jpg)
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: theRuler on September 20, 2011, 10:14 AM
its got two top tubes.

What's wrong with having 2 top tubes?
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: oldschoolace on September 20, 2011, 01:05 PM
Two is always better than one  ;)
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: gobshite on September 20, 2011, 02:17 PM
its got two top tubes.

What's wrong with having 2 top tubes?


its pointless.

Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: oldschoolace on September 20, 2011, 04:12 PM
its got two top tubes.

What's wrong with having 2 top tubes?


its pointless.



If all the "pointless" things in the world were never created it would be a sad and boring world indeed!  :(
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: gobshite on September 20, 2011, 04:40 PM
come on admit it, you only chose that frame because it has two top tubes, you dont give a fook who made it or how it rides,

if i put two top tubes on a pigs backside you fookers would start forming a que for one,



the days of the double top tube are over, i'm sorry but its just the way things are, there are a 100's of better made,better looking,better riding frames out there on the market,

get yourself some dignity and buy an s&m/fbm/standard/T1/wtp/cult/etc/etc/


do you even know who ryan fooking sher is?
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: Jt on September 20, 2011, 04:48 PM
no need for that kind of response really.

your like the big vern of bmx FFS

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ae192/Tayne500/bigvern2.jpg)
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: brass monkey! on September 20, 2011, 05:11 PM
its got two top tubes.

What's wrong with having 2 top tubes?


its pointless.




yeah, like your 'POSTS'   ::)

I like it !! You can't beat a Twin Toptube, just ask Bob  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: Jt on September 20, 2011, 05:15 PM
cant beat twin tubes....

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k219/Lovesick146/3.jpg)

Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: oldschoolace on September 20, 2011, 05:20 PM
 ;D

My thinking exactly when i said two is always better than one. Great minds and all that  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: Tachikoma on September 20, 2011, 06:27 PM
come on admit it, you only chose that frame because it has two top tubes, you dont give a fook who made it or how it rides,

if i put two top tubes on a pigs backside you fookers would start forming a que for one,

the days of the double top tube are over, i'm sorry but its just the way things are, there are a 100's of better made,better looking,better riding frames out there on the market,

get yourself some dignity and buy an s&m/fbm/standard/T1/wtp/cult/etc/etc/

do you even know who ryan fooking sher is?

Ease up fella, and do yourself a favor by having the intelligence not to simply assume.
My choice in frame was made based on a very long list of things, geometry, height, weight, component adaptability (removable brake bosses), build quality and compatibility with my personal tastes and riding style.
I quite like the option of being able to framestand should I randomly want to do some more classic bmx tricks, and a double toptube makes that much easier.

If when buying a bike you *HAVE* to go for something better made, better looking and better riding , then every tom dick and abdul would be rolling around on the exact same bike, and that just sounds dumb, it's not far of being that way as it is with every single kid striving to have nothing but the color black on their bike.
I fail to see how going with a tried and tested pandora frame has anything to do with a "lack of dignity", especially when you ream off brands that make frames that really arent all that special either.

So what if they make "lighter" frames, bikes that are too light will feel just as shitty in the air as heavy bikes
So what if they make "better made" frames, i've seen my fair share of these so-called "better made" frames snapped in half
So what if they make "better looking" frames, that's entirely subjective, unless you're claiming your personal taste is universal.

As for knowing who Ryan Sher is, no, i've had my head in the sand like an osterich, i don't know that he is the founder of Subrosa, or that he rode for Kink, i just roll around splashing the cash on frames that have double top tubes for the sake of it hurrdurr  :uglystupid2:

Also, consider this, if i didn't have the first clue about "good" parts, why in the hell would i have gone all out on the rest of the bikes components?, surely some retard that bought a frame purely on looks alone would just throw on some shitty parts and have done?

Anyway to others interested in how it currently looks here you go.

(http://i.imgur.com/G91xi.jpg)

Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: Jt on September 20, 2011, 07:52 PM
Sweet ride.
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: J4CK on September 20, 2011, 07:56 PM
 :4_17_5: :4_17_5: :4_17_5: :4_17_5: :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: Peter J on September 20, 2011, 08:10 PM
Bang tidy  :4_17_5:

Looks very lush  :smitten:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: curtispro on September 20, 2011, 08:36 PM
As I said in the other " twin tube thread" I am liking the look of those twin tube NS bikes ( must be an age thing) looking sweet mate  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: Tachikoma on September 20, 2011, 08:45 PM
Heading down the park tomorrow with oldschoolace, will get some better shots (indoors doesn't do the wheel color justice), will post them up tomorrow evening  ;)

J.T, Hopefully by next radchester this thing wont look like the F**kers long lost brother :D though i have to admit, odd tyres, rust and all, i'd still ride it.
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: gobshite on September 20, 2011, 09:08 PM
come on admit it, you only chose that frame because it has two top tubes, you dont give a fook who made it or how it rides,

if i put two top tubes on a pigs backside you fookers would start forming a que for one,

the days of the double top tube are over, i'm sorry but its just the way things are, there are a 100's of better made,better looking,better riding frames out there on the market,

get yourself some dignity and buy an s&m/fbm/standard/T1/wtp/cult/etc/etc/

do you even know who ryan fooking sher is?

, then every tom dick and abdul would be rolling around on the exact same bike,

 unless you're claiming your personal taste is universal.


