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Title: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Nana on September 07, 2011, 12:33 PM
needed a gyro kit for my bike i ordered a snafu mofeus detangler thing from the states (£18 shipped) as no one had one in the uk....but i still needed cables and gyro tabs as i have newish bike with hidden headset and them little holes on the head tube

anyways i was going to go the usual odyssey route and buy tabs seperately but seen the vocal kit (£15) with tabs included....so bought that.....gets it in yesterday and i have to say it looks much better than the odyssey ok gyro etc look the same but cable and there adjusters are much better quality ....... only thing i would say is it fits my 21" tt frame just right but if my rear brake was mounted on the lower chainstay section i would need an extra peice of outer cable.....thats me only gripe with it.

Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awsome i like it
Post by: Tachikoma on September 07, 2011, 06:28 PM
Nice, i may look in to it, i'm running a straight cable to the rear at the moment, but i'd like to go gyro in the near future

Hows the mobeus?, i was going to go with the odyssey gtr
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awsome i like it
Post by: Nana on September 07, 2011, 07:06 PM
Nice, i may look in to it, i'm running a straight cable to the rear at the moment, but i'd like to go gyro in the near future

Hows the mobeus?, i was going to go with the odyssey gtr

Havent got it in yet mate only ordered it the other day...........but i have heard they are great........no bearings.....nylon glides or summit lol ........that yank seller had the Gtr too at half the price it is here i think just howller if you want the link ;)

Would put it up but they only had one  :)
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: pickle on September 07, 2011, 07:29 PM
I've been running one of those snafu gyro thingies and they're superb!
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Peter J on September 07, 2011, 07:52 PM
Rob do you use the oddy cables or dual cables ?
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Nana on September 07, 2011, 08:08 PM
I've been running one of those snafu gyro thingies and they're superb!

Must be good then as your just so anal ;D
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: pickle on September 07, 2011, 08:28 PM
 :LolLolLolLol: peter, I run a gyro lower but I've got a diatech tech 77 lever with a mod that allows me to run two separate cables for the upper bit.
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Peter J on September 07, 2011, 08:35 PM
:LolLolLolLol: peter, I run a gyro lower but I've got a diatech tech 77 lever with a mod that allows me to run two separate cables for the upper bit.

Any piccies

I want to get one of these "witch craft" gyro thingy's.................and I've seen some with two cables coming out of the lever and just wondered whats the advantage or is it just a "fashion" thing.......and as I'm soooooooooooooo down with the kids I didnt want to look even more or a twunt  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: pickle on September 07, 2011, 08:44 PM
I think Odyssey do a lever as well that takes the dragonfly double top cable, I've not seen another one of the one I've got..........I'm sure I've got a pic somewhere.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/b339/robertbransby/tech772.jpg)
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: pickle on September 07, 2011, 08:51 PM
These look a bit tidier

http://www.alansbmx.com/product_info.php?products_id=3080
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Peter J on September 07, 2011, 09:01 PM
Is there a mechanical or liner pull advantage to running two cables as appose to the 1 into 2 oddy cables ?
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: gobshite on September 07, 2011, 09:17 PM
its a little smother and allows the springs to return a little easier so you could run less tension, easier to set up and maintain,
no real linear pull advantage though,
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: TwoBobRob on September 07, 2011, 10:06 PM
The problem with the traditional Oddy cables is if they're adjusted wrong they can top out inside the 2 into 1 tube and all the pulling in the world on the lever goes no further than there, and then the cable snaps.

Not  really a problem though if everything's set up properly and the cables are nicely lubed.

I run one of those Oddy Modulevers these days and the cables that run with them are designed a little differently and are a bit sturdier I think.  Same deal though, it's all in the setup.
 
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Nana on September 08, 2011, 08:26 AM
Talking about set up guys is there a best way to angle the back brake pads toeing in or out or just flat as mines squeal like two pigs at the moo..............i suppose they could be them squealing pads i havent looked yet  :)
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: pickle on September 08, 2011, 08:30 AM
pads should always be toe'd inwards from the front of the pad  :daumenhoch:

if they are the clear sticky pads then they'll squeel like shyte whatever you do  ;D
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Nana on September 08, 2011, 08:34 AM
Cheers Rob.................they are mate  ::)
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: pickle on September 08, 2011, 08:44 AM
what rims are you using?  chrome or annoed?
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Nana on September 08, 2011, 11:56 AM
what rims are you using?  chrome or annoed?

They are Black Anno mate..........sorry had to move tv's about as kids were gonna pull the 50" down on themselves so now they have a 32"......
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Peter J on September 08, 2011, 12:18 PM
Anyone used these  :-\

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SNAFU-Dual-Pull-Upper-BMX-Brake-Cable-BLACK-PURPLE-/310341840809?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item4841d0afa9
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: pickle on September 08, 2011, 12:38 PM
not with mine Pete but i'm sure that would work with the oddy M2 lever  :daumenhoch:


although i think they're also designed to be used with a normal lever (although someone else might want to confirm that instead of me)  ;D
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: fugazi on September 08, 2011, 02:56 PM
I don't think the Snafu cable will work with an Odyssey M2, as it's designed for use on the "normal" single cable levers.
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Tachikoma on September 08, 2011, 03:04 PM
I don't think the Snafu cable will work with an Odyssey M2, as it's designed for use on the "normal" single cable levers.
Yeah, just looked in to it, you could do m2 cables to a snafu gyro, but not snafu cables to an m2 lever.
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Biggeorge on September 08, 2011, 04:24 PM
I've used the modulever for years and its the best, I was using an odyssey m2 lever after good old stodge got us cables that fit, I've just put on the snafu dual cable as now you can get longer cables for them, I've also got a tektro fx1 lever that takes normal cables and has daul barrells.
The problem with normal gyro cables is theyre made cheaply, the lump in the splitter sometimes rubs against the side of the splitter causing friction and the cables feel mushy alot of the time. dual cables top and bottom is the only way to go for me.
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: john4130 on September 08, 2011, 08:56 PM
i have the snafu gyro and a gtx gyro, i'd say the snafu one is a good bit smoother and i've been using it for about 5 years with no problems. duel cables are better too top and bottom and the snafu ones work great, altho recently i snapped my top snafu cable(couple of years old) and i got a new oddy cable which is a lot better than their old ones. seems to be a lot smoother than what i remember them and on par with a duel cable.
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Biggeorge on September 19, 2011, 05:17 PM
Pickle sent me some pics of his lever mod, it's really nice but sold out so I thought I'd make one.
Self explanatory really, a modified london mod, odyssey knarps and a bit of rod from b&q cut, drilled and 2 flats ground on it.
Works a treat and does away with the need for special cables.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ee309/biggeorgebike/6c0a9cd6.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ee309/biggeorgebike/9e497121.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ee309/biggeorgebike/c6f600a7.jpg)
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: pickle on September 21, 2011, 10:12 AM
That's a top job George!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Biggeorge on September 21, 2011, 10:24 AM
Cheers fella, thats me prototype, I'm waiting on the parts for the more refined version!
Thanks for all your help on this.
 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Vocal gyro kit......awesome i like it
Post by: Biggeorge on September 26, 2011, 10:32 AM
Heres the latest, not as refined as i'd hoped but several broken drill bits later and its done!

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ee309/biggeorgebike/e3368975.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ee309/biggeorgebike/c872cfa9.jpg)
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