Also, consider this, if i didn't have the first clue about "good" parts, why in the hell would i have gone all out on the rest of the bikes components?, surely some retard that bought a frame purely on looks alone would just throw on some shitty parts and have done?



tom dick and abdul........i liked that bit....:LolLolLolLol:


i am claiming that ,yes, show me a double top tube s&m or standard in their current line up?  or fit? fly? kink? united?

and its not really that i dont like the double top tube design, it just feels like its got no boll0cks, it wants to be "old school" looking but then fooks it up completely be masquerading as a new school frame,

strip off the stckers and put on some haro master stickers on it and i'd love it tbh, better still chrome it and put some gen1 freestyler stickers on and i'll let jt bum you dry...

the "good" parts bit is subjective, it does look a bit lbs tbh, wheels are sweet though, stem doesnt work, forks are beyond vile, with so much odyssey love why no twombolts?

aside from all that though, post up a pic of you doing a framestand and all will be forgiven :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on September 20, 2011, 09:24 PM
 :) I quite like it.Just glad you didn`t hack the brake lugs off,put Tuffs on it then moan that it won`t stop,ask about fitting a 1"threaded fork etc.... :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: Tachikoma on September 20, 2011, 09:42 PM
come on admit it, you only chose that frame because it has two top tubes, you dont give a fook who made it or how it rides,

if i put two top tubes on a pigs backside you fookers would start forming a que for one,

the days of the double top tube are over, i'm sorry but its just the way things are, there are a 100's of better made,better looking,better riding frames out there on the market,

get yourself some dignity and buy an s&m/fbm/standard/T1/wtp/cult/etc/etc/

do you even know who ryan fooking sher is?

, then every tom dick and abdul would be rolling around on the exact same bike,

 unless you're claiming your personal taste is universal.


Also, consider this, if i didn't have the first clue about "good" parts, why in the hell would i have gone all out on the rest of the bikes components?, surely some retard that bought a frame purely on looks alone would just throw on some shitty parts and have done?



tom dick and abdul........i liked that bit....:LolLolLolLol:


i am claiming that ,yes, show me a double top tube s&m or standard in their current line up?  or fit? fly? kink? united?

and its not really that i dont like the double top tube design, it just feels like its got no boll0cks, it wants to be "old school" looking but then fooks it up completely be masquerading as a new school frame,

strip off the stckers and put on some haro master stickers on it and i'd love it tbh, better still chrome it and put some gen1 freestyler stickers on and i'll let jt bum you dry...

the "good" parts bit is subjective, it does look a bit lbs tbh, wheels are sweet though, stem doesnt work, forks are beyond vile, with so much odyssey love why no twombolts?

aside from all that though, post up a pic of you doing a framestand and all will be forgiven :LolLolLolLol:

Tell you what, get one of the lads attending radchester next year to take some pics, i'm sure one of them got a vid of me doing a double footjam whip this year.
Just because other manufacturers haven't released a double toptube frame doesn't mean that it's a bad design or that your idea of style is universal, it just means that they're sticking to the norm because most current riders are set in their ways, subrosa took a risk with the DTT and released it along side the standard pandora, and personally i prefer the DTT.
I guess how quickly the DTT sold out for both the v1 and v2 model doesn't say much for peoples opinion of the styling - let me guess, just a bunch of old fookers wanting something oldschool looking right?, to each their own, if you wanna run a frame like looks damn near exactly like every other frame abeit slightly different geometrys, then by all means do so.

If i was going to put haro master stickers on any bike, it would be a haro master, i'm not a fan of dressing up a bike to make it look like something it's not, seeing shitty bubblegum welded bikes done up to look like kuwaharas has never seemed worth it to me, so the subrosa's going to stay stock.

Oh, and if you can point me to a LBS that sells bikes running gsport hubs on 7ka's, feel free to point me in their direction.

As for the forks that's a matter of functionality, directors offer near perfect clearance for grinds, which i do plenty of. Stem works fine if you know how to use tools properly, most retards complaining about slippage on elementary v3's do so because they either undertighten or overtighten and oval out the tubing.
As for hollowbites instead of twombolts, i'm not a fan of twombolts, i had considered a set of thunderbolts but decided against it last minute.
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: Jaymz on September 20, 2011, 09:49 PM
You have done  a sweet job of that fella, i love a quick burn on that, looks hungry for some abuse
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: curtispro on September 21, 2011, 09:52 AM
You have done  a sweet job of that fella, i love a quick burn on that, looks hungry for some abuse

You on about the bike or the two birds Jaymz  ;D
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: pickle on September 21, 2011, 10:09 AM
I've seen Ray900tap riding his and he's fooking rad as fook!   :daumenhoch:

Nice ride by the way  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: SaMAlex on September 21, 2011, 10:29 AM
I've seen Ray900tap riding his and he's fooking rad as fook! 


Indeed he is. And Rays reasons for liking a DDT frame:

"I love the double tt, to me, it states 'freestyle' as I got hooked on Bmx from Saturday morning tv in the 80's.. Race frames single, freestyle double, that IS the only reason I like them, & want to ride dtt.."


Not a valid vimeo URL

Ray doesnt really ride like anyone else. So rad!
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: pickle on September 21, 2011, 02:37 PM
damn straight!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: dubber on September 21, 2011, 04:45 PM
thats cracking, ignore the tw@t knocking it mate... :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monsterous Subrosa DTT v2
Post by: oldschoolace on September 21, 2011, 07:28 PM
Guys, this thing is sweet in the flesh, defo top of my wish list now.
Let Tachikoma down a bit on the park front, got caught up in work. Fopefully get a few nice pics ( and a quick go on it ) tommrrow  :daumenhoch:
